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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo if Romney is forced to withdraw over that felony thing... Who would replace him?
Presumably, his delegates at the RNC get released, which means it's gonna be a convention floor fight, and they'll pick anyone they want.
Who would they pick? Santorum? Perry? Cain? Paul?
This could be fun to watch...
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)flamingdem
(39,321 posts)He wants 2016. Same with Rubio.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)My guess is they would either go with Newt, who is popular with the teabagging crowd, or let the Paulbots take the blame for a blowout loss, thus putting them permanently out of the picture.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Jeb Bush shared his regrets of not running for president in 2012 in a recent interview. "This was probably my time," Bush told CBS News in an interview to air Thursday morning. "There's a window of opportunity, in life, and for all sorts of reasons."
Jeb Bush, The younger brother of President George W. Bush and the son of President George H.W. Bush, added he probably would not have won in 2012: "Although I don't know, given what I believe and how I believe it, I'm not sure I would have been successful as a candidate, either... These are different times than just six years ago, when I last ran, or even longer than that."
Fox News reports:
MIAMI -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has said in an interview that he probably should have run for president in 2012.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Freakin' Kate Bush could run and not get elected because of her name.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)justabob
(3,069 posts)No one is ready for another Bush candidacy.
I don't think there are many people who would want to be any part of this fubar GOP nomination anymore. The Romney campaign has to be one of the worst in history.
wandy
(3,539 posts)The repugs will continue to smear Obama. While this is going on Romney will be dragged through the mud, smeared and on and on untill...........
Late in the game, Jeb Bush will arise, unsullied, as the great champion. Jeb could slaughter a live puppy and eat a bat on the convention floor but it just won't matter.
There won't be a lot of time to say anything about it.
And the champion will have come to the rescue.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)political machine, can steal elections and can raise cash: Bush.
(yuck)
randome
(34,845 posts)The GOP would not be able to get over the prospect of deliberately wasting precious money.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Though if they were just going for a sacrifical lamb, they'd probably pick one that was especially crazy. Bachmann, perhaps?
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)haha, no, they'll pick someone respectable cause they'll want to play it as safe as possible. Hell, maybe even McCain would run again.
randome
(34,845 posts)...and I think the primary season proved there is not, but assume there is. Why would they run someone especially crazy who would disillusion the flock even more than they already are? Why, at this late date, would they pour millions of dollars into a credible candidate who can't win?
If Romney drops out, my bet is still that the GOP will cut their losses and regroup.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)They know Romney is a loser but if they can control congress they'll control Obama
randome
(34,845 posts)Don't you understand? This is like when Rome fell. It wasn't truly realized that the empire was no more until somebody noticed cows grazing on the lawn of the capital.
Sure, they want the Senate and the House and we should do everything we can to prevent that from happening.
But 'strategy'? I see only embers of evidence that this exists in the GOP today.
LiberalFighter
(51,085 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)Palin is probably writing her acceptance speechsalad. . .
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backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)All hail the future!
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)Anyone with the guts to wear a rubber boot on his head in public can certainly stand up to Iran. Or at least to Lichtenstein and San Marino.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)My pony
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)There is nobody home in the GOP cavern.
FSogol
(45,526 posts)Any AG that picked up the case would get hit with allegations of playing politics. Romney won't be charged with any felonies.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Doesn't narrow things down much, now does it?
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)suspended their campaigns as opposed to an actually withdrawing from the race.
Could prove to be interesting.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)librechik
(30,676 posts)they got nobody, so I nominate Rush.
Romney will get a do-over--he won't have to pay for this "gaffe"
Taverner
(55,476 posts)I need a good laugh these days
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)GarroHorus
(1,055 posts)No way he withdraws.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Dalai_1
(1,301 posts)in their handling of romney it is almost as if they planned all along to
nominate someone else ....surely to goodness they do not think
romney could survive the debates with President Obama.
Rambis
(7,774 posts)Jim__
(14,083 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)What are you guys speculating about now?
So, which is it? You guys took too many drugs this morning, or it's just a slow news day?
OK....let me try one. If Romney gets kidnapped by aliens, who will replace him?
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)...who already know the answer to their question, but are instead poo-pooing the idea.
avebury
(10,952 posts)about various things I am not sure what the felony thing is so could someone please explain to this dimwit?
And what are the chances that Romney would actually be held accountable for any felony thing when so many politicians have done so with no consequences (Bush Jr, Cheney, and so on just to name a couple).
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)...99 then he was truly managing it and not at stand off like he said.
He can't take tax benefits from managing something he told the SEC he wasn't managing..
This is no joke...either way he's not going to be doing good...
Igel
(35,356 posts)He said in Federal financial disclosure forms in early 1999 that he had no operational control over Bain. To lie on them is to commit a felony. But if you look back at what Romney declared under oath, it's strange: He limits his involvement in Bain in the way that he's consistently said, but doesn't rule out other kinds of involvement. (Consistent with being listed on Bain SEC filings for a while for some legal reasons, but consistent with his claims for the last 13 years.)
Income's not at issue. I presume he'd have paid the same on investment or "earned" income from Bain, since they'd have been taxed at the same rate and reported to the IRS (if not the latter, than Bain's also on the hook for some serious fines).
The SEC filings, as far as I can tell, also aren't a perjury issue, per se, for Romney. Signed by Nunnelly, if they're false then Nunnelly committed perjury.
What's left is trying to connect the listing of Romney as CEO and managing director to his disclosure form from 1999. He could defend himself by making clear exactly what legal nicety led his name to continue to be listed as CEO if he had no operational involvement in the company; attackers are left with nothing but innuendo, unless they can show that being listed as CEO necessitates his operational involvement. Romney's not said; attackers have dealt with fuzzy generalizations. (Having seen a "CEO" in the position of having no operational involvement in the "company" yet listed on legal forms in that position, I know the fuzzy generalizations don't provide a valid argument. Just a suggestive one.)Bain, while keeping some sort of interest (a continued return on my original
A thought: If he was not operationally involved, and was the only person who could replace himself as CEO, wouldn't replacing himself with somebody else be operational involvement? What would I do in that situation, I wonder. Probably let things slide--the managing directors had authority, I'd guess, to handle pretty much everything, if not a limited power of attorney ceding authority would do the trick. Then I'd try to find a way to sell my investment in investment, perhaps). That might require waiting until my active investments were all liquidated, but would certainly mean I'd wait until somebody came along to buy me out on favorable terms. That might take a week. It might take a decade. And I might not try all that hard.
Details.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)being a felon and getting away with it is a badge of honor in the R party...
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)You seem to think DOJ is on our side.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Someone will be bought off and Jeb will get the nomination. My guess is Santorum will be Jeb's running mate.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Since he hasn't named anyone they have to fall back to Palin.
That seems fair to me.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)I luv caps lock
RZM
(8,556 posts)So it would probably be Santorum.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I have zero doubt that Griftin' Princess Dumbass would descend out of Moose Country like a cloud of locusts. The inbred tealiban dimwits love her and the money people in the party know that they are going to lose this time around anyway, especially if Mittwit implodes. The Pier Six brawl between Princess D, Santorum and the Gingrinch would be more fun to watch than a barrel of half-witted monkeys.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)in the primary. It will give us all far less time to dig up the dirt on them. My guess would be if they lose their nominee over financial scandal, they'd go with someone they consider to be "of great integrity" and likely not someone who necessarily holds the views of the current repuke party. I'm thinking Fred Thompson, Colin Powell, or for a shocker... Wesley Clark who, as I understand it, was a repuke for most of his life until recently.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)He was pretty solidly independent, voting for both Republicans and Democrats.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)will be on to something else Monday. They want Romney to win.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)It opens the door for a TRUE conservative, they say.
Aviation Pro
(12,187 posts)...would be my guess since it emulates the entire clown car of potential replacements.