A Harris County Democratic Party leader's callous act against a dedicated Democrat

[egbertowillies]

Cody Pogue, a devoted Democrat, a team player, an organizer, a former Democratic candidate, and much more, wrote the following post on Facebook that details a callous injustice instantiated by leaders in the Harris County Democratic Party. Cody does not describe it in the stark terms I did. He is too kind to call out this injustice for what it is. I hope those reading his words will ensure that around election time, those who played a part in this injustice are held accountable. I know Cody personally. There is no better Democrat and none that is either a better organizer or advocate.

https://egbertowillies.com/2017/07/22/cody-pogue-hcdp-callous-act/

[lapucelle]

1. Pogue told people to vote for Jill Stein on your radio program.

It happens at about 24:00
https://politicsdoneright.com/tag/cody-pogue/

[egbertowillies]

2. You cannot discount his caveat and the rational behind the statement

which was to send a message that would ultimately foment a necessary change in the party.

[JHan]

5. he undermined the democratic candidate..

it's about causes and outcomes.

Elections are not about conscience, they're about consequences. A conscience vote means absolutely nothing so there's no "rational" involved here, the message is moot in the face of the Trump administration.

[Expecting Rain]

8. Why bring this divisive anti-Democratic Party crap here?

Fuck the Green Party!

You are offering nothing but ruination with this stuff.

[egbertowillies]

10. I agree with your sentiment given Jill Stein rather

bewildering stances lately. I always saw the Green Party as disaffected Democrats that I continue to implore when necessary to vote appropriately for Democrats. I think maintaining a civil relationship is important because it can be useful on the margins.

As far as spreading Cody's story, his is just the tip of the iceberg. My expectation is for us to have the necessary spirited debate in the primaries to get the most progressive candidates and then fight like hell to get the resulting Democrats elected. But we cannot shy away from the democratization of the Democratic Party lest we continue to lose in states and nationally.

[Expecting Rain]

11. You are spreading false narratives

Your so-called "progressives" are anything but progressive.

We need liberal Democrats to win elections. Not fringe Greens and pretend Democrats who abandon the party in times of need.

To heck with this vision of the party.

[Gothmog]

26. Agreed

a vote for Stein was a vote for trump and Putin

[Demsrule86]

18. Fuck that...no debate with God damned Greens who are not progressive

and only aid Republicans. We don't need 'progressive' candidates in red Texas. We need moderates...which I am sure would cause this guy to run sobbing back to the Greens.

[Demsrule86]

13. sorry I can and do...good riddance. He helped Trump. And is not a Democrat if he told people

to vote stein. And be careful...read TOS.

[Gothmog]

25. Supporting Stein is not a way to help the party

He made these comments on your own show and yet you are still defending him

If this "good" democrat had done this while he was a precinct chair, Texas Democratic Party rules provide that he would have to be removed.

[lapucelle]

32. Don't tell me what I can or cannot do.

I utterly discount his message and the rational behind it. Pogue helped put Trump in the White House to foment change? Who gave him that advice? Susan Sarandon?

Democrats ran on the most progressive platform in a generation. One Supreme Court seat was already at stake. For some reason, Pogue recommended that Democrats and unaffiliated voters cast their votes for Stein.

Here is a message from a fellow Democrat: Elections have consequences. People have to learn to live with them, including the mistrust, contempt, and approbation that they may face over over advice to voters concerning the most responsible way to cast their ballots.

[Hortensis]

33. If he's so loyal, does he approve your badmouthing

his precinct's actions and fanning this divisive partisanship and spreading it as far as possible?

Will those who might support him for a position in future still want to, or might others worry that troublemaking could follow him around?

People who REALLY want their party to win do their best to present united fronts. They handle problems quietly and as much as possible privately and don't try to defeat others on their side by broadcasting self-serving accusations to the world to get it to turn on them.

[Gothmog]

36. Don't worry-Harris County Democrats are well organized and this is only one of 800 or so precincts

I have worked with and know the people at the Harris County Democratic Party voter protection operations for long time. The party is well organized and there are over 800 precincts in Harris County

[Gothmog]

37. That message hurt the party

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Do not claim that you are helping democrats when you encourage voters to vote for stein. A vote for stein was a votefor trump

[bettyellen]

3. A team player yet he was backing that useless spoiler Jill Stein? Fuck no.

[ProudLib72]

4. I'm having a difficult time rationalizing the outrage you think I should feel

While I think the run around treatment he got was unfair, I can understand their apprehension at appointing him precinct chair. It seems to me the real injustice was stringing him along and then never admitting their real motive behind appointing someone else. I hate to say it, but I think towing the party line is necessary (especially in a red Texas district).

[Demsrule86]

14. I dislike and distrust Stein supporters in general...he can not be trusted to work for Democrats

in a position of leadership. He could do the exact same thing again in 20. Let him be boots on the ground, man the phones and such until he has proven himself.

[pnwmom]

6. Dedicated Democrats didn't support Jill Stein. He's a phony. No one should be pleading his case here

[George II]

7. Is that a link to a pay site or one asking for money?

[emulatorloo]

28. Too many ads that take forever to load. He will not post content here, just "teasers" to "promote"

his spam laden blog.

[George II]

30. Might be good content, but I'll never find out because I'm not taking the bait.

[Gothmog]

31. I clicked and there was nothing in that article about the stein comments

Luckily someone listened to the pod case to hear this "good" democrat admit to voting for Stein and urging others to vote for Stein. The posted article leaves out this important fact and the fact that these comments were made on the OP's radio show

[Ninsianna]

35. Isn't that supposed to be against the TOS? Including bashing Dems?

Why is this OP still up?

[egbertowillies]

9. I know this guy personally. I know all that he has done for the Democratic

Party in Harris County. He has done more for our Party than those who have denied him the seat that at the time only he was willing to fill. I watched him campaign for Hillary and make the case to many. It is his credibility as an outsider after that gave him the cred to bring many young voters eventually in Harris County to the appropriate vote. And you know what, Harris County overperformed and went almost entirely blue. We worked very hard for the ticket. This young man is the type of person our party must keep and support.

[Expecting Rain]

12. He's on tape on your show telling people to vote Green

I listened to the podcast. Don't be a 5th Columnist.

[Demsrule86]

15. He supported Stein, thus he can not be trusted...he advocated for that spoiling Kremlin

piece of shit...he gets nothing. Good day Sir.

[Demsrule86]

17. What he supported Hillary and Stein? And would we do ...attack Democrats to defend this

POS? Ah no.

[Gothmog]

22. A person who voted for Stein and told others to vote for Stein is not suited to be precinct chair

You do realize that if he accepted the appointment as precinct chair then vote for a third party candidate, he would be breaking party rules and could be removed.

Have you talked to Lillie or the party leadership?

BTW, did you make it to Philadelphia? I do not remember seeing you there. or at the delegation breakfasts.

[GulfCoast66]

34. Benedict Arnold

Did a lot for the revolution at Saratoga.

But Washington planned to have him hanged if captured.

Good guys can go bad.

Give him a few years or decades to see how he shapes up then let Kim back in a leadership position.

[KitSileya]

16. Are you indirectly advocating voting third party?

If you are promoting and defending politicians who advocate voting third party, you get absolutely no support from me. Jill Stein is a fucking traitor, and so are all who tell people to vote for her. It certainly doesn't belong on DU. I don't care how "devoted" to the Democratic party someone is, if they promote Jill Stein they are a traitor.

[sheshe2]

24. Jill Stein

http://americablog.com/2017/07/jill-stein-goes-pro-russia-rant-calls-election-interference-conspiracy-theory.html

[Demsrule86]

19. It is a shame he supported Jill Stein...he seems very good in other ways...read his stuff.

But he will have to build up trust again. You can't campaign for Jill Stein who costs us the election and just ask people to let bygones be bygones.

[kcr]

20. I'll just repeat what others said because it's worth it. He got what he deserved.

I'm sorry, but supporting Jill Stein is that bad. Whatever good he did was undone by that one action. Democrats can't afford to support that.

[Gothmog]

21. I am glad that the Harris County Democratic party vets precinct chairs

I helped train 200+ poll watchers. While I dd the training, the party checked out and verified that each of the poll watchers certified by the party were actual democrats. That is the right way to do things.

Here, the party was correct to check out this person and to reject them

[MineralMan]

23. Pogue? He encouraged voting for Jill Stein.

Screw that!

And I'm not clicking your blog link to read this. Too many ads. It's your content, so you can post it here at full length. DU is not an advertising venue for people's monetized blogs.

[Gothmog]

27. I was wondering about that also

[emulatorloo]

29. You and MM are not the only ones. Only posts "teasers" to spam his ad-laden blog.

MM describes it perfectly: "DU is not an advertising venue for people's monetized blogs."