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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:04 PM Jul 2017

If Trump fires Mueller, Dems need to default on the debt and shut government down in September

Not to mention doing a sit-in on the house and senate floors or whatever else is necessary to prevent any and all business from being done to prevent Trump from setting up a dictatorship. The sit-ins would be especially needed if McConnell ends the legislative filibuster to keep the government open and default from happening. It's our only choice to save America. The demand would be Mueller's reinstatement.

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uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
2. 100% agree on this until KGOP puts Meuller back in charge then fuck em ... really crash the whole
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:11 PM
Jul 2017

... thing and fuck Red Don

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
5. That would be short sighted.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jul 2017

Defaulting on our debt would have major ramifications to the world economy. Trump will end up out of office one way or another. He isn't able to set up a dictatorship. Just like the Republicans who claimed Obama was going to do so or the Democrats who said Bush the younger was going to.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. no. we can do many things but a debt default is absolutely irresponsible and dumb
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jul 2017

in an era where we are trying to establish ourselves as the adults in the room.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
8. republican would do this in a minute. But
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jul 2017

Democrats actually care about the country and the people who live here. Shutting down the government means during the poor and the sick, while merely inconveniencing the assholes who vote republican.

Vinca

(50,314 posts)
9. Why do you think Republicans will raise the debt ceiling?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jul 2017

They're probably looking forward to defaulting on the debt and the Donald never pays his bills anyway so he doesn't care. This would be a wasted effort for Democrats.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
10. "The Dems" Don't Need To Do Anything....
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jul 2017

why rely on someone else to take care of this for you? It's not the only choice to save America. It's time for citizen action. We've become an arm chair democracy-you want someone else to fight the battle for you. These are extraordinary times. They've happened before in our history. They'll happen again. The only way democracy is threatened is if we sit idly by and let it happen-hoping that somebody else will come to our rescue.

peggysue2

(10,843 posts)
11. Defaulting on the Debt? No!
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jul 2017

Defaulting on the debt is a 'cut off your nose to spite your face' move. Bringing the entire economy down, not to mention the global tsunami it would cause is nuts. The Trumpster will bring himself to ruin; no need to ruin ourselves in the process. We want something workable left on the ground once Don the Con has vacated or been removed from the White House.

Sit-ins, protests? I'm all for that. Debt default? Absolutely not.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
12. NO. That would be terrible for the country and a horrible precedent to set.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jul 2017

We want to have another Democratic President someday.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
13. No. The first domino in a shutdown is 800K public workers out of jobs. The next...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jul 2017

...dominoes include gov't assistance checks and domestic violence/children's programs go unfunded. Then there's tourism, military contract obligations, and a ton of other truly horrible stuff. When republicans shut it down 5 years ago, they caused many, many aids patients to have to beg for donations in order to pay for their lifesaving meds.

So, no. Just no.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. The republicans are going to default
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jul 2017

With no help from us.

Unless Ryan shits on the Freedom Cocks and works with Democrats.

They have already started making list of all the regressive bills they will insist on to raise the debt ceiling.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
15. With all due respect, I don't think any of you understand
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:13 PM
Jul 2017

the magnitude of the threat that Trump poses to the Republic and it's existence as a democratic state!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
17. Bullshit. Anarchism will foster a trump dictatorship.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jul 2017

If Trump fires Mueller, someone needs to handcuff Trump because Trump cannot legally fire Mueller.

If Trump tries to get rid of Mueller, everyone needs to get into the streets. There won't be any more Dems and Rs, just Patriots and Putinites.

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