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Laxman

(2,419 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:40 PM Jul 2017

John McCain's Long Journey In Public Life......

has shown us many sides of this man. His military service, his captivity during the Viet Nam War, his time in the senate, two-time failed presidential candidate, one of the Keating Five; Senator McCain has been in the public eye for a long time in many different roles.

You had to know something was very wrong with him during the questioning of Jim Comey last month. Now the pieces fall into place. Its a sad way for his career to end. He could be infuriating. He could be acerbic. Most of the time he was wrong on the issues. His later years of service in the Senate have not been his finest hours. I really think that his losses, first to Bush in the republican primary, then to Obama in the Presidential election made him bitter and resentful. Obviously his political views don't align with us here at DU. However, there were some very laudable things he has done (beyond his military service) that we can acknowledge from the other side.

Take a few minutes to read the linked article from the New Yorker about his relationship with John Kerry. Look at the YouTube clip below. How many republicans can you name that would exhibit any of the character traits or have the public courage that you can glean from the article or the video clip? I'm hard pressed to think of more than one or two. THAT John McCain from 10 or more years ago was a different person from the guy we've come to know from recent years. Ambition to be president and bitterness can both be terrible things.

I'm not here to lionize or praise him-he's not dead yet and I find very few points of agreement with him on policy. He's done some things that were inexplicably bad. However, people are complicated and there's a few things he's done that are important to remember. His making peace with anti-war protestors, his ability to forge relationships with people he disagreed with, his ability to know where to draw the line in conflict-these are things we can all learn from. Even recently his comments about Trump that “ that's how dictators get started” and his alarm at the “hardening resentment we see toward immigrants, and refugees, and minority groups, especially Muslims” set him apart-even if he didn't go far enough or refuse to toe the party line. We can acknowledge these things upon hearing the news of his condition and respect what is worthy of respect. It's what sets us apart from the republicans.

An excerpt from a rather long article in the New Yorker from 1996:

A Friendship That Ended the War

On Memorial Day in 1993, two United States senators were escorted through a prison in downtown Hanoi. It was a massive building, enclosed in a compound and occupying most of a block in the middle of the crowded city. The windows had bars, and some had louvred shutters. The Vietnamese name for the prison was Hoa Lo. The name given it by Americans was the Hanoi Hilton. During the war, the prison held captured fliers, whom the Vietnamese called "air pirates," and on this day one of them had returned, for the first time since his release: John McCain, now a Republican senator from Arizona. As a Navy bomber pilot, he had been held prisoner for nearly six years, from October of 1967, when he was shot down, until March of 1973. Most of that time he had spent at Hoa Lo, more than two years of it in solitary confinement. This past summer, a large television audience heard McCain refer to the experience when he placed Bob Dole's name in nomination at the Republican National Convention. "A long time ago, in another walk of life, I was deprived of my liberty," he said, with the understatement of a man who knows that his imprisonment is what distinguishes him.

When McCain returned to Hoa Lo in 1993, he was accompanied by John Kerry, a Democrat from Massachusetts. Kerry, another Navy war veteran, was the chairman of the by then disbanded Senate Select Committee on P.O.W./M.I.A. Affairs, while McCain was its leading Republican; committee business had brought them back to Vietnam. Recently, Kerry told me about the visit to the prison, describing the walk down a corridor toward McCain's old cell—"at the back end of the right-hand side as we walked in, around the corner. It was just this very small, dark, dank cell, with a little bed area, hardly fit for anybody."



Read the article here: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1996/10/21/a-friendship-that-ended-the-war

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John McCain's Long Journey In Public Life...... (Original Post) Laxman Jul 2017 OP
I wonder if he remembers what he said in his concession speech? Dread Pirate Roberts Jul 2017 #1
I have had considerable differences with Senator McCain Portland_Anni Jul 2017 #2
Thanks for linking the New Yorker story. That was a compelling read. nt blaze Jul 2017 #3
I Remembered Reading It When... Laxman Jul 2017 #4

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
1. I wonder if he remembers what he said in his concession speech?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jul 2017

I agree with you in that I'm no fan of McCain but there were things he said and did sometimes that made you say wow. Could you imagine Trump saying something like this?

Sen. Obama and I have had and argued our differences, and he has prevailed. No doubt many of those differences remain. These are difficult times for our country, and I pledge to him tonight to do all in my power to help him lead us through the many challenges we face.

I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our goodwill and earnest effort to find ways to come together, to find the necessary compromises, to bridge our differences and help restore our prosperity, defend our security in a dangerous world, and leave our children and grandchildren a stronger, better country than we inherited.

Whatever our differences, we are fellow Americans. And please believe me when I say no association has ever meant more to me than that.

Portland_Anni

(164 posts)
2. I have had considerable differences with Senator McCain
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jul 2017

over the years. But I am a veteran and respect the man for how he comported himself through his military career and ordeal as a POW. I hope he survives, and will try to continue to be a voice of reason in the GOP. I definately appreciate his hard stance on the insane criminal in the White House. Integity, honesty and fidelity are qualities abundant in the Repug ranks.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
4. I Remembered Reading It When...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jul 2017

it was written. The other story was about his relationship with David Ifshin. I can't find the article from I think the Atlantic but there was this portion of an episode of This American Life. Like I said, people are complicated. This is worth 15 minutes of your time too:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/41/politics?act=3#play

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