FactCheck.org: Romney 'would be guilty of a federal felony' by claiming 1999 departure

[ProfessionalLeftist]

Earlier this month, FactCheck.org stated that if Mitt Romney had not left Bain Capital in 1999, he "would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

FactCheck.org made that argument to dismiss complaints by the Obama campaign, but a new Boston Globe report on Mitt Romney's true tenure at Bain Capital -- which reportedly lasted until 2002, three years longer than Romney has stated -- brings FactCheck's statement into sharp relief.

"The Obama complaint claims we erred in saying Mitt Romney gave up active management of Bain Capital in early 1999 to run the 2002 Winter Olympics, insisting we were then wrong in saying Romney was not responsible for shipping U.S. jobs overseas," FactCheck's Brooks Jackson and Robert Farley wrote in a response to the Obama campaign, which had complained about an earlier article by the authors.

"In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

Both the FactCheck.org News Desk and the Annenberg Public Policy Center, of which FactCheck.org is a part, could not be reached for comment early Thursday morning.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/factcheck-romney-would-be-guilty-of-federal-felony-128733.html

[railsback]

1. LoL!

The FactCheck 'dismissal' of the Obama ad was extremely lame by FactCheck standards. When I read it, I was amazed that they would actually try to pass off uncertainties as 'proof'. What it ended up being was an article saying they have no proof Obama ISN'T correct. It was stupid of them to publish it without evidence to the contrary, and now with evidence surfacing - which IMHO FactCheck should have easily been able to uncover - showing without a doubt that Romney has been indeed lying through his teeth, FactCheck has put itself in the unenviable position of trying to explain their justification.

FOX has been using the FactCheck article as a tool to defend Romney. Now let's see what they do. Should be funny.

[DallasNE]

11. The Age Old Question

Who fact checks the fact checkers.

They get more things wrong than they get right so it is a matter of following the money. They are not immune to corruption.

In this case they seem to be saying that since Romney has not been charged with a felony that Obama is wrong. What kind of methodology is that? While Obama could be wrong he should never be called wrong on that flimsy basis. It is a joke and a rush to judgement.

[railsback]

22. Yes, highly disappointed in FactCheck for publishing such nonsense

They have a lot of ground to make up now in the authenticity department.

[Segami]

2. K&R

[spanone]

3. k&r...

[malaise]

4. K&R

Huge!

[uponit7771]

5. **SEE BOSTON GLOBE STORY** Rmoneys taxes could CONFIRM he was activiely managing Bain...

...by taking tax deductions that indicated so or getting management salary from them.

Then the SEC has to crap or get off the pot but after convicting Martha Stewart on Technicalities there's not way they could leave rMoney alone with his overt lying...

This might have legs

[NNN0LHI]

6. This is coming too soon!

We need to get him to Tampa before he gets indicted.

Don

[bluedigger]

7. You figured it out.

They are waiting for him to be nominated first.

[DCKit]

8. "FactCheck.org made that argument to dismiss complaints by the Obama campaign..."

With friends like those....

[truebrit71]

9. George Suckedalotofass was positively giddy the other day using factcheck as the bible...

...on GMA against an Obama spokesperson "But factcheck says you're wrong! But factcheck says you're wrong!"....grinning little turncoat rat-fuck-sonofabitch that he is..

[railsback]

23. George should have known better

FactCheck said they couldn't prove Obama was right, not that he was wrong. Now FactCheck can prove Obama was right with actual proof. Lets see if they're man enough to man up.

[tridim]

10. IOKIYAR. nt

[FSogol]

12. Exactly, plus rich people are seldom found guilty. n/t

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[benld74]

13. Can a felon run for POTUS?

[Javaman]

15. the repukes will find a way...

my prediction: nothing will come of this and it will be buried by some other shiny object non-news story.

[boxman15]

16. A potential federal felony is hard to ignore, even for the MSM.

If this gains traction, this could be a gigantic story and would sink the Romney campaign and the GOP.

[Javaman]

24. And there is the rub. Gaining traction.

this will be effectively buried under the right wing wind machine. Bank on it.

Yeah, I'm cynical.

[Douglas Carpenter]

19. you are absolutely right that if it is up to the msm they will bury the story and dismiss the whole

thing as just another example of over the top partisan rhetoric from the Obama campaign. But the facts are clear and fundamentally inarguable in this case. If we do everything we can to push this story and push this story and push this story - they will not be able to ignore it.

[Javaman]

26. Look at reply #17

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Then think how long it took for Tom Delay to get his (which really wasn't muchthat much time served.).

The best thing we can do, is like you said, keep hounding whomever to keep the story current. Character assassination is our only recourse until he gets indited.

[ohgeewhiz]

30. Please, to all you people who refer to post numbers..

DON'T DO IT!!!

Refer to the poster, and the time of the post. Some of us see things differently than you do.

Post numbers are not often accurate after a few hours, and post edits. Just tell us who posted and refer to the title of their post.

Thank you!

[Javaman]

33. Wrong.

the post number doesn't change.

[ohgeewhiz]

35. So your reality is the same as

anyone else's.

And you don't really care if making things harder to understand for anyone else is a problem.

Thank you!

[Javaman]

38. You have been on DU a hand full of days and you suddenly know how all things work?

either you are the amazing kreskin or you are a member who was banned and has come back under a different name.

So, what makes you so full of insight on the internal workings of DU?

And frankly, what is your beef? I find it really odd that this one thing is what you get stuck in your craw to complain about, while no one else seems to care.

On edit: to wit, someone else did the same thing I did, yet you don't give them grief. You are very odd.

[Ineeda]

17. Being accused of a felony

is totally different from being charged, indited, and convicted of a felony. Time is short for all that to happen to Mittens. I'd like to see it happen in October. Surprise!

[HughBeaumont]

20. See post #10.

Now and forever.

[ohgeewhiz]

31. Please, to all you people who refer to post numbers..

DON'T DO IT!!!

Refer to the poster, and the time of the post. Some of us see things differently than you do.

Post numbers are not often accurate after a few hours, and post edits. Just tell us who posted and refer to the title of their post.

Thank you!

[HughBeaumont]

32. Hey . . . Just Joined Last Month:

Here's where I tell you I'm a grown adult and I really don't have to do what you tell me. Thank you for playing, come again.

[ohgeewhiz]

34. Of course, Father Knows Best

and is a male chauvinist pig

[HughBeaumont]

37. That's Leave it to Beaver.

There was no evidence Ward was anything but a kind 1950's dad.

[Javaman]

39. You are a very odd individual.

if there ever was a more bizarre concept to pick a completely useless fight over, this anger of yours over referencing other posts by it's number, has to be one of the most strange I have ever witness on DU. But then again, the "blowing up the moon" and the "I will not be silenced!" threads did set the high water mark in odd rants.

[Politicalboi]

29. Little Bush did

There was evidence he was arrested for possession of Cocaine in Texas, and daddy changed Little Bush's drivers license number to bury it.

[Douglas Carpenter]

14. another story that must be posted EVERYWHERE by EVERYONE NOW!!!

[LondonReign2]

18. Other than his apparently congenital need to lie...

Why is he telling *this* lie? I don't get it, what's in it for him? Is it just to claim that he wasn't in charge when Bain started to Offshorepalooza, or is there some other reason?

[librechik]

21. I've seen this sort of thing before. Romney will be given a chance to pass it off as a mistake

and the media will go along with it. It's not a campaign buster, unfortunately.

At least, not for the Republican Candidate. If it were a democrat, they would be drawn quartered and tossed in the landfill with Gary Hart, Tom Eagleton and Dr. Howard Dean. And it wouldn't be anything like a felony needed, maybe just raise their voice a little bit.

[kentuck]

25. That would be a good incentive to lie...

to keep your ass out of jail or to avoid a large fine. It appears to this novice that Mr Romney likes to play real loose with the laws of this land and whichever way he can make a profit is moral and legitimate for him, and he can rationalize as perfectly OK...

[renate]

27. about the idea that the MSM would ignore this story

I wonder about that, because the MSM would follow any narrative as long as it draws eyeballs to screens. This is kind of juicy... the financial and legal aspects are dry, but the storyline of somebody's becoming the presumptive nominee of the Republican party only to be brought down by his own lies--and maybe even prosecuted--is pretty intriguing.

My concern is that Romney somehow managed to never sign any Bain documents after 1999, and so there's no proof that he's the one who did the lying. He couldn't be held responsible for the activities of a firm he no longer had any connection with. But maybe the SEC documents require the signatures of everyone listed so they couldn't have been filed without his knowledge and approval--and I think I did read somewhere that there are signatures of his on other post-1999 documents from Bain.

[SoCalMusicLover]

28. He Must Be Shaking With Terror

I'm sure Mitt is worried sick over this.

LOL. The things people debate on the internets. LOL!!

[Xyzse]

36. I really am quite ticked...

Why is this article:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/07/13/obama-damaging-his-credibility-dishonest-romney-attacks

Up top in google news? It is just a trascript of a fox news show with Guliani who just lies each time he opens his mouth.

I know this is through the search algorithms, so must find a way to change that top story.