McCain couldn't wait to kill others

[SHRED]

That's what his health care vote would support.
It would have supported removing care from those afflicted like him.

My sympathy meter barely nudges in his case for that reason.

We're in a life and death war for health care.

[guillaumeb]

1. I disagree.

I expect better of liberals. My prayers go out to his family and him.

[TheMastersNemesis]

26. The Sooner The Bastard Dies So Be It If He Supports This Bill.

I am out of sympathy for him and his family. Fuck all of them and I am ok with them being miserable.

[workinclasszero]

28. If he supports stripping millions of americans health care

while all of his is paid for by us....

I will not say what I'm thinking but personally I would not want to die a rich man who condemned millions to sickness, death and bankruptcy to benefit the very wealthy.

[guillaumeb]

31. Do we then become like those we oppose?

If so, they have already won.

[hamsterjill]

35. No.

We are not "them". The very essence of our DNA is different from theirs.

But they have reduced the playing field to a point where we've got to recognize that they are NOT like US. We've had no choice to determining that playing field. They get to determine it because they are the ones in control at the moment.

If McCain votes to remove health care from Americans while having just had his very own mortality thrust in front of him AND being helped by the health care available to him and not available to everyone - then I will lose whatever sympathy I may have for him. I will lose that sympathy because of HIS actions; not because I have changed. I will lose it because he will have caved and because he will not have cared about his fellow Americans. I still care about my friends and neighbors.

We can no longer afford to worry about becoming "them". We have no choice but to fight "them" on "their" terms. Anything less and THEY keep winning. Learning to properly fight in a battle does not necessarily reduce one to the lesser side. There are times when it's necessary, realistic and the smart thing to do.

[guillaumeb]

41. If we fight on their terms,

how far do we go before our behavior is identical to theirs?

[hamsterjill]

46. As far as it takes.

To defeat them. Because if we do not defeat "them" then "we" cease to exist because that is THEIR goal and purpose.

[guillaumeb]

57. An interesting dilemma. eom

[GetRidOfThem]

55. Something just struck me when reading these posts...

... and that is the memory of McCain questioning Comey, where is disjointed thoughts already where an indication of his illness.

I wonder if he is just as mentally impaired in this particular vote? It could be a symptom of his illness, just as the questioning was. If he were healthier, he might have been one of the more moderate ones. Just speculating....

[hamsterjill]

56. I think he was mentally impaired at the Comey hearing.

It came as no surprise to me after seeing his questioning of Comey that he was shortly diagnosed with a brain issue.

Regardless of his capability, he is being allowed to vote. And many of our lives hang in the balance.

[GetRidOfThem]

59. Yes, the Comey hearing was symptomatic

I think there is agreement on that. But what I am saying is that his vote and stance today may also not reflect 100% cognitive ability.

[hamsterjill]

60. And I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm simply saying that there's nothing we can do about that.

[TheMastersNemesis]

39. If I Follow That Logic As A Vietvet I Would Not Shoot At VC As To Be Like Them.

I no longer buy the argument about being like them. There is a point crossed when you have to abandon such argument. As noble as it might be there are situations where such attitude is self defeating. Sometime you have to answer in kind.

And it is not that you should be unsympathetic. But if McCain votes to take away health care, it is a cowardly and self serving act that needs to be called. In such case I have no problem in telling him personally you are getting what you certainly deserve. Knowing the consequences of your vote and doing it anyway is unforgivable.

[guillaumeb]

42. Calling out McCain for his vote is one thing.

Being unsympathetic to him or his family is another.

[TheMastersNemesis]

44. I Really Do Not Care About Those Selfish Bastards. Screw Them All. Nuff Said.

[smirkymonkey]

50. To be perfectly honest, neither do I.

I really don't care about their pain and suffering. These people are no longer human beings to me.

[hamsterjill]

47. Well said!

Yes, sometimes you do have to answer in kind, and now is one of those times.

Bravo!

[Skidmore]

49. We reserve that type of behavior for

flogging our own.

[guillaumeb]

58. Family fights are always the worst. eom

[Skidmore]

64. Yes.

And look where they have gotten us.

[SoCalMusicLover]

52. They Have Already Won nt

[Baconator]

54. He's had a long and successful life...

You seem miserable though...

[Polly Hennessey]

29. Why?

He does not care about yours.

[guillaumeb]

32. Please see #31. eom

[Polly Hennessey]

67. No, I do not become like them.

He deserves none of my kindness or understanding. He is a selfish grifter and would grind you to sawdust if it served his purpose.

[Afromania]

65. I have sympathy for his family, they have to deal with what's going on with him

I have zero for him at this point because he obviously has zero for anybody else. This includes my uncle batting all kinds of things cancer related. He needs the ACA to stay in place so all of his cancer related pre-existing conditions aren't used against him. While my uncle and many others like him are dieing because they can't get health care. McCain and his ilk will make sure they get the get the best and it will be taxpayer funded.

Your expectations of good and pure purity of those on the left is what got us here. We can only turn the other cheek so many times before running out of cheeks to be slapped. Well, we've got good sized red welts on both of them and there is nothing left to offer up. Now we have to stare this mess right in the face and stop the hand from slapping us again.

I expect better out of hypocritical and mean spirited politicians that have ignored the numerous come to god moments dropped right in their laps over the last 8 months; only to ignore them. My prayers go out to the millions of people that will be affected by the loss of healthcare and the millions more that will have to suffer through watching their loved one fall ill and/or die because of the unwavering malice in the heart of McCain and those like him.

[pangaia]

68. The man is an intentional murderer.

He will receive what he deserves.

[BigmanPigman]

2. That's what I said on an earlier post.

I am not a hypocrite and I believe in the "Golden Rule". He was most likely going to vote to basically kill and bankrupt me and my family. I will suffer unnecessary pain for a few years before that eventually happens or I kill myself first..."plan B". He's lucky he has great medical care and won't lose his home and his family's savings like 32 million will (myself included). I am 100% serious and NOT exaggerating, I wish I were in fact.

[SHRED]

5. Republicans don't give two shits about others

He has his and screw you.

We're suppose to feel bad?

[onenote]

16. If you believe in the "Golden Rule"

wouldn't you want to do unto McCain as you would want him to do unto others?

[BigmanPigman]

19. Yeah, I wish him well if he'd learn the true meaning of representing

all of the people all of the time and not just those in good health with a lot of money. Even better, he could prove it by returning to congress (there is a fairly good chance of that since I know people who have experience with these specific medical issues) and start re-writing a bill and it would be along the lines of single-payer. Shit, he could go even further and name it McCainCare so that the GOP could take ownership of it.

[SergeStorms]

22. The "Golden Rule".

Those that have all the gold, rule. I'm sick and tired of having these evil bastards walk all over everyone. Wat has "being nice" ever gotten the Democratic Party? You're experiencing it right now, THAT'S what it's gotten us. Total control by uncaring, selfish, cheating, lying, misogynistic, racist, vote suppressing thugs. Call me crazy, but that "Golden Rule" tactic is NOT working out very well. On a level playing field I'm all for the "Golden Rule", but when the playing field is tilted 45 degrees (or more) toward the GOP? Nah........sorry. It's time to try a different tack.

[smirkymonkey]

66. +1000

[nini]

3. I'm out of fucks to give over ANY of them

If that makes me evil then so be it.

[SHRED]

4. I hear ya

[hamsterjill]

36. You are not evil.

You care about the ordinary Americans who are going to be hurt by the actions of the Republicans.

You have merely understood the playing field which THEY have forced upon the rest of us. We must fight THEM on THEIR terms. It was not our choice either. It has been their choice to take things to the gutter.

[MiniMe]

6. I won't go that far

Cancer is a horrible disease, and I don't wish it for anybody to have that disease. The only thing I will say, and I am sorry to add this, is at least he doesn't have to worry about pre-existing conditions.

[SHRED]

7. I'm not wishing cancer on him or anyone

[onecaliberal]

53. I don't wish cancer on him. I wish him the same care and treatment options he votes for

everyone else to have.

[eleny]

8. I will only say that the irony of this and Scalise's plight is something else

[NanceGreggs]

9. While I don't wish ill health on anyone ...

... it is impossible to forget that while McCain is receiving the best medical care available, he and his party are engaged in trying to ENSURE that their fellow citizens go without that kind of care.

It is equally impossible to forget that McCain was willing to put a whack-job like Sarah Palin within a heart-beat of the presidency - not because he thought she was up to the job, but because he thought the physically attractive Tundra Trash would be the game-changer that could get him elected, the consequences to the country be damned.

I am hopeful that McCain can, with the course of treatment being recommended, live on for many more years. And my heart goes out to his family, who are no doubt sick with worry.

I would wish that his current health problems would open his heart to the plight of those he is willing to condemn to certain death - but I'm not holding my breath. I've learned the hard way that Republicans have no heart to be appealed to.

[TlalocW]

10. Don't want anyone to suffer, but I won't miss or praise him when he's gone (whatever that means)

His political career has been more negative than positive for America, and personality-wise, once you get past his friendly-but-stern-grandpa schtick that he does and look at how he's voted for things, he's a sack of shit.

TlalocW

[fallout87]

11. Anyone know

What happens to his seat if he steps down? Which I assume will be the most likely outcome after todays diagnosis... Is there a special election?

[cynatnite]

13. Ted Kennedy worked after his diagnosis as do a lot of cancer patients...

It will depend on how well McCain manages with this diagnosis and the treatments he'll be subjected to.

[fallout87]

14. I see

But if he steps down, what happens to his seat?

[cynatnite]

15. Special election. It'll be a long and expensive fight if he steps down. n/t

[cynatnite]

12. If not for him, for his family....

He has a wife, children and grandchildren. I think at the very least they deserve some compassion. This will be hell on them.

[sunonmars]

24. Well they could stop him going there and tell him, No.

[former9thward]

17. Thank goodness President Obama is a better man than you.

John McCain is an American hero & one of the bravest fighters I've ever known. Cancer doesn't know what it's up against. Give it hell, John.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/07/19/tougher-than-a-2-steak-washington-reacts-to-john-mccains-tumor-diagnosis/?utm_term=.e2bd927afc20

[OnDoutside]

18. +1

[DLevine]

25. I disagree that it makes Obama a better person.

I think it just makes him more charitable. Some of us can't muster much sympathy for a man who would vote to give many of his fellow Americans a death sentence. That doesn't make us bad people, just people with a different perspective.

[SHRED]

34. I disagree with Obama on this

What about those who die from cancer are they "weak" then?
They didn't fight hard enough?

And now that McCain is going the extra distance to kill others ...fuck him this is war.

[LanternWaste]

40. It's bemusing to watch both you and OP rationalize who is worth what...

It's bemusing to watch both you and OP rationalize who is worth what... I used to hold others to a higher standard than myself as well.

[SHRED]

51. McCain getting ready to vote...

...to take away healthcare from 33 million.

Many will die.

[spiderpig]

21. Any chance he'll appear in chambers and vote against the party line?

His legacy would be sealed. In a positive way.

[SHRED]

33. None

[sunonmars]

23. If he votes to kill Healthcare in his state, there is a special place in hell for him, screw him.

Deserves no sympathy.

[SHRED]

37. If?

They need his yes vote and that is why he went.

[enid602]

30. McCain

He's a Maverick and an independent thinker. He'll follow his consciience, just like when he abandoned his first trophy wife after she suffered a devastating car accident, in favor of his current trophy heiress wife.

[SHRED]

38. He is slime

[Sunlei]

43. has he voted yet? survived the travel stress?

[SHRED]

45. In about 20 minutes

[alarimer]

48. I wish him ill.

He can go fuck himself.

[OnDoutside]

61. Is he any different to an Isis terrorist wanting to take a load

Of Americans with him ?

[SHRED]

62. I see no difference

[dalton99a]

63. After this vote, McCain deserves nothing but contempt

[Meowmee]

69. No surprise

To me he did this. He's going to get the best health care which we will pay for while he dies and he denies it to us. He is the lowest of the low. He has already shown himself to be a lousy person in many ways.