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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,391 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:22 PM Jul 2017

Harrity's attorney: 'Reasonable' for officers to fear ambush before Justine Damond shooting (Mpls)

http://startribune.com/attorney-reasonable-to-believe-officer-feared-ambush-when-he-shot-justine-damond/435415343/

The attorney for Minneapolis police officer Matthew Harrity said that “it’s certainly reasonable” for the officers to believe they were the target of a possible ambush when Harrity's partner, officer Mohamed Noor, shot and killed Justine Damond in a south Minneapolis alley Saturday night.

Fred Bruno declined to discuss the ongoing investigation into the incident, which has drawn national and international attention and stirred community unrest and demands for answers as to why Noor, 31, shot the 40-year-old spiritual healer from Australia.

“It’s certainly reasonable to assume that any police officer would be concerned about a possible ambush under these circumstances,” Bruno said. “It was only a few weeks ago when a female NYPD cop and mother of twins was executed in her car in a very similar scenario.”

Bruno was referencing the case of New York City police officer Miosotis Familia, 48, who was killed July 5 after a mentally ill man shot her in the head while she sat in her squad car in the Bronx.

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At least they're honest about their attitudes?
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Harrity's attorney: 'Reasonable' for officers to fear ambush before Justine Damond shooting (Mpls) (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 OP
Culture of guns shoot first, kill then ask questions later but not answering any questions uponit7771 Jul 2017 #1
Nice try. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2
A woman in pajamas AT HER OWN HOUSE. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #10
Which implies that those exboyfil Jul 2017 #11
No, not at all. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #15
They're already laying the groundwork to get the cop off. brush Jul 2017 #17
Well, that's the lawyers' job. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #18
Lawyers do what lawyers do. The lady is dead so the next order of business is to get the cop off. brush Jul 2017 #19
The Red Queen Police maxrandb Jul 2017 #3
Isn't Minneapolis a bit safer than NYC in general? cwydro Jul 2017 #4
Apparently so. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #6
Yes indeed. cwydro Jul 2017 #14
Perhaps this isn't the line of work they should be in to begin with! MagickMuffin Jul 2017 #5
If police and their supporters want cops to be seen as upstanding members of the community, maybe WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #7
Who watches the Watchmen? exboyfil Jul 2017 #8
IOW: ANY citizen can be shot to DEATH by cops at ANY time, ANYwhere, because....AMBUSH!!! WinkyDink Jul 2017 #9
This country needs to come to terms with its increasing institutionalized state violence. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #12
So its justifiable for the police to shoot anyone who approaches them while they're in their car? onenote Jul 2017 #13
Apparently. cwydro Jul 2017 #16
911 Call: Before being shot by officer, Justine Damond called in possible rape WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #20
If so, why not turn on their cameras, so if they are ambushed the perps are on tape? nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #21
That's great - fear ambush, "a loud noise" - shoot anything that moves. F&% that! jmg257 Jul 2017 #22
Maybe it's just me, but I doubt an ambush would involve a blonde lady in pajamas. Vinca Jul 2017 #23

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,809 posts)
2. Nice try.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

At 51st and Washburn in Minneapolis? Seriously? By a woman in pajamas? Seriously?

Fred Bruno is a very good lawyer, but it can be tough to defend the indefensible. I'd say "close but no cigar," but this isn't even close, and no, you don't get the cigar.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
11. Which implies that those
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jul 2017

in not quite so good neighborhoods are less deserving of due diligence by LEOs before they shoot?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,809 posts)
15. No, not at all.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jul 2017

But to argue that it was "reasonable" for the cops to fear being ambushed by a woman in pajamas in a neighborhood where violent crime is almost unheard-of is a pretty tough sell. In the toughest neighborhood in the city it might be reasonable for the policy to be more wary, but it is never reasonable, anywhere, to do what this cop did. If they were afraid of being ambushed, why didn't they just tell the victim not to approach the car?

brush

(53,823 posts)
17. They're already laying the groundwork to get the cop off.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jul 2017

How many times have we seen this with all the black men shootings?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. Isn't Minneapolis a bit safer than NYC in general?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jul 2017

Are the cops in the Twin Cities really that frightened for their lives.?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. Yes indeed.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:35 PM
Jul 2017

I grew up in a southern city which is still struggling with a high murder rate.

There have been cop shootings, but each time there was a reason for them. Not necessarily good reasons, but no women in pajamas have been shot while the cops fear ambush.

MagickMuffin

(15,950 posts)
5. Perhaps this isn't the line of work they should be in to begin with!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jul 2017

If they are that paranoid then look for work elsewhere, please for the love of goddess find another career.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,391 posts)
7. If police and their supporters want cops to be seen as upstanding members of the community, maybe
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jul 2017

they should stop fearing and despising people they're supposedly protecting.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
9. IOW: ANY citizen can be shot to DEATH by cops at ANY time, ANYwhere, because....AMBUSH!!!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

NO THREAT BY VICTIM REQUIRED.

NO WEAPON ON VICTIM REQUIRED.

NO FULL ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION REQUIRED.

Such intemperate, unjustified MURDER only serves to make the armed citizenry trigger-happy themselves.

onenote

(42,742 posts)
13. So its justifiable for the police to shoot anyone who approaches them while they're in their car?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think so.....

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,391 posts)
20. 911 Call: Before being shot by officer, Justine Damond called in possible rape
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jul 2017
http://startribune.com/911-call-before-being-shot-by-officer-justine-damond-called-in-possible-rape/435423423/

Justine Damond spent her last moments trying to help a stranger.

At 11:27 on Saturday night, Damond called police to report a possible sexual assault, according to a 911 transcript obtained by the Star Tribune Wednesday.

"I'm not sure if she's having sex or being raped," Damond told the operator. After giving her address, Damond continued: "I think she just yelled out 'help,' but it's difficult the sound has been going on for a while, but I think, I don't think she's enjoying it."

"OK," said the operator, "I've already got an officer on the way."

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
22. That's great - fear ambush, "a loud noise" - shoot anything that moves. F&% that!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 03:51 PM
Jul 2017

Time to get another career - after you serve your time.

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