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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRohrabacher asks about ancient civilizations on Mars. LOL.
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What's up there?
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,809 posts)to the home of his ancestors.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)This ship has other ports of call, and cannot stop by to pick up this thing.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)(Right, yes, sorry about that...I did get a little obsessed there. Couldn't stop myself. )
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Yes congressman, we have found whole cities. tRump and Pootie have already colluded twice in one of those buildings.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I would have busted out laughing in his face. The internet is sure having fun with this.
"Dear NASA: can you please send Rohrabacher to Mars to look for evidence? 'k thx "
"Dana Rohrabacher Asks NASA: Was Mars A Good Place To Raise A Kid?"
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RestoreAmerica2020
(3,438 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)
If NASA representative didn't respond in kind to idiotic query, say...robackkker your a F***ng idiot and you're a perfect example of alien life on earth, perhaps satan himself...however, if NASA person didn't respond in kind, he is complicit in said insanity. The mention of child sex slaves even in jest, is sick and criminal ...how very untoward. P.s. has anyone reported this nutcase to child protective services? Because joking or not its not normal-- he is one loco mal hombre! (Crazy badman) wueei cocoman! (a evil-sinister monster hiding under the bed.)
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)if the Russians are giving him and Trump some of their famous tea.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Rohrabacher would make a good guest for some comedy relief.
SunSeeker
(51,649 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)does not understand the difference between thousands of years and billions of years. Which is probably typical of those who think such nonsense as the Earth is only 6,000 years or so old.
In a similar way, most people haven't a clue just how vast interstellar distances are, let alone inter galactic distances.
Here's the best way to explain those vast distances: Our galaxy, Milky Way, has about 300,000,000 (three hundred billion) stars and is on a collision course with Andromeda, which has about 1,000,000,000 (one trillion stars). They will collide in about 4 or 5 billion years. I know, brace yourself. (If you're interested, google Milky Way Andromeda collision and you'll find lots of simulations out there). Recently I asked an astronomer friend, just how may stars which actually crash into each other when that happens? He said, Well, we don't know for sure, but the current best guess is no more than ten. Stars inside of any one galaxy are very, very far apart. Galaxies are in general even farther apart.
The time frame of just how old our solar system is far vaster than most of us can fully comprehend. And someone who only hears simplistic explanations, such as the Earth being only 6,000 years old, is simply unprepared to understand the reality of things like the time span of human evolution, or just how long ago the dinosaurs roamed.
It's a sad commentary on the state of science education in this country.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The universe doesn't need a reason to exist.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Or, from what did dinosaurs evolve?
I don't share the mockery of my fellow DUers, re: Mars. There exists life on the third planet from the sun; who are we to state with certainty that no life ever---as in millions or even billions of years---existed on Mars?
I'll bet many extant humans also have difficulty imagining the erstwhile lush and fertile area now known as the Sahara Desert.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Where there is matter and the proper physical conditions, there will be carbon-based life. There may be other forms of life too, of greater complexity. Silica has the same valence property as carbon.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The universe doesn't need to expand into something in order to be expanding.
To answer your second question: dinosaurs evolved from archosaurs which evolved from more primitive reptiles, surely you don't believe in creationism?
Thirdly no one said Mars never had life, that's called a straw man argument. Mars has an atmosphere which used to be thicker and it also has water so there's a chance there was some form of life on the red planet. However, that does not mean there were ancient civilizations and that NASA is hiding evidence of them, that's a crackpot conspiracy and it should be mocked.
We're not mocking DUers, we're mocking the congressman from California who asked NASA scientists about ancient civilizations on Mars and embarrassed us all.
And finally the answers to the questions you asked don't prove that the universe needs a reason to exist, it still doesn't.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)is to imagine life on the surface of an expanding balloon, only in 4 dimensions, not 2
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Also the universe encompasses everything so whatever in expands into would become part of the universe.
#science!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)earlier creatures that adapted to conditions on the planet. They didn't show up from nothing.
Lots of people still cling to the idea, the false idea, that humans are totally unique, show up in the fossil record with no antecedents, and so therefore we must have been put here by aliens. While we don't know the full evolutionary history, we've filled in many of the blanks, and know that we share something like 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. That's not what you'd find if we were from somewhere else.
Again, too many people don't understand just how long several billion years is, or just how geologically active our planet is.
As for the Universe expanding question, that's simply not a valid question. It's simply expanding. Sort of like a balloon expands when you blow it up. It is something you can research on line, or if you know any astrophysicists, they love to discuss that sort of thing.
Oops. I see this question was already answered, which I didn't notice when I posted this. I thought of self-deleting but I'll leave this in place.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Hence, humanity's continuing drive and determination to find that reason.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Religious people and philosophers may concern themselves with such irrelevant questions but they do not represent the whole of humanity.
Stars and galaxies do not need a creator to be explained.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)(off by a factor of 1,000)
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)I am saying what I intend, pointing out there's a vast difference between billions of years and a mere 6,000, although I also recognize that Rohrabacher may not actually believe in such a young earth. He did seem to not understand the difference between millions of years and thousands of years. I just jumped up to billions to account for the actual age of this planet, as well as of Mars.
I did not intend to be confusing or not understand the differences in scale. I just chose a different number. So I apologize if I introduced any confusion with my post.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Is three hundred million. 300,000,000,000 is three hundred billion.
You left off three zeros and a comma.
Otherwise, pretty cool.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)I really appreciate that, as I knew perfectly well the number I intended, and just didn't do it correctly.
I like to get things right, so I like it when someone lets me know when I've gotten something wrong.
ProfessorGAC
(65,136 posts)You don't have enough zeroes in your numbers. In words you spell out 300 billion and a trillion, but in both cases you are missing 3 zeroes. You only have 9 zeroes in your trillion value for stars in Andromeda.
I like your post, but the missing zeroes were bugging me.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)"1,000,000,000 (one trillion stars)." no.. it is 1 billion
Just checking up on your math in case that wackos are trolling and do a screen capture
But I did crack up at the fact that only 10 stars will collide
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)underpants
(182,866 posts)dhill926
(16,351 posts)some really good drugs...
GReedDiamond
(5,316 posts)...just sayin.
3catwoman3
(24,026 posts)Isn't there supposed to be some secret child sex-slave colony on Mars? I mean, I know NASA is denying it, but you can't trust them gubmint types.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/nasa-denies-that-its-running-a-child-slave-colony-on-mars
Dear gawd, these folks are lunatics! They should be glad breathing doesn't require informed decision making. Maybe it's too bad it doesn't.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)WINNER....
flamingdem
(39,316 posts)but he's also a Californian!
We believe
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)please come take the Republicans.
You can either suck out their brains for a light snack, or put them to work shoveling space manure.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)can you find the missing 33,000 emails?
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,835 posts)http://www.enterprisemission.com/
He sure told Art Bell what was up there a few years ago...
http://www.enterprisemission.com/sir.htm
OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)Mesee
(42 posts)I have met Edgar Mitchell along with Richard C. Hoagland, Steven Bassett, Linda Morton Howe from several conferences on Disclosure. NASA and the Vatican acknowledges there was Life on Mars with high definition pictures. (Face on Mars). The men who went to the Moon spoke of witnessing UFO's. It is so easy to mock and laugh rather to explore the NASA research. www.theithersidepofmidnight.com, www.earthfiles.com, www.enterprisemission. com, www.disclosureproject.org. Can you handle the truth?
JHB
(37,161 posts)From 2001:
Unmasking the Face
on Mars
New high-resolution images and 3D altimetry from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft reveal the Face on Mars for what it really is: a mesa.
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast24may_1/
The only thing remarkable is how much mileage Hoagland et al. got out of fuzzy early pictures of a rock formation.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)but aliens nonetheless did not build everything exceptional wherever people of color live on the earth. People will sell the least probably ideas for money or to spread their fantasies, and there will always be suckers who pay for it.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)He's the exact same color as the planet, after all.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Just to see what he would do, old Jr High trick.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Love the discreet shout-out to the creationists though.
My father is fond of saying "If Congressman Rohrabacher sat down on the steps of Congress he would be arrested for vagrancy."
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)I think he's one of the guys Kevin McCarthy was joking about.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/putin-congress-rohrabacher-trump-231775
salin
(48,955 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)Gone from useful fool, to intentional tool - for the Russian's interests.
Indeed it is shameful. Will his constituents ever catch on?
dalton99a
(81,566 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)I don't think the question on it's own is bad. It's the Jesus riding a dinosaur context that makes him look ridiculous.
salin
(48,955 posts)to L Ron Hubbard, as well as the Russians. (Scientology would support his question about Mars and ancient civilizations - and wouldn't be flustered by the answer in terms of Billions of years, but wouldn't believe the no evidence part of the answer.)
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)She took a principled stand for love, honesty, integrity and truth, and emerged from the conflict with deserved honor.
RandySF
(59,136 posts)and answering.
Doodley
(9,119 posts)blue-wave
(4,359 posts)He knows everything!!
klook
(12,164 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)Yes, there are ancient civilizations and we have reason to believe they were Christian.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Who else could it be?
Turbineguy
(37,362 posts)What a penance!
shenmue
(38,506 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)be the voice to push for sanctions release.
I guess maybe they're not as savvy as I thought.
This mess is my congress critter. We had a lot of fun with the Mars thing at our Huddle meeting last night.
MrPurple
(985 posts)I think the Don's slippin'.
dchill
(38,516 posts)than I am about the current one on Earth. I'm concerned about Republican Congressmen who do their damnedest to destroy it. Like US Representative and Russian agent Dana Rohrabacher.
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)of the group who believe the earth is 5,000 years old .. go figure.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)if not they need to - Rohrabacher is proof of that!