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Mosby

(16,315 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:56 PM Jul 2017

A Chipotle restaurant is closed after yet another foodborne illness outbreak

A Chipotle franchise in Sterling, Va., temporarily closed Tuesday morning after receiving multiple reports from customers who said they got sick after eating at the restaurant, sending the chain's stock plummeting 6 percent.

The reports — which were collected on the crowdsourced early-warning site “I Was Poisoned” — describe severe vomiting, diarrhea and stomach pains contracted in the hours after eating at the Chipotle Mexican Grill at 21031 Tripleseven Rd.

The incident raises specters of the string of foodborne illness outbreaks that devastated the Denver-based chain in 2015. The restaurant experienced repeated outbreaks of E. coli, salmonella and norovirus in a six-month period, forcing it to take the extraordinary step of temporarily closing more than 2,000 locations in February 2016 to conduct employee food-safety training.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/18/a-chipotle-restaurant-is-closed-after-yet-another-foodborne-illness-outbreak/

This was caused by a sick employee. It's the risk you take when the food is assembled but not heated, just like taco bell and subway.

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A Chipotle restaurant is closed after yet another foodborne illness outbreak (Original Post) Mosby Jul 2017 OP
Watch the Put options superpatriotman Jul 2017 #1
How was NOT allowing sick employees to assemble food NOT covered in training? Moostache Jul 2017 #2
You make some good points Mosby Jul 2017 #3
Yeah, like they're going to call in sick and keep their jobs jberryhill Jul 2017 #4
Yet the person who got terribly ill would resent paying an extra buck Warpy Jul 2017 #5
Very true Mosby Jul 2017 #7
Oh bother. hunter Jul 2017 #6
My family and I got norovirus from Jimmy Johns. defacto7 Jul 2017 #8
i work in a restaurant where i am seriously surprised that more people haven't gotten sick; the bigg TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #9
forgot to add that if an employee "wants" to call in sick, they are required to find their own repla TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #10
Who still eats at Shitpotle? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #11

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. How was NOT allowing sick employees to assemble food NOT covered in training?
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 05:20 PM
Jul 2017

This is just another example of why several things are massively wrong in our country and the way wealth distribution is at the heart of it all...

First, the employee working while sick most likely had no choice. These jobs are at or near minimum wage across the country and that can be well below the poverty line. People in these jobs may not have any choice but to work through an illness because the loss of a day's pay is a crushing percentage of their already stretched take-home.

Second, the company clearly made a big show of closing its stores and holding food handling safety training for its employees, but what about enforcing workplace standards via corporate auditing and management. Were these done? If yes, why did they fail? If no, why is that? If it is found that the owner of this particular store was cutting corners, does the "we didn't know" defense apply to franchisees as well as to corporate entities...or are corporations only people when they are doling out campaign cash instead of endangering public health?

Last, cheap food - made from low grade ingredients, prepared en masse by underpaid employees and with the nutritional value of cardboard lathered in honey and sprinkled in sugar is killing us all and contributing MASSIVELY to the obesity epidemic in the country and around the world. Our entire food paradigm is in dangerous imbalance with both our daily requirements and our evolutionary ability to digest, process and survive the frankenfood that surrounds us. From antibiotics in the livestock and ground water to growth hormones in the milk and meat to chemical concoctions in the prepared foods there is enough real time experimentation going on in our bodies over the last 40 years to make anyone serious about their health more than a little concerned.

Things like this outbreak come and go and sometimes people stop to notice, but usually it is water under the bridge in a few days. THAT is more concerning to me than the fact that another fast food restaurant poisoned its customers again. Until the OWNERS of these places are forced to pay severe, PERSONAL penalties...and I am not talking about a $100,000 fine, I am talking a significant % of their GROSS receipts for a sustained period AND a huge PERSONAL fine AND a significant penalty for any repeat offenses, then these kinds of corporate malfeasance will continue.

The remedy is in more employee-owned and employee-run restaurants and businesses, where there is no franchise owner who reaps the lion's share of the profits for the lamb's share of the physical work. Business models that force employees to CARE and rewards them for it with much larger shares of the profits. The distribution of wealth in America allows all of this...owners to buy friendly, toothless or non-existent regulators and enforcement of health and welfare standards...minimum wage treadmill jobs to keep people running themselves to death for literally peanuts...insecurity in the middle class to cow them into silence for fear of being thrown into poverty themselves within a pay period...

It doesn't have to be this way, we've just allowed ourselves to be fooled into believing it does. The world is constantly changing and not always for the better, but the acceptance of shit food and shit jobs and shit wage distribution is not something that we should continue to accept while our politicians gorge themselves on hidden benefits and kushy lobbyist gigs when they rotate out of D.C. or the State houses.

Mosby

(16,315 posts)
3. You make some good points
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jul 2017

A typical chipotle burrito has 1300 calories, 25-40 grams of saturated fat and a day's worth of sodium. Regardless of the ingredients that's not a healthy meal for most people.

Chipotle was supposed to be offering sick time to all employees to discourage sick employes from coming to work but I don't know if that was rolled out everywhere.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Yeah, like they're going to call in sick and keep their jobs
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jul 2017

What nonsense.

This kind of thing only works if employees can genuinely call in sick.

But given the choice between losing their job and calling in sick, Chipotle can have all the "policy' in the world - their employees are going to make the rational choice.

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
5. Yet the person who got terribly ill would resent paying an extra buck
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jul 2017

for a big meal so that the employees could take sick days. You'd think this would be a no brainer, you want to keep sick people from spreading infection through the food supply, but stingy people are just incapable of connecting those dots to form a picture.

This is why government has to step in and regulate this stuff.

Mosby

(16,315 posts)
7. Very true
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jul 2017

It wasn't that many years ago when food service workers didn't even wear gloves. They wear them now because of health dept regs.

Unfortunately using sick employees is one thing the health departments don't have any control over, unless the inspector just happens to show up that day.

hunter

(38,313 posts)
6. Oh bother.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jul 2017

The stench of speculators gaming is strong.

I had a bad Taco Bell experience once, long ago, but my worst ever was a very, very, very upscale place my employer at the time was paying for... Even with decades of inflation, it's still the most expensive meal I've ever suffered followed by spewing all night at both ends.

Worst of all, I had to wear a fucking suit and tie and be implored not call anyone on their bullshit.




defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. My family and I got norovirus from Jimmy Johns.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jul 2017

Had to boil our clothes and bedding... after the most horrible sick ever. Wish I'd known they were a rw business. I would never have gone there.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
9. i work in a restaurant where i am seriously surprised that more people haven't gotten sick; the bigg
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jul 2017

biggest factor is upper management's insistence on keeping labor extremely low. cleaning is considered to be optional, and something that is only done when there is literally absolutely nothing "more important" to do. store management get their bonuses primarily based on keeping labor low. corporate is also a big factor; different companies definitely have different inspection practices and priorities. some of them seem like they really couldn't care less about food safety.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
10. forgot to add that if an employee "wants" to call in sick, they are required to find their own repla
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jul 2017

replacement. if they don't, there could be repercussions, depending on different factors.

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