Trump had 2nd, private meeting with Putin during G20 summit.

[MelissaB]

Last edited Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:39 PM - Edit history (3)

***Important: TRUMP DID NOT USE AN AMERICAN TRANSLATOR OR NOTE-TAKER.***


Scoop: @ianbremmer says Trump had second, private meeting with Putin during G20 summit.

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Video: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Update from The Hill:

The meeting took place during the G-20 heads of state dinner, according to Bremmer, hours after Trump's formal bilateral sit-down with Putin.

In that conversation, Trump spoke with the Russian leader for roughly an hour, joined only by Putin's translator. The meeting had previously gone without mention by the White House.

Trump's interactions with Putin are the subject of particularly intense scrutiny in the U.S., because of the ongoing special counsel and congressional investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

That Trump was not joined in the conversation by his own translator is a breach of national security protocol, Bremmer noted, though one that the president likely would not know about.

Link: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342589-ian-bremmer-trump-and-putin-held-second-informal-meeting-during-g-20


Another update:
! This detail in the Times reporting of the 2nd Trump-Putin meeting: http://nyti.ms/2u5OlEI

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[Eliot Rosewater]

1. The fucker is a traitor, and the god damn GOP better put on their patriot pants and soon

otherwise there WILL be problems.

[madokie]

2. There are problems already

Hate to break it to you Eliot, But

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. And I meant us patriots might have problems with tolerating this much longer.

[madokie]

5. Peace

[Eliot Rosewater]

6. and to you. I am trying to figure out a way to make people ANGRY to the

point of doing two things:

1. vote for any democrat in 2018 no matter what

2. DEMAND something be done immediately about the entire Trump administration

[madokie]

7. I'm right there with you

as many here are also

[panader0]

34. I own a pitchfork.

[TNNurse]

10. I do not tolerate it now, but there have to be Republicans who will speak up.

[Eliot Rosewater]

11. That is why I am done tolerating, given half the voting public is in favor of treason.

[kairos12]

38. Unfortunately, about 38% of the country prefers Putin to any Democrat.

[Eliot Rosewater]

40. This is a fact, which is also why the country is beyond salvation

or will be if EVERY patriot doesnt show up in 2018 and vote for ANY democrat.

If your neighbors cat runs as a democrat, you vote for her.

[EL34x4]

61. I'm sure John McCain will have something to say about this.

Maybe Lindsey Graham.

Unfortunately, this will not have the desired effect.

[LiberalLovinLug]

64. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumbass

[relayerbob]

9. They don't own any

[Arkansas Granny]

3. I saw the Charlie Rose interview this morning and posted about it earlier. However, I have searched

but can't find any other report of the meeting.

[MelissaB]

8. I didn't see your post or I would have recommended it.

[Arkansas Granny]

27. It was early this morning. It's probably on page 3 by now.

[still_one]

32. It is a headline in the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2017/07/18/trump-and-putin-had-a-previously-undisclosed-hour-long-meeting-at-the-group-of-20-summit-in-germany/?utm_term=.71fa6b36a884?tid=a_breakingnews&hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar

[MelissaB]

12. It sounds like this may have been at the time Ivanka sat in for the Donald for

that meeting.

[MelissaB]

13. From The Hill:

The meeting took place during the G-20 heads of state dinner, according to Bremmer, hours after Trump's formal bilateral sit-down with Putin.

In that conversation, Trump spoke with the Russian leader for roughly an hour, joined only by Putin's translator. The meeting had previously gone without mention by the White House.

Trump's interactions with Putin are the subject of particularly intense scrutiny in the U.S., because of the ongoing special counsel and congressional investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

That Trump was not joined in the conversation by his own translator is a breach of national security protocol, Bremmer noted, though one that the president likely would not know about.

Link: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342589-ian-bremmer-trump-and-putin-held-second-informal-meeting-during-g-20

[MelissaB]

14. CNN is now reporting this

"previously undisclosed 2nd meeting."

[MelissaB]

15. NSC spox didn't say how long Trump/Putin conversation lasted & declined to provide details,

NSC spox didn't say how long Trump/Putin conversation lasted & declined to provide details, citing fact that no staff were present

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[MelissaB]

16. Was this the second G20 meeting between Trump and Putin or was there a 3rd?

Was this the second G20 meeting between Trump and Putin that everyone's referring to? Or was there a third?

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Larger pic:

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. I think it wasn't a "meeting" per se; other people were milling around so was just "get acquainted".

0. Get acquainted.

1. Formal meeting w SecState & Foreign Minister and two translators present.

2. Private meeting with Trump alone & Russian interpreter. This is where the plans were discussed for the dealing out of the remaining quid pro quo and plan for how to coordinate handling the fallout from stealing the election.

[6000eliot]

17. Reviewing the Pee Pee Tape?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. There's the collusion. Only Putin's translator, not American; Trump wanted no WITNESS. . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. "Breach of security protocol"; only a stupid person would not think of it.

Whether or not Republican Trump was informed of the protocol is immaterial. An intelligent person can think of such an obvious aspect themselves.

Trump surely knew. Even he is not that stupid.

So he did it on purpose. The only purpose would be to consult on matters that he did not want a US witness to. Matters of collusion.

There you have it.

[Arkansas Granny]

33. Exactly. Even if Trump didn't know, someone on his staff should have known.

Instead, his staff consists of people who have even less experience than Trump.

[malaise]

20. All over network news this evening

Oh My!

[sunonmars]

22. This is highly forbidden, he should be impeached immediately.

[sunonmars]

23. WH has now confirmed its truth.

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[malaise]

24. What does Rasputin have on

Groper Don the Con - bet he was told to free up those two buildings or else

[sunonmars]

26. How did they allow this to happen?

[malaise]

30. Who - the Secret Service protects

It does not schedule or cancel meetings. This is why he's destroying the State Department.

[sunonmars]

25. good god, Congress, do something, anything, this is beyond a joke now.

[awesomerwb1]

28. Maybe that's why Ivanka took his spot

at one of those meetings while cheeto was meeting with his master.

They thought no one would notice.

[mchill]

29. Don't know if it's just a stressful day anyway, but this is exceedingly disturbing

I've had enough of Trump and Russia. I can't be the only one? Enough.

[Glimmer of Hope]

31. My gawd. That is enough time for him to give away stuff.

[MelissaB]

35. Trump may have walked into a trap

I hope this was recorded and that it does come out.

Twitter thread from Eric Garland:

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This is how stupid TrumpCo is: Putin knew the whole G20 - in the heart of NATO - was wired for sound. Trump didn't

Trump walked into a trap where he'd be recorded saying something collusiony and treasony. Putin let him, to burn his agent and embarrass us.

So, yeah, the first cut of media coverage only involved the two-hour baby-oil massage meeting between Trump and His Daddy? Of course.

And then, as always, somewhere between Moscow and DC, a second round of media comes out, showing that Trump was lying the whole time.

Guys. This is the story of governments negotiating about what happens to Russia because of/after Trump. A high-stakes game, to be sure.

But, you're not crazy, the governments and the media reporting on the latest are all basically screwing with you. It's a charade.

Trump is a criminal in search of a prison term. Putin is a threat in search of a response. In the meantime, a grand guignol... </>

[malaise]

57. It's time to IMPEACH HIM

and LOCK HIM UP!

[BumRushDaShow]

36. NYT now reporting

and underscores there was no "record" of it -

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TEXT
The New York Times?Verified account @nytimes

Trump and Putin had an undisclosed private talk at the G-20 summit, but there is no U.S. government record of it
6:43 PM - 18 Jul 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/world/europe/trump-putin-undisclosed-meeting.html

[MelissaB]

50. Brutal

Let the flood gates open.

[sellitman]

37. You guys always jump to conclusions.

They met with the singular task of talking about adoptions.

[MelissaB]

49. I think you could be right.

Maybe Trump adopted whatever idea(s) Putin suggested.

[BigmanPigman]

39. Mueller is on top of it! He's going to question several people.

[spanone]

41. this is getting too fucking crazy. we have no idea what this clown/asshole is up to.

[spanone]

42. drip. drip. drip...

[Johnny2X2X]

43. He's an idiot!

The optics of this are awful, even Trumk had to know this would be a firestorm.

My guess is Putin told him he didn't have a choice.

[Jopin Klobe]

44. a breach of national security protocol ... one that the president likely would not know about ...

... riiiight ... becaust the President of the United States never has any access to any legal expertise regarding the running of the country ...

... lawyers like that don't exist in the government ... right there in Washington ... that we're paying for ...

... I'm starting to have thoughts that possibly - veerrry possibly - tRump is a God damned fool ...

[bagimin]

45. k&r

[Gothmog]

46. I wonder what Trump gave his boss?

[MelissaB]

51. I'd say his soul, but I don't think he has one.

[Gothmog]

52. Trump sold that worthless piece of property a long time ago

[MelissaB]

47. ! This detail in the Times reporting of the 2nd Trump-Putin meeting:

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[MelissaB]

48. Holy shit: The reactions from foreign leaders who witnessed the second Trump-Putin meeting

The reactions from foreign leaders who witnessed the second Trump-Putin meeting

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[politicaljunkie41910]

63. None of our Allies will ever trust Trump or believe a word he says. Particularly if we had to put

troops on the ground or invade another country on the word of this u.s.president. All the more reason why he should be impeached and SOON.

[SHRED]

53. We have a right to know what they discussed

He's a public employee.

[MelissaB]

54. This reporter from BuzzFeed had it 10 days ago.

I am told that Trump and Putin had a "long chat" right after last night's #G20 dinner

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[blueinredohio]

55. Lordy I hope there were tapes

[MelissaB]

58. Lordy, so do I.

I think it's a really good bet that there are.

[Lokilooney]

65. I'm sure there are too

But you would have to ask the Russians for them.

[Corgigal]

56. I wonder

if one of our allies, or our CIA has the recording. Release it. Let us hear this and don't piece meal over a week for print circulation.

Putin did this for a reason, were adults and we have to stop being handled. It's our govt, let us decide.

[MelissaB]

59. When asked about the odds that Merkel had that dining room bugged

a former intelligence agent replied: 110%

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Please, oh please, release the tape.

[Retrograde]

60. What did the Great Negotiator give away this time? (n/t)

[milestogo]

62. No translator? Were they speaking the international language?