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ksoze

(2,068 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 01:44 PM Jul 2017

"Double Haters" went for Trump and not Clinton - Devil's Bargain

First look at a hot passage from a book out today by Josh Green of Bloomberg Businessweek, "Devil's Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the Storming of the Presidency":

"Both campaigns battled for a group of voters who would ultimately decide the race. ... Trump's data analysts gave them a nickname: 'double haters.' These were people who disliked both candidates but traditionally showed up at the polls to vote. They were a sizable bloc: 3 to 5 percent of the 15 million voters across seventeen battleground states that Trump's staff believed were persuadable.

"Early on, many indicated support for third‐party candidate Gary Johnson. But after a series of televised flubs, ... they largely abandoned him. ... Many refused to answer pollsters' questions ... These were the voters Clinton had hoped to shear off from Trump with her 'alt-right' speech in August. ... Comey's letter had the effect of convincing the double haters to finally choose."

How the "double haters" voted: The national exit poll found 18% of voters had an unfavorable opinion of both Trump and Clinton. Those voters went 47% for Trump, 30% for Clinton.



https://www.axios.com/go-inside-trumpworld-with-devils-bargain-book-2461321962.html

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"Double Haters" went for Trump and not Clinton - Devil's Bargain (Original Post) ksoze Jul 2017 OP
Thanks again, Comey. n/t LisaM Jul 2017 #1
+ 1 red dog 1 Jul 2017 #2
i have the tune of alanis morrisette's thank you with the lyrics of thank you comey La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #3
Great, now I do too! LisaM Jul 2017 #6
ha ha! sorry. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #7
No worries! LisaM Jul 2017 #10
What annoys me is that the various polls included both the head to head question karynnj Jul 2017 #4
That's exactly who they're talking to when they bring up Hillary loyalsister Jul 2017 #5
His interview on Fresh Air/NPR was very interesting. irisblue Jul 2017 #8
I think the reason so many went Trump of those who disliked both lovemydogs Jul 2017 #9

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
2. + 1
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jul 2017

James Comey clearly violated the 1939 Hatch Act by sending that "more Clinton emails found" letter just 11 days before the election
(Before that treasonous letter, Hillary was up by at least 11 points in most polls)

THANKS COMEY!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
3. i have the tune of alanis morrisette's thank you with the lyrics of thank you comey
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jul 2017

thank you russia, stuck in my head now

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
4. What annoys me is that the various polls included both the head to head question
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jul 2017

and the favorability of each. I looked at the crosstabs where I could see them on a small number of the polls. They never bothered to look at that small group. Obviously, in any poll, the sample size for that small segment would be very small. However, any polling outfit taken those respondents over say all the October polls, the number would have been high enough to be interesting.

The FIRST time I heard the way they voted was from the exit polls.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. That's exactly who they're talking to when they bring up Hillary
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jul 2017

They are counting on a sentiment of "yeah he's a terrible president, but at least she's not in the WH."

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
9. I think the reason so many went Trump of those who disliked both
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jul 2017

One is that many people were resistant to the whole Bush/Clinton thing. After Shrub did such a bad job, I really think many just were not going to vote for Hillary no matter what.

Two, for many whites we were just coming off 8 years of the First Black President. And even if they voted for him and generally supported him, they were not ready to do a First again and wanted a 'traditional' white male.

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