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(1,798 posts)brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Then to actually replace the law with their own full-blown plan, Republicans reportedly believe they will have to go through regular Senate order rather than the special reconciliation process meaning theyll need 60 votes. That means at least eight Senate Democrats in addition to all the factions described above would have to agree to enact a replacement.
BzaDem
(11,142 posts)approved for reconciliation, and passed in 2015. (Obama vetoed it.)
It does not repeal the regulations (which would need 60 votes), but does repeal the funding (including the exchange subsidies and Medicaid expansion).
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)For a FULL repeal -- including parts of the bill that have nothing to do with the budget -- they need 60 votes.
RandySF
(58,835 posts)McCain is out so the leaves 99 senators present and voting,
brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Reconciliation (51 votes) applies to financial items: e.g. tax rates and Federal contributions. POLICY elements (lifetime spending caps, pre-existing conditions, required insurance elements) require 60 votes to pass cloture.
Kaleva
(36,303 posts)There'd be no way the bill would pass the Senate if that were to be true.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,318 posts)---snip---
This approach involves using the version of the GOP health plan passed by the House in May, the American Health Care Act, as the vehicle for a Senate vote on the repeal-only measure. The amendment McConnell is talking about wouldnt fully repeal Obamacare, as that would require 60 votes, and there are only 52 Republican senators. Instead, as The Hill explains, it would damage Obamacare as much as possible under the reconciliation process, which only takes 50 votes:
"The measure guts the law by repealing authority for the federal government to run healthcare exchanges, and scrapping subsidies to help people afford plans bought through those exchanges. It zeros out the penalties on individuals who do not buy insurance and employers who do not offer health insurance."
The idea is that once Republicans start the clock on turning Obamacare into an actual failure (which conveniently, will take place after the midterms), they can force a few Democrats to go along with the amazing GOP replacement plan (which they havent come up with yet).
As McConnell notes, Republicans already used this process to pass an Obamacare repeal bill, and only two GOP senators Susan Collins and Mark Kirk were opposed. However, that was back in 2015, when Republicans knew Obama would just use his veto to save his signature health law.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/trumpcare-as-we-know-it-is-dead.html
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so the hope is that enough Republican senators will continue to realise how destructive repeal would be, both the people and to their chances of re-election:
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Gothmog
(145,264 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)Gothmog
(145,264 posts)Link to tweet
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