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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFuck! Just Crash The Whole Health Care System. Let Cards Fall Where They May.
McConnell & Company might as well crash the entire system get it over. Then we can pick up their pieces. These POS. Then it will be time for pitch forks. McDonnell first. Just sick of their crap.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)it failed.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)But he said he will be ....."angry"...... if it doesn't pass.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)benefits and useless at doing anything to benefit the majority of the population. They constantly bring the US down.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Anyone who has followed his Career,only one thing makes this Guy tick and that is Power.
This past Election was all about the Oligarchs taking over the Government for their own use.
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)The entire episode is completely and totally racist. They will kill their own supporters just to get back as Obama, Blacks and Hispanics. Racial hatred is what this bill is really all about. Yet no one will just say it.
davekriss
(4,628 posts)...if we're witnessing the resurgence of eugenics in America. You know, they only need so many people to cut their lawns and vacuum their pools. Robots build the rest (or increasingly will). The rest of us are "takers", or "useless eaters" and "cannon fodder" as their fathers used to say. Republican fix for health care in America? Die fast, lower classes.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Framing this healt care issue as something that affects minorities is a mistake. It affects everyone. Dems have been very poor on the messaging of this.
moda253
(615 posts)I think the message from dems has been loud and clear that at the very least tens of millions of people will lose healthcrae and many many people are going to die because of it.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)the GOP on it. They are using code words like "able bodied" being on Medicaid and pushing work requirements when many people on Medicaid are already working even numerous jobs. They still imply blacks and hispanics and illegal by the shape of their memes .
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Humans are, after all, among the dumbest animals on the planet. Sometimes it just a two-by-four between the eyes to make an impression on them.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Warpy
(111,367 posts)that is exactly what will happen. There will be no care to be had because hospitals will go bankrupt if their only patients are the well off and preferably male. Without the hospitals, there will be little infrastructure for diagnostic tests.
And the drug war will ensure we all wring the last drop of misery from being ignored to death.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Kathy M
(1,242 posts)but what has Bernie been doing ? Campaigning has he not , he was just in Kentucky last week . I am waiting for Mcconnell bill to go down then maybe Bernie will enter ........ He did say he was going to enter bill after health debate was over........ Have seen McConnell snicker a few times to a question ..... to make me think something else is going on behind the scenes . Time will tell after vote .
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)could be decades...thousands...millions die...how about saving the ACA because if we lost it...we won't get single payer.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)we can repair, improve and expand. It is always going to be a battle. We have has Social Security almost 100 years and there are those like baby bush who want to change it to the stock market.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)there will be nothing left...our only hope is to save the ACA. Even if we got the majority...we need a super majority and the presidency...we may be years away from having this.
ck4829
(35,093 posts)You might just save a life... we certainly know Trumpcare won't.
http://tpalladium.freeforums.net/board/20/preventive-medicine
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)Ya, that's the ticket - eat more brocolli and you won't get cancer. I hear kales' good for that too. Just don't tell any repubs to eat brocolli because they hate having the "nanny state" tell them what to do.
Seriously, isn't that like blaming someone who gets sick that they could have done something to not get sick?
A cheaper health care policy aimed at the young and healthy will not include annual testing that catches issues before they become life-threatening. You can feel fine and healthy and still have cancer for quite a while before it's to late to do anything. A lot of illnesses you can't prevent, but if you catch the early enough you can survive...if you can afford the tests and proceedures that your cheap policy won't cover.
ck4829
(35,093 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)And repubs blame people for being sick.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)If I really thought we'd win in 2018, wouldn't worry about what Senate does because as the bills stand now, the replacement wouldn't kick in until 2019 and beyond. That would give a Democratic Congress a chance to rectify things. But, I ain't counting on 2018.
The let it burn view got us Trump.
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,110 posts)And there will be no pieces to pick up. Thanks so much for being willing to accept her death for political expediency.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Too many innocent people would get caught up.
Vinca
(50,313 posts)Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)Vinca
(50,313 posts)Sad.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)I think he and Paul will be in trouble if they vote for any GOP bill.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)That way they can pass bills like this and still insure they get re-elected.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Neither am I, but I'm not willing to let people suffer and die to prove a political point.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)What the GOP is doing is poison to health care for everyone. It will even screw everyone NOT on ACA. Think of our system as a person being fed arsenic or cyanide. The consequences will be huge. It is like a bomb on an airliners. They are playing with fire and pouring gasoline on America.
They should be afraid for their own well being if they continue. Sorry but they should be facing pitch forks and torches and be terrified.
Yet they are giddy and happy. This crap is more than serious it is God damned murder
cwydro
(51,308 posts)The most reliable voting bloc in the country.
I agree, however, that what they are doing is tantamount to murder.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)And I know more seniors who vote Dem than GOP.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Our dilemma is that Democrats care about what happens to people. The republicans don't have their options handicapped by that bit of compassion and morality.
Iggo
(47,572 posts)I hope you can pick up the pieces before the crashed system kills too many people.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)I get that you're infuriated with the way they're playing politics with people's lives, but make no mistake, if we "crash the whole system," people are going to die. And if they get their way, people are going to die too. They have to be made to understand that the ONLY way to go about this is to fix what's wrong. But we're dealing with a group of people intent on driving the car into a tree. And truthfully, I don't know that the Republican plan and "crashing the whole system" are really all that different.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Remember we are dealing with a bunch of blood thirsty killers in all actuality. Why we don't just terrorize the bastards I do not know. They just do not get what they are up to. Racial hatred is blinding them. All they want is to kill of even the memory of Obama.
pnwmom
(109,000 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Will he take the place of someone guaranteed to die because of lack of health care by giving all his possessions so that they may be treated? Even if that means he starves to death himself?
I have absolutely no respect for anyone who claim to be on the left, yet advocate a 'let it all burn down so we may rebuild it perfectly' kind of attitude. It's a sociopathic attitude, because they don't care for the hundreds of thousands who will die because of it.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)ananda
(28,879 posts)It's what their puppetmasters, the filthy rich, want.