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RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:39 PM Jul 2017

Do you think 45's corruption will drag Pence down too? Cabinet members?

I believe Manafort, Jared and Jr. will be charged. Pence has already lawyered up. This rotton fish goes way beyond the head.

Who else is part of the walking dead?

45 will try to pardon everyone, that is until he is impeached. His successors will try too, until the weight of public opinion shames them to put country in front of party.

My best guess...and yours?



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Do you think 45's corruption will drag Pence down too? Cabinet members? (Original Post) RiverStone Jul 2017 OP
Pence is as dirty as Drumpf although he probably is not a p***y-grabber. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #1
pence is a true believer madokie Jul 2017 #5
I am not an atheist about hoo-hoos. Been in a lot more of those than churches. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #6
a funeral is the last time I darkened a church door madokie Jul 2017 #11
Glad you didn't decide to tell me about the other thing. Weddings are about it for me. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #18
Pence is not a pussy-grabber. He is JanetLovesObama Jul 2017 #2
Pence headed the transition team Qutzupalotl Jul 2017 #3
Hard to say, Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #4
I hear as daily evidence grows, Mueller will speed things up RiverStone Jul 2017 #9
Fingers crossed! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2017 #7
I sure hope it drags Pence down. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #8
Lots of trump-rusky-republikers furtheradu Jul 2017 #10
rec that!! RiverStone Jul 2017 #13
Ha! rec You! furtheradu Jul 2017 #15
I don't think it will take Pence down marylandblue Jul 2017 #12
And it may go to the SCOTUS RiverStone Jul 2017 #17
I think Pence was smart enough to insulate himself, and Congress will help him marylandblue Jul 2017 #21
If he does a "Gerald Ford" for Trump... dubyadiprecession Jul 2017 #14
Need know only one thing. Pence recommended as VP by Manafort. Sneederbunk Jul 2017 #16
Maybe we will have to do that ourselves. murielm99 Jul 2017 #19
NY AG will be the Plan B in the case of *45 handing out Federal Pardons... MedusaX Jul 2017 #20
I'd love to see it bring in Ryan and McConnell Generic Brad Jul 2017 #22
It should. He was head of transition so idea that Flynn Panich52 Jul 2017 #23
I am not so sure 45's corruption will even bring him down. Just a few minutes ago doc03 Jul 2017 #24

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. a funeral is the last time I darkened a church door
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jul 2017

before that about 40 years ago was my friends wedding. I was best man so I had to show up


I don't do many funerals but most that do happen here are in the funeral home or graveside

Qutzupalotl

(14,320 posts)
3. Pence headed the transition team
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jul 2017

that hired (and failed to vet) Flynn. Plus Pence was Manafort's pick for some reason that has yet to come out. So, probably?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Hard to say,
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jul 2017

all depends on how fast Mueller and his team moves.. Appears the GOP is running the Clock and will not move on Trump or Pence. Hunch is there will be a Civil Case that takes Trump and Pence both out. Read some where that the GOP is counting on Pardons to save their hides.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
9. I hear as daily evidence grows, Mueller will speed things up
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jul 2017

Jared adds 100 Russian names to his form. His disregard for the truth is so compelling, he is a security risk. Booted or charged, he will not last long at the White House.

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
10. Lots of trump-rusky-republikers
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jul 2017

Ck out today's thread from the awwwwwsome Malaise, re: those bought & paid for by ruskies.
I BELIEVE a whole mess of 'em are going DOWN.
YAY, TEAM MUELLER!!!

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. I don't think it will take Pence down
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:50 PM
Jul 2017

They will do everything they can to insulate Pence. And I don't know if Trump will pardon everyone either. Loyalty is a one way street for him. If others are charged, he will blame them and say he knew nothing about it. Maybe he will pardon his own family, but that's about it. If he pardons too many people, they can be forced to testify against him. Also there are a lot of people who could be implicated in this. It wasn't a small operation. There could be dozens of indictments.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
17. And it may go to the SCOTUS
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think 45's team is/was smart enough to insulate anyone. Truly, bumbling fools all!

Their arrogance will eventually catch up with them. Hope you're right on with many indictments!

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
20. NY AG will be the Plan B in the case of *45 handing out Federal Pardons...
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jul 2017

Plus... there is some question as to the use of pardons for treasonous acts...

Yes, I know there exists an ongoing argument regarding
treason - no treason ...
war -no war - ...
retroactive declaration of war - ...
cyber attack equals act of war - ...
Etc...

Regardless,
KGOP funneled all kinds of rubles through the campaign...which means a few people helped that take place
Plus there are those KGOP who have recently joined the Kremlin klan in order to have access to weaponized voter data in 2018 2020
And those who have helped to cover-up after the fact....
And those who were stupid enough to think it would be ok to
misrepresent the truth on security clearance docs &/or other official submissions...

Plenty of unlawful acts committed &
plenty of charges available to match!!

*45 may actually fulfill 1 promise...
as the swamp will likely be drained by the time this is over.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
22. I'd love to see it bring in Ryan and McConnell
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jul 2017

They knew. They profited. They have placed other co-conspirators in charge of key committees to squelch the truth.

I want the real truth to come out and pull down everyone who was in on it in any capacity whatsoever.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
23. It should. He was head of transition so idea that Flynn
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jul 2017

fired f/ lying to him is farfetched. Besides, Pence has his own Russian connections.

Bill Moyers
A Timeline: Pence’s Role in the White House’s Russia-Related Mess
The vice presidential edition of our Trump-Russia timeline.
BY STEVEN HARPER | JULY 11, 2017

http://billmoyers.com/story/timeline-pences-role-white-houses-russia-related-mess/


Time
Vice President Mike Pence Met Privately With Top Russian Cleric
Elizabeth Dias
Updated: May 12, 2017 8:55 AM ET | Originally published: May 11, 2017
http://time.com/4776717/mike-pence-russian-cleric-hilarion-alfeyev/

doc03

(35,358 posts)
24. I am not so sure 45's corruption will even bring him down. Just a few minutes ago
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jul 2017

I heard a report on Trump voters in Indiana, one of them said maybe if he killed someone in cold blood she may
change her mind.

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