"I asked Trump voters in Michigan about the Russia investigation. They said it's fake news"

[pstokely]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/10/15904600/trump-russia-investigation-michigan-supporters

[arthritisR_US]

1. The only thing fake is their intelligence. nt

[Kablooie]

2. Yep and the RW propaganda machine will keep them thinking that way

So it's very unlikely that Trump's poll numbers will drop to where the GOP considers doing their job.

[betsuni]

3. The area has "quite a bit of money" and "almost entirely white."

No surprise there.

[irisblue]

4. Geez those people are dumber then I can imagine. nt

[pstokely]

5. this is your brain on Faux news

[Orrex]

7. And these are the people to whom we're supposed to "reach out"

Facts and evidence do not convince them. Even personal tragedy won't necessarily sway them, because I've seen them simply blame their Trump-induced hardships on Obama.


These voters are not worth the effort it would take to persuade them.

[KitSileya]

11. I agree with you.

Trump voters are not worth the effort to try to convince. We're much better off talking to the disenfranchised - those unable to register to vote because of the onerous processes in many states, those crosschecked off voter lists etc. Let us use our money to reach out to these people, to streamline their registration process and make it as painless as possible. If it would be legal, perhaps a non-profit, non-partisan organisation could be started in each state that would even reimburse people for lost wages due to voting registration - go out publicly to get both democratic and republican state senators and congresspeople on board, leaning heavily on the patriotic, democratic message to shame the Rs who know they only win if turn-out's low into participating.

Trying to tailor our approach to the white working class voters who voted for Trump is a lost cause, and they don't deserve the money or energy needed to get them. Disenfranchised minority voters do deserve it.

[Orrex]

12. Great post!

You've identified the perennial failing, I think: we bust our asses to win over a small number of far-from-certain center- and right-voters while ignoring thousands upon thousands of willing but disenfranchised voters, not to mention the countless discouraged voters who stay away from the polls.


But by all means, let's coddle the racists for the precious white votes!

[GusBob]

13. I will go you one further

Anyone who voted for trump is a traitor to our country.

[Orrex]

14. I'm on board with that, as long as...

we agree (reluctantly) that they don't meet the Constitutional definition of treason, they are certainly (if colloquially) traitors to the spirit of the republic.

[GusBob]

15. I hear you mate, implications be (almost) damned

Don't "lock 'em up"......smoke 'em out and point 'em out and damn them for their ignorance

Deep down you have to reckon they are ashamed of their support for a Russian stooge. The vast majority of them went thru the cold war and cheered when Reagan stood up to Gorbachov

May their souls be rented and torn asunder

[YCHDT]

8. Any polling on Russia concerns?! These anecdotal reports from small towns seem funny

[Adrahil]

9. Yeah, I read stuff like this...

And my sympathy drops to zero. Fuck those assholes.

[spanone]

10. it's so fake the house, senate, FBI and an independent counsel are investigating it