Ouch! Video: Man tells Romney he won't vote for a Mormon

[warrior1]

[dionysus]

1. zomg

[The Magistrate]

2. Hell, Ma'am: Here's To A Few Millions More Of the Old Codger!

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

[MADem]

7. The guy is a parasite! nt

[truebrit71]

19. Ooooooooooh I am sooooo stealing that....

...Love it!!!

[Turbineguy]

3. Maybe today's

NAACP speech will change his mind. Still, on the face of it you have to respect the guy.

[Lionessa]

4. With all the reasons not to vote for Rmoney, this one is a bad choice for our side to promote.

I'm an atheist and would love to think that Dems would go to the point of being entirely anti-mythology of all types, however since we don't and since we claim to prefer personal religious freedom, I'm thinkin' we shouldn't promote this aspect of hatred. There are enough legitimate political and direct philosophical points to attack.

I don't think we need to encourage religious bigotry as a reason to not choose Rmoney.

[jberryhill]

6. Why do you not respect the religious beliefs of the guy at the table?

[GarroHorus]

8. .

[Control-Z]

9. That is my question too.

He is entitled to his opinion as much as the next guy. People are allowed to vote for whomever they want for whatever reason they want.

[Lionessa]

11. I didn't say I don't. What I said is that this isn't a good POV for Dems to push.

He's totally free to not vote for whomever for whatever reason tickles his fancy.

[L0oniX]

21. +1

[Control-Z]

10. How is our side promoting it?

Is it part of an ad or something that I missed?

[The Magistrate]

12. As the Man Said, Ma'am: 'It Does Not Matter If the Cat Is Black Or White If It Catches The Mice'

People should vote against Romney for whatever reason most suits them. That he is a Mormon is a reason that will suit many people, most of whom he is counting on to vote for him, and it is perfectly right and proper to cheer their prejudices being put to work in a good cause.

[Lionessa]

14. Cheering prejudice is never okay, in my book. My values, atheist though I am, do not allow for

cheering prejudice, EVER.

WTF?

[jberryhill]

15. Okay, so my religion says gay people are evil

You wouldn't be prejudiced against me because of my religion, now would you?

[Lionessa]

17. That's a different topic. I don't say he should or shouldn't feel that way. I just don't think Dem

should be cheering prejudice like that, when that guy is just as likely to say "I don't vote for colored people, women people, or Democrats" to those on our side. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it looks likely bigotry, not a choice to rebel against those connected with an org that discriminates. It looks like flat out bigotry, and I don't thing we should cheer that, even if it removes a vote from Rmoney.

[The Magistrate]

16. Well, Ma'am: Three Cheers To Any Christian Who Will Not Vote For Mormon Romney!

It may well be the only decent and useful act of their entire lives.

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

[Lionessa]

39. My normally high respect for you is now dropped dramatically.

I'm guessing then it's okay with you when Repubs cheer racists who won't vote for Obama. Otherwise, my respect drops even more.

Granted you probably care less about my respect in this matter, and that's a further reflection on you, so please don't make yourself one that should be entirely ignored because of severe hypocrisy.

[The Magistrate]

40. What Helps Our Side Is Good, Ma'am; What Helps The Other Is Evil And Wrong

I fail to see the difficulty you seem to have with this simple rule....

[Lionessa]

41. I always have problems with hypocrisy. Good Day, and I won't honor with a "sir" you don't deserve

that respect anymore.

[The Magistrate]

42. That, Ma'am, Is Flat And Open Statement Of Position, The Very Opposite Of Hypocrisy

What is in my interest I support openly, and what is not I oppose openly, without apology or pretense.

There are a number of fundamentalist Christians who have serious reservations about voting for a Mormon: more power to them, may they stick to their convictions and refuse to assist a member of a Satanic cult in his quest to mis-rule the United States of America!

There are a number of white people who have serious objections to voting for a black man for President; they are emblematic of all that is wrong and vile in our society, and ought to be damned and shamed as the racist trash they are.

There is no contradiction whatever in these statements, because they aim at achieving the same end, the defeat of the most reactionary elements in our political, social, and economic lives, which is, unreservedly, a good thing, to be sought and work for by whatever means come to hand that promise to be of good use.

[Spoonman]

20. It good to see others that share the same beliefs as I

I too am an atheist, and find cheering prejudice rather repulsive.

I respect many things about the Mormon faith, most especially the value they place on family and community.

All too often I see people on this board display the same behavior they criticize in others.

Those individuals (hypocrites) truly disgust me.

[Lionessa]

25. Exactly!

[L0oniX]

22. So your not prejudice against the Taliban?

[Lionessa]

24. Boy, you hyping strawman folks just go nuts, don't you.

I'm an atheist, I'm prejudice against all mythology. I would still not promote bigotry or cheer it, in order to take down Rmoney, particularly when "we" are always and often correctly frustrated by the other side cheering racism. I just don't think we should embrace their sick tactic.

[L0oniX]

32. ...

[A Simple Game]

38. Exactly. I remember when it was a Catholic that you shouldn't vote for.

Of course I can remember when people used to have reasons to vote for someone instead of against the other someone. I also remember that whoever won, it didn't really make that much difference. It does now.

[DevonRex]

13. Fundies and Repub Mormons only like each other on

the abortion issue. Fine by me if they rip each other to shreds.

[frogmarch]

5. ugh. The old fart probably

wouldn't vote for anyone but a "real" Christian. which by his own definition, he presumably is. He probably wouldn't vote for someone whose skin isn't lily-white either, or for a woman, or for anyone from the LGBT community.

He didn't say, "I won't vote for you because I'm a Democrat," which means the old codger is probably a republican - maybe even a bagger. ugh.

[Poll_Blind]

18. "I'm one person who will not vote for a Jew." "Can I shake your hand anyway?" "NO!"

Maybe the folks cheering this shit on shouldn't have their pom-poms raised quite so high.

PB

[PCIntern]

23. You are right on the money,

it always fascinates me to see these racist/homophobic/anti-(fill-in-the-blank) verbalize this crap to someone's face. But it is never cause for cheering.

It is well to remember that these people are out there in force! As a friend of mine used to say, "Yeah? You're next in the barrel."

[UnrepentantLiberal]

27. Jewish is mostly an ethnicity.

Mormon isn't.

[Poll_Blind]

29. Jewish is not "mostly" an ethnicity. Jewish is a "mostly" a religion. nt

PB

[UnrepentantLiberal]

31. You know what I meant.

Most of the people who follow Judaism are ethnic Jews. You can't say the same for Mormons.

I'm not going to split hairs with you.

[Poll_Blind]

33. I honestly don't get how that changes the repellence level of one comment to the other. (?) nt

PB

[4th law of robotics]

34. Or a Catholic

It will be interesting to see what happens if the democrats put forward a mormon who gets this treatment.

[Poll_Blind]

35. Kennedy received a great deal of pushback for being a catholic.

I remember seeing a documentary which touched on the subject- lots of "The catholics will be controlling the White House!" paranoia.

PB

[4th law of robotics]

36. I know

and most people here would think that was inappropriate. Right?

[Deep13]

26. I won't either...

...but it's only because of the specific Mormon who is running. If it were Harry Ried, I'd be okay with it.

[Teamster Jeff]

28. It's freaking hilarious that right wing fundies' must vote for....

either a black man or a mormon. No wonder they're having mental meltdowns.

[JoePhilly]

30. If they vote for a cultist, they know they go straight to hell.

I hope they all stay home to avoid an eternity in the lake of fire!!!!

[BlueCheese]

37. Is this a good thing?

Wouldn't it be a bad thing if someone were to refuse to vote for someone who is Muslim?

In many ways, Romney's candidacy is historic, in a manner similar to Kennedy or Lieberman. If elected, he'd be the first president who isn't a mainstream Christian in the Protestant/Catholic sense. It's been mostly overlooked in this election.

It will be an empty triumph if our party wins on the votes of the prejudiced.

[xfundy]

43. Does DU ever issue news releases?

It would be excellent if DU took a stand that voting any for or against a candidate based on their religion is bigotry. Send it out to Fox Noise, WNutD, conservative media and th' librul media. It would be interesting to see who would print/mention it, and could result in more ppl coming to check out DU.

[Nye Bevan]

44. I'm not going to cheer religious bigotry.

If Herman Cain was running against Hillary Clinton, and some guy said he wouldn't vote for Cain because he was black, I wouldn't condone that either.