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Wow. Yesterday's NYT editorial hit Romney HARD on his tax returns (Original Post) Marzupialis Jul 2012 OP
Mr. Outsource/Offshore's tax evasion problem isn't going away, it's growing... Spazito Jul 2012 #1
I think Repubs are happy this is all coming out now. Waltons_Mtn Jul 2012 #2
I very much doubt they are happy Tom Rinaldo Jul 2012 #4
I highly doubt it. I suspect by October, there will be the BIG surprises coming out... Spazito Jul 2012 #6
I truly hope you are right.. um.. correct. Waltons_Mtn Jul 2012 #12
where else will the MSM shine the spotlight magical thyme Jul 2012 #14
They will shine the spotlight away from him. Waltons_Mtn Jul 2012 #18
they can't shine the spotlight away from him. it's not in their genes. magical thyme Jul 2012 #23
The key is to implant the facts around tax evasion on the part of Romney... Spazito Jul 2012 #16
I agree. But implanting facts into the MSM is not a Dem strong point. Waltons_Mtn Jul 2012 #20
The only people who watch Fox news are already either going to vote for Romney or... Spazito Jul 2012 #22
Doesn't Romney have to file his 2011 taxes in October? catbyte Jul 2012 #25
Romney is the perfect candidate to gauge just how lost we are in the country BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #3
And then you have Lindsey coming out and saying that finding loopholes is A-OK!!! Voters are monmouth Jul 2012 #8
+1, they're trying to either trial balloon or set a stage for rMoneys tax cheating uponit7771 Jul 2012 #10
+1,000,000.....I thought to myself if we elect him then we're really done on so many fronts uponit7771 Jul 2012 #9
From your keyboard to God's ears, BG: catbyte Jul 2012 #26
he wants endless wars riverwalker Jul 2012 #5
May I humbly but strongly suggest that EVERYONE post this article EVERYWHERE! Push this story NOW!! Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #7
K & R nt abelenkpe Jul 2012 #11
I am starting to believe that the O campaign has an ace hifiguy Jul 2012 #13
Should've added Bain's relationshiop to hate radio, to let people know their heroes are paid shills. freshwest Jul 2012 #15
The link no longer works. I'll try and find the op-ed. Thanks! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #17
It works again. Wow, Rmoney is in the deep shit. n/t gkhouston Jul 2012 #27
NYT not happy with Romney flamingdem Jul 2012 #19
Comments after the article at the link are good, too. senseandsensibility Jul 2012 #21
in other words, he's a tax dodger like clarence thomas. pansypoo53219 Jul 2012 #24

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
1. Mr. Outsource/Offshore's tax evasion problem isn't going away, it's growing...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jul 2012

and I love it. He lies and lies and lies, silly, transparent, easily proven lies, which only makes the issue worse and the investigations about his lies even deeper.

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
2. I think Repubs are happy this is all coming out now.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jul 2012

By October Feaux news will have the right wing foaming at the mouth because the President sits on the wrong side of his limousine. All of Rmoney financial problems will be long forgotten.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
4. I very much doubt they are happy
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

All of these negative reports about Romney and money are defining him in an unflattering way to the public before he can define himself on his preferred terms. This is electoral gold for Democrats. It is what helped sink Kerry in 2008.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
6. I highly doubt it. I suspect by October, there will be the BIG surprises coming out...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jul 2012

what is happening now is preparing the ground for what is to come. It is not the rabid Fox watchers that are the focus for these revelations and those yet to come, it is the Independents and the polls are already showing there has been a negative response to Romney on this issue.

As long as Romney refuses to release his previous returns, this will grow not shrink, imo.

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
12. I truly hope you are right.. um.. correct.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jul 2012

The problem is that "the general public" gets tired of the same news over and over. That is why repukes get away with just ignoring real issues until the new diversion comes along. The news entertainment industry knows they have to keep it fresh otherwise the mob looses interest. My point was the MSM will try to shine the spotlight on something else. Maybe something that will put the Dems on the defense. That is what Rmoney is looking forward to. Maybe I was wrong to say they are happy about it, but I don't think they are too worried either, imo.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. where else will the MSM shine the spotlight
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:37 AM
Jul 2012

No matter where on Rmoney you shine that light, you highlight everything that is wrong with the US.

He abuses animals
His wife justifies his animal abuse
He likes firing people
He abuses people
He's a job destroyer/job offshorer
He abuses small businesses
His pampered wife was sued for fraud involving animal abuse
His pampered wife likes to see other mothers forced to work while raising their children
He's a tax avoider to the nth degree
He wants to fire the fire fighters...even as we experience record wild fires

Pick a topic, any topic...and he is a walking disaster for the GOP and, more importantly, for the country

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
18. They will shine the spotlight away from him.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jul 2012

Any small mistake made by a Dem right now will be blown up to be national disaster status. They are just waiting for a Dem to text pictures of their anatomy or anything (as I suggested by the sitting on the wrong side of the limo line.) I guess I'm just a pessimist.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
23. they can't shine the spotlight away from him. it's not in their genes.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jul 2012

and it doesn't matter if they try to shine the spotlight anywhere else. it's election season. It naturally gravitates back to him.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
16. The key is to implant the facts around tax evasion on the part of Romney...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jul 2012

which is what is happening now. It's 'defining' Romney in the minds of the key target group, the Independents, so when the REAL campaign begins in September/October the belief that Romney is untrustworthy, a tax evader, etc, is already in the minds of those who are not rabid right-wingers.

The repubs are NOT happy about it, they KNOW what happens when the opposition succeeds in defining their candidate in negative terms before the candidate can provide their own 'definition' of themselves.

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
20. I agree. But implanting facts into the MSM is not a Dem strong point.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:13 PM
Jul 2012

And feaux news has never really cared about facts.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
22. The only people who watch Fox news are already either going to vote for Romney or...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jul 2012

stay home. Fox news is irrelevant in the long run when it comes to reaching the key voters who will decide this election, imo.

As to "implanting facts into the MSM...not a Dem strong point", I'd say they are doing a damn fine job of it or else we wouldn't be talking about Romney's tax evasion/outsourcing nor would there be articles such as the one in the OP.

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
25. Doesn't Romney have to file his 2011 taxes in October?
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jul 2012

I thought that's what they said and his extension runs out in October--unless he stalls even further and requests another one.

What a fucking crook.




Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Taz, Nigel, and new baby brother Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. Romney is the perfect candidate to gauge just how lost we are in the country
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:31 AM
Jul 2012

Coming on the heels of a Wall Street-led recession and deficits fueled by tax cuts we never could afford, the GOP nominates a LBO debt pirate who pays capital gains rates when he's not avoiding taxes entirely.

A major political party in a sane country would have weeded this guy out a long time ago. Instead, he was the best they had to offer.

Will people care? The election will be close, but enough presently undecided voters will, I think, not be able pull the lever for this guy.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
8. And then you have Lindsey coming out and saying that finding loopholes is A-OK!!! Voters are
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jul 2012

listening to it..

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
26. From your keyboard to God's ears, BG:
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jul 2012

"Will people care? The election will be close, but enough presently undecided voters will, I think, not be able pull the lever for this guy."

And I don't even believe in God.





Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Taz, Nigel, and new baby brother Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
5. he wants endless wars
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jul 2012

that he, his family, his children, do not fight in. Yet he avoids taxes that pay veterans benefits for those who fight for him. Rmoney and kin are parasites.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
7. May I humbly but strongly suggest that EVERYONE post this article EVERYWHERE! Push this story NOW!!
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jul 2012

We need to define Romney as sleazy and predatory corporate raider and a crooked tax evader. And we need to do it now. This is a story that must go far and wide at all cost!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. I am starting to believe that the O campaign has an ace
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jul 2012

up its sleeve on this issue, as another DUer posted. I further suspect that that ace is proof that Mittwit has basically paid no taxes at all for years.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. Should've added Bain's relationshiop to hate radio, to let people know their heroes are paid shills.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

All these diversions to propagandize and confuse while the Rushs and Becks are hiding the facts of who is screwing them ..

Thanks, good find, Marzupialis.

pansypoo53219

(20,978 posts)
24. in other words, he's a tax dodger like clarence thomas.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jul 2012

this is theft from the body politic, because HE NEEDS THAT EXTRA MILLION OR TWO FOR BILLS.

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