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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:03 PM Jul 2017

Fake Donald Trump's Primary Problem Is That He Can't Remember

He can't remember what he promised during the campaign. He can't remember what he said about Muslims before his travel ban. He can't remember the discussions with Russia he had, and what his staff told him about them. He can't remember what the Constitution says, even if he read it last week.

Our Fake POTUS has short term memory deficits. When he got off that plane yesterday, he forgot where he had been and what he's supposed to do when he gets off Air Force One. So, he walked right past the open limo door at the bottom of the steps and wandered off. Someone had to turn him around and redirect him to the limo.

It's not a new problem for The Fake Donald, but it's getting worse all the time. He can't remember what he tweeted two days ago, but he can remember how to tweet, because it's something he does regularly. His brain still generates ideas, which he promptly turns into tweets, but he won't remember those tweets when he tweets again.

Donald (The Fake) Trump has no agenda for his European G-20 trip, because he can't remember what it is he's supposed to do there. So, he may shove another head of state aside, as he did on his previous trip, because he can't remember who people are very well, even if he has been introduced to them.

Fake Trump is running on empty, when it comes to memory. So, he acts on impulse, says whatever enters his mind, and contradicts himself frequently. There is literally no way to predict what our Fake President will do in advance, because he can't remember what he planned to do or is supposed to do.

Fake Donald J. Trump is faking it all the time now. He's very dangerous because he cannot remember anything for more than a very brief time, but can remember stuff from long ago, when he was still able to plan and act according to that plan. Our Fake Commander-in-Chief no longer has a plan. If he did have a plan, he can no longer remember what it was.

We have no predictable President. We have only a confused old man being directed by malicious people. But, he can't remember that, either. Fake Donald has no choice but to keep faking it. He simply can't remember things any longer.

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Fake Donald Trump's Primary Problem Is That He Can't Remember (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2017 OP
The benefit of being a complete bullshitter... Orsino Jul 2017 #1
Ver much like my mother with Dementia marylandblue Jul 2017 #2
I am uncomfortable with the links to Dementia.. HipChick Jul 2017 #3
It's impossible to miss Trump's short-term memory deficits. MineralMan Jul 2017 #5
Hard to remember what people say when you aren't listening leftstreet Jul 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #10
Yes. A lot of use older folks are dealing now with aging parents MineralMan Jul 2017 #4
Trump is showing signs of senilty Gothmog Jul 2017 #6
He is perfect Scarsdale Jul 2017 #12
And unfortunately for tRump, we have lots and lots of video of his statements over the years. Grammy23 Jul 2017 #7
The American People will have this hidden from them for MineralMan Jul 2017 #8
But, but Scarsdale Jul 2017 #13
Back in Reagan's term I was not paying quite as close attention to the goings on in DC Grammy23 Jul 2017 #27
He can remember a slight, real or imagined, and hold a grudge. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #9
Reagan had this problem but never admitted to Alzheimer's until out of office. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #11
Agree 100% Timmygoat Jul 2017 #14
Memory for details requires attention loyalsister Jul 2017 #15
In my family (which is Irish) we call this... TygrBright Jul 2017 #16
LOL! Grudges are the last things to be forgotten. MineralMan Jul 2017 #17
Lemme guess. Campbell vs. MacDonald. n/t TygrBright Jul 2017 #20
Campbell vs. MacGregor MineralMan Jul 2017 #21
ahhhh, OK. Them, too. TygrBright Jul 2017 #22
Well, my red-headed friend, my first girlfriend, and I MineralMan Jul 2017 #23
Yup. At some point all the stuff everyone lived through at the same time... TygrBright Jul 2017 #24
But whatever you do, don't suggest that something is wrong with his stupid fucking brain Orrex Jul 2017 #18
Ironic that he's in office solely due to the electoral college, maddiemom Jul 2017 #19
The perfect summary. Delmette2.0 Jul 2017 #25
Come on, give the guy a break! rock Jul 2017 #26
I went to high school and college in Connecticut. Trump was always around. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #28
I think he expected a retinue to greet him with applause WhiteTara Jul 2017 #30

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
1. The benefit of being a complete bullshitter...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jul 2017

...is never having to remember anything.

He may be impaired, but he was never paired, so to speak.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Ver much like my mother with Dementia
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jul 2017

She can play a good game of bridge because she has been playing for years, but she can't remember a conversation from 10 minutes ago. And she can't remember that she can't remember, so she doesn't know she has a problem. At least she believes me when I tell her, but then she forgets again.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. I am uncomfortable with the links to Dementia..
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

I am sure your mother does not have the history of being a BS'er all her life

I'm am just starting down this road with my father, and it's hard to see a loved one being sapped away like that

but Trump is a Con Man...always has been

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. It's impossible to miss Trump's short-term memory deficits.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jul 2017

They're in evidence constantly. It's an observation that people are making more and more frequently.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
29. Hard to remember what people say when you aren't listening
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jul 2017

Narcissists especially have horrid memories because a) they aren't interested in what you're saying unless it's about them, and b) they lie so easily without remorse, they can't keep track of what they themselves said

And yes, I'd think the condition gets far worse with onset dementia

Response to HipChick (Reply #3)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Yes. A lot of use older folks are dealing now with aging parents
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

with dementia at some level or another. My own parents are 92 and will soon be 93. My mother has pretty serious memory deficits now, and I'm noticing some deterioration in my father's memory as well. Trump's problem is pretty obvious if you deal with memory loss on a regular basis with aged relatives.

He should not be in the office he now holds. That seems quite obvious to me, as did Reagan's deterioration should have been obvious to people, even during his first term.

Donald Trump is a Fake President because he can be nothing else. He no longer has the mental capacity for that job, and never really did. He is not running the country, but he is certainly running his mouth. Very dangerous. Sad.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. He is perfect
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jul 2017

for the party of Greedy Old Perverts. McCain, McConnell, Grassley and several others are way past their sharp intellectual prime.That is supposing they ever were "sharp" McCain shows signs of being distracted from the job. We should have a retirement age for these people who stay way too long, making decisions for the rest of us. Lumpy little Johnnie as been itching for more war for years now.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
7. And unfortunately for tRump, we have lots and lots of video of his statements over the years.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jul 2017

Some go back decades, so we have real comparison to how he spoke and phrased his sentences for a long period of time. We know the positions he took, his opinions (at the time), his likes and dislikes. I saw such a comparison of tRump Vs. tRump regarding his relationship with Putin. If you watched the clips that go back 5-7 years ago to recent comments, your head might spin trying to figure out which one reflects the truth. I am not sure even tRump could explain his answers that range from an emphatic YES, Putin and I DO have a relationship to No, I don't know the man.

So the question is whether tRump is really losing his memory, especially his short term memory or if it is a big charade to keep everyone off balance. Or maybe it is a bit of both. If anyone has known someone with memory loss, you know they have good days and bad days. The loss often comes on gradually, which is one reason they often get frustrated about it. One day they may do fine, the next they search for words they knew not long ago. He could also be giving conflicting statements just to make it harder to pin him down. Who knows?

With tRump we are guessing because he has not (to our knowledge) had a thorough mental and physical evaluation by professionals qualified to make an assessment of his condition. We are going by what we are allowed to see and whatever leaks out of the White House. We know his behavior is erratic and often frightening. He seems to have a horrendously volatile temper with a very short fuse. If things were normal in Congress, the process to remove him from office would already be in progress. We are entitled to know what is going on with tRump but fear it will not be revealed before he does a tremendous amount of damage to the reputation of the US and wrecks decades of attempts to really make our country live up to its promise for all of its citizens.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. The American People will have this hidden from them for
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

as long as possible. He'll just not be seen in public much where he could make off the cuff comments that reveal how far he has slipped. They're already doing that to a large degree. These days, you mostly see him reading scripted comments, something he can still do.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
13. But, but
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:15 PM
Jul 2017

Ivanka, while professing to "stay out of politics" claims she would give him a grade of A for the job he is doing. Maybe "dumb" is inherited in the family? Isn't she supposed to be his Political Advisor with an office in the WH? The tRump boys, Beavis and Butthead have shown how sharp they are on several occasions.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
27. Back in Reagan's term I was not paying quite as close attention to the goings on in DC
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jul 2017

as I do now. Now , we have many more ways to find things out than we did back then. When Reagan was sliding into Alzheimer's, it was probably easier to conceal it from the American people, but I am sure there were signs. There is the video of him fumbling for words with Nancy doing a stage whisper which he repeated verbatim. And once he left office, there was less secrecy about his condition. But during his time in office, secrecy was the order of the day.

As you said, any information about trump's true mental or physical health will be hidden or explained away for as long as possible. But there are plenty of signs and symptoms that something is amiss. Those who follow his tweets, Rose Garden ceremonies and speeches (aided by TelePrompTers) and his asides and ad libs all gives clues to his mental state. Many people are watching him and speculating. At some point it will be glaringly obvious that the trolley is off the tracks. I guess the powers that be in the White House are gambling that they can keep a lid on things for a long time and that his sheep won't believe anything is wrong, even if he is caught skipping in the Rose Garden in his scivvies.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
9. He can remember a slight, real or imagined, and hold a grudge.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jul 2017

But that very well could be all that occupies his mind, and everything else goes out the window. So to speak.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
14. Agree 100%
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017

I fear he will provoke a war with N. Korea, and then expect every other country that he has offended to fight for him. Also, how many presidents have had to have assurances that cheering crowds will be bused in for his visit, as are being done in Poland.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
15. Memory for details requires attention
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:25 PM
Jul 2017

He doesn't appear to be interested in doing the job enough to pay attention. He got the applause and the power, and I think that's really all that interests him.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
16. In my family (which is Irish) we call this...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jul 2017

Irish Alzheimer's

"We forget everything but the grudges."

Yes, it's a stereotype.

Yes, it's a generalization and probably terribly unfair.

But I bet many, many people who grew up in Irish families nodded their heads when they read the definition.

Obviously, it's not exclusively linked to Irish heritage.

slyly,
Bright

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. LOL! Grudges are the last things to be forgotten.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jul 2017

Lots of families have long-held grudges that can last through generations. Often, nobody really knows what started the whole thing.

I'm of Scottish heritage. When I was in high school, there was a kid with another Scottish name. He told me right away that his family name hated my family name. I asked why. He had no idea, so we became friends instead.

I have since researched that feud, which dates back to the 16th century. All silliness.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. Campbell vs. MacGregor
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:56 PM
Jul 2017

Funny stuff. Not back in the 16th century, of course, but it was funny in the early 1960s. On the other hand, my first serious high school girlfriend dumped me for my red-headed friend with the rival name. So...maybe...

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
22. ahhhh, OK. Them, too.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jul 2017

George RR Martin didn't make everything up, yanno...

::koff:: #RedWedding ::koff::

amusedly,
Bright

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Well, my red-headed friend, my first girlfriend, and I
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:12 PM
Jul 2017

got together at my 50th reunion and had a huge laugh over all of that nonsense. We were laughing so hard that I had to explain the whole story to my wife, who couldn't figure out what was so funny. I even threw in the old theory about a Viking and one of the MacGregor's female ancestors and how that explained his red hair.

I think we got over all of that feuding stuff. Getting older is sorta fun if you just roll with it.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
24. Yup. At some point all the stuff everyone lived through at the same time...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jul 2017

...becomes a common bond rather than a reason to get all bent.

At least, I think that's how the whole "elder" thing is supposed to work.

hopefully,
Bright

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
18. But whatever you do, don't suggest that something is wrong with his stupid fucking brain
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jul 2017

Because you'll be accused of using "their" tactics, instead of--you know--expressing sincere and legitimate concern that the nominal leader of the free world is not competent to perform the job that he was allegedly elected to perform.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
19. Ironic that he's in office solely due to the electoral college,
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jul 2017

which ALLEDGEDLY is kept around to "save us" from this exact sort of situation.

Delmette2.0

(4,165 posts)
25. The perfect summary.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jul 2017

"We have only a confused old man being directed by malicious people. But, he can't remember that, either."

I'm sorry and frightened for our country.

rock

(13,218 posts)
26. Come on, give the guy a break!
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jul 2017

He lies 72% of the time. How do you expect him to remember what he said AND whether he lied or not!?

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
28. I went to high school and college in Connecticut. Trump was always around.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:02 PM
Jul 2017

He bankrupted more than a few of my Dad's friends. He was always an ass...bad person. But he is so different now...even if you watch video's from just a few years ago, he is completely different...the man is suffering from dementia...some form anyway...could be Alzheimers or it could be his diet. My Gran (type II diabetic) destroyed her brain by eating bread and sweets. The Doctors said excess sugar destroys brains cells.

WhiteTara

(29,716 posts)
30. I think he expected a retinue to greet him with applause
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jul 2017

and when that didn't happen, he went in search of praise.

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