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"Hawaii Five-0" stars Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park have left the CBS show after the network refused to pay them as much as their white costars, Variety reports.
Sources told the outlet that Kim and Park were seeking salaries equal to those of stars Alex O'Loughlin and Scott Caan, but they were unable to reach a deal with the show's producer, CBS Television Studios.
CBS's final offer to the two actors was reportedly "10-15% lower" than the salaries of their two white costars.
A representative for the network told Variety in a statement: "We are so appreciative of Daniel and Grace's enormous talents, professional excellence, and the aloha spirit they brought to each and every one of our 168 episodes. They've helped us build an exciting new Hawaii Five-0, and we wish them all the best and much success in their next chapters. Mahalo and a hui hou."
The CBS reboot of a police procedural drama premiered in 2010, and Kim and Park starred alongside O'Loughlin and Caan for seven seasons.
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http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/The-Asian-stars-of-Hawaii-Five-0-quit-the-show-11263734.php
brush
(53,782 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)to lend support
But then, and I could be wrong, O'Loughlin and Caan could be 'I got mine' jerks
mdbl
(4,973 posts)CBS screwed up on this one. I won't be watching anymore.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And it's been running for seven years?
Was anyone else aware of this?
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)They fucked this up big.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This does seem like a huge screw up from what I am reading about it now.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)It's been airing on CBS
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I'm not a big tv watcher (clearly) but I will check it out.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I assumed this was about some new crappy local channel nighttime show
Augiedog
(2,548 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Damn, I'm watching the most recent season on Netflix right now. This would be not worth watching without Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park. They can't just swap in two other Asian actors and hope we won't notice.
Damn it! There aren't many action shows like this with 2 Asian leads being badass and awesome and all American.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)I'm a huge Lost and BSG fan, and they are why I turned in.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)... if they were smart...For job security. This show will not last long now. Most shows don't when they tinker with the original dynamics of the show.
7962
(11,841 posts)Very few other shows pay everyone the same. Seinfeld & Friends ENDED with equal salaries, but didnt start that way. Big Bang is the top show now for several yrs & only the top 3, Sheldon Penny & Leonard, get the top pay. Look up ANY show; there are pay differences between co-stars.
They're actually lucky they were only 10-15% lower. Now they will have a hard time signing elsewhere because of a rep for being greedy
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)i was shocked when i heard micheal weatherly? was the top paid actor on ncis before he left...would have assumed mark harmon.... Never watch the show but salary discrimination can be a slipper slope unless you can prove the jobs are indeed equal.
in other fields say pro football....a franchise nfl quarterback will make more than a rookie free agent walk on....even tho they both put in equals days work and perform the same drills
hughee99
(16,113 posts)time, so unless that's changed, I tend to agree.
7962
(11,841 posts)Dont know why they had to point out the race either. This stuff happens all the time in the entertainment business.
Hell, you could go back to the 70s and actors would leave over pay equality disputes even then. I think Major Burns on MASH was one of them.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Married With Children in comparison to everyone else. I know how much Carroll O'Connor was getting,it was unbelievable for the times but it couldn't go on without him.
7962
(11,841 posts)theglammistress
(348 posts)Hawaii 5-0 is one of my favorite shows. I always look forward to it on Friday nights.
Kono (Grace Park) was always my favorite character.
I just don't see how this show works without two of the main stars. It's insane. But good for Park and Kim walking away when they weren't being paid their worth.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)I hope the producers hire actual native Hawaiians to play the Hawaiian characters Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park were playing. I always thought Kim and Park were miscast. They are ethnically Korean. Asians of different ethnicities aren't interchangeable, people. Asians do not all look alike. The roles should have gone to native Hawaiians. Maybe they will now.
7962
(11,841 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,390 posts)but that the original characters (played by O'Loughlin and Caan) have more lines and more scenes.
So it goes in show biz.
Just ask women actors how tough it is to get equal pay in the industry, let alone stories featuring women at all.
So, yes, show biz is sexist and racist. Is anyone really surprised by this?
They have just as much screen time and lines and have been the center of major story arcs. I would say, like evidenced in their publicity pic above, it is a co lead of those 4 show. Except for the season where O'Loughlin missed several episodes to fix a substance abuse problem.
mnhtnbb
(31,390 posts)From a HuffPo article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hawaii-five-o-asian-stars-discrimination-cbs_us_595b90c4e4b05c37bb80236f
Kim and Parks reported negotiations highlight a growing battle for pay equality in Hollywood. Shameless star Emmy Rossum fought to be paid more than her co-star William Macy last year, after making less than he did for several seasons. The actress got Macys support, who said she deserves everything. Robin Wright also spoke out last year about her demand to be paid the same as House of Cards co-star Kevin Spacey ― though she told United Airlines in-flight magazine in a June story that shes not sure the equal paycheck ever really materialized.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)This show is very important for a lot of people who are not used to seeing action heroes like this
7962
(11,841 posts)He will get more from the start.
Show business isnt a normal business. An anomaly; the top 3 stars of Big Bang Theory took a cut to give the supporting cast more pay. Which is a lot easier to do when you're getting 24 million a year each; not including rerun residuals
denvine
(802 posts)I liked this show but will now quit watching it. Is there a good way to let CBS know except for the website links that you feel goes nowhere?
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)I can't find a twitter for Grace Park.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)they should have been fighting for the actors.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)The McGarrett character (Alex O'Loughlin) is the main star of the show, as was the case with the original Hawaii 5-0, where Jack Lord played the character.
All of the asian stars did not quit the show, just two did. The show has a large asian cast, including local native Hawaiians playing some of the characters. They need more.
I hope the producers hire actual native Hawaiians to play the Hawaiian characters Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park were playing. I always thought Kim and Park were miscast. They are ethnically Korean. Asians of different ethnicities aren't interchangeable, people. Asians do not all look alike. The roles should have gone to native Hawaiians. Maybe they will now.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Is Danno a star of the show too?
Why should they be considered supporting characters instead of costars? Five-O is a team that works together and helps each other out.
Making America like how it was in 1960s is how Trump and his supporters would like things to be because it benefits a certain type of person. Others have moved forward since our world has changed and it's important to see Asians as Americans and action heroes.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Like I said, I thought Park was miscast.
I agree it is important to see Asian Americans as action heroes. The original show was actually really good about hiring native Hawaiians. Jack Lord loved Hawaii and Hawaiians. He lived there (and died there). He would go to local plays and shows to find actors for the show.
http://www.rafu.com/2012/01/into-the-next-stage-why-the-original-%E2%80%98hawaii-five-0%E2%80%99-was-better-at-reflecting-the-50th-state-than-the-current-series/
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Had been an actual Honolulu Police Department officer. So he had his bona fides.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)His name was shortened by CBS.
Also his son appears in the reboot a few times as the HPD chief
mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)and a few others. I loved the original 5-0
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)...they would just introduce new characters.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)The original Hawaii 5-0 actually hired more Native Hawaiian actors:
THE ORIGINAL HAWAII FIVE-0 WAS BETTER AT REFLECTING THE 50TH STATE THAN THE CURRENT SERIES
http://www.rafu.com/2012/01/into-the-next-stage-why-the-original-%E2%80%98hawaii-five-0%E2%80%99-was-better-at-reflecting-the-50th-state-than-the-current-series/
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)since they are 10% of Hawaii now. Census includes Samoans and other pacific islanders in with native Hawaiians.
Asians are the biggest demographic in Hawaii. Also mixed race people are a very large demographic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii#Demographics
MariaCSR
(642 posts)And they were able to get higher salaries from nbc when they demanded it.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Do you even watch the show?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)en you get past the traditional seven season run, the studio and not the broadcaster pays more of the cost of the production and the actors. So you tend to see strange deals made at that time or some of the supporting/main cast depart. No doubt there are bigger issues here in the two of them being of Asian background getting paid less, especially as I read that Caan doesn't even like being in Hawaii and isn't in as many episodes, but this is also the kind of wonkiness that comes after the end of the standard seven year run for a successful show.
What SHOULD have happened is that both white male leads would have stepped up to either take a cut to compensate or refuse to go forward without the other two getting what they should for it. We saw that happen with Big Bang Theory where the prime trio took cuts for the supporting cast to get a bump up in order to keep everything working right.
We saw it in the movies as well as Robert Downey Jr. showed the other "Avengers" actors how to secure better deals as their tenure went on.
Racism is most definitely involved, structural/institutionalized to be sure, but it's not JUST that.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)When he found out (via Walter Koenig) that she wasn't making as much as the male crew members, he took it straight to upper management and they fixed it.
Leonard Nimoy was known to do stuff like that.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Grins
(7,217 posts)...was because of Grace Park. Too beautiful not to watch.
You screwed up, CBS!
mucifer
(23,545 posts)or do they still say that on the new show? I don't watch it.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)maybe once or twice on the first episode.
Mostly Danno and McGarrett have a lot of irritating banter that drags on for too long and is worth fast forwarding to get to the action scenes.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)First of which was casting a female Kono. The idiotic ramblings of misogynists who protested that the original Kono was male, only served to get more publicity for the show and more viewers who like this sort of thing.
And there are plenty of women in other important leadership roles too in the state government, military, and other law enforcement.
But one of the coolest things I've seen is the large number of female villains on this show. I love female villains who are delightfully evil on a cold blooded and well planned out quest for vengeance. The thought processes of female villains are very complex and they put a lot of time into preparation. And sexism surrounding the suspected criminals is an important part of many plots. "I thought we were searching for a male serial killer? Well, times have changed, try to keep up."
Hawaii is about 26% white. If anyone feels there is too much diversity on the show, you wouldn't have to look very hard to find shows with less diverse leads as action heroes.
Mosby
(16,316 posts)I looked around and couldn't find anything.
I hope the two actors know what they are doing.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)Literally everyone said they only watch it because of them, and won't be watching now.
I honestly think quite a few people like me were Lost and/or BSG fans, and decided to watch it because of these two actors. I knew Caan was in Varsity Blues, but had no idea who O'Loughlin was.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)BSG was one of the best tv serials of all time. In my very humble opinion of course.
I watched the first season of Hawaii 5-0, and have seen an episode off and on since then. I won't be watching it anymore.
Catmusicfan
(816 posts)blueseas
(11,575 posts)Pay the people!
WoonTars
(694 posts)...they weren't the stars of the show, that's why they weren't offered the big bucks.
This is how showbiz works, nothing to do with racism.
I'll still watch the show, love the scenery!
demmiblue
(36,855 posts)Sorry for the delay in hearing from me, but like you Im sure, my July 4th holiday was busy with friends and family. Im back now and didnt want to let any more time go by without reaching out. By now many of you have heard the news, and Im sad to say it is true. I will not be returning to Hawaii Five-0 when production starts next week. Though I made myself available to come back, CBS and I werent able to agree to terms on a new contract, so I made the difficult choice not to continue.
As sad as it feels to say goodbye, what I feel most is gratitude. I am so deeply thankful to our crew, writers and everyone associated with the show and especially the cast, who have been nothing but supportive through this entire process. They and the crew have been my second family for seven years and I wish them nothing but success for season 8 - and beyond.
I also want to say thank you to Peter Lenkov, Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and everyone at CBS. I will always be grateful for their faith in me to bring Chin Ho Kelly to life. As an Asian American actor, I know first-hand how difficult it is to find opportunities at all, let alone play a well developed, three dimensional character like Chin Ho. I will miss him sincerely.
What made him even more special is that he was a representative of a place my family and I so dearly love. It has been nothing short of an honor to be able to showcase the beauty and people of Hawaii every week, and I couldnt be prouder to call these islands home. To my local community, mahalo nui loa.
Finally, I want to thank all of you, the fans. Ive read your messages and I cant tell you how much theyve meant to me. I never, ever forget that YOU are the reason Hawaii Five-0 is the success that it is, and interacting with you online and in person around the world(!) has been one of the greatest joys of this entire experience. Im so sorry we wont be continuing this journey together.
Ill end by saying that though transitions can be difficult, I encourage us all to look beyond the disappointment of this moment to the bigger picture. The path to equality is rarely easy. But I hope you can be excited for the future. I am. 5-0 continues on after one of its strongest seasons. Ive got new acting projects on the horizon, and as a producer, my company, 3AD, has its first show, THE GOOD DOCTOR, set to air this fall on ABC. I hope youll tune in. Theres a lot to look forward to and Ill be sure to share it with you. In the meantime,
Aloha, thank you and Happy Independence Day!
-DDK
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MariaCSR
(642 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)getting lesser pay? Poor eyesight?
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)those other guys...I don't even know them. I don't watch the show but I know Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park. Maybe its because I am Asian too.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)I have heard of all of them. Have seen Caan in more than the others. The rest, about equal fame to me.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I hope CBS ratings fall and I hope Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park better parts and better pay as they should.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)I know some Asian people, so I will ask them their opinion this weekend.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)make them take you out for some real Asian food... not that stuff in the can...bleh...
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Korean BBQ Chicken
Chinese Clams in Black Bean Sauce
From the Philippines, Sizzling Shrimp Gambas