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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreen Party voters are not going to vote Dem or green based on what we say about Stein here on DU
So stop please with the we have to be nice to Jill Stein and Green Party voters meme.
Those fools are gone to us if they care what we post here.
Oh and Fuck Jill Stein and yes I feel better now!
oasis
(49,389 posts)YCHDT
(962 posts)... than the deplorable
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Face it, she's pretty irrelevant. There's always going to be a Jill Stein getting 1% of the vote, most of whom wouldn't vote otherwise anyway.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
In every race, Johnson scored three times the votes than Stein, and even more so in the close swing states.
Had Johnson not run, Trump's lead in those states would have been by a hundred or two hundred thousands more.
This false narrative, that Stein cost the election is complete counter-productive bullshit. It's a fact that comes into play whenever there are more than two parties running in an election. And the strange thought that all of Stein's voters would have swung to the Democratic Party is complete lunacy. There are dozens of factors as to why the election turned out the way it did and this false Stein narrative is such a minute component.
Granted, Stein was a Trojan Horse candidate, but that doesn't explain why select Democratic strongholds outside of Philly and elsewhere had droppages of of thousands of voters in each.
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)green party.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Maven
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angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Sorry all mankind, and even kittens, for that matter, are subject to scrutiny here, and deservedly so!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)And the assholes who vote third party. When I go on one of my political rants to my husband about Trump--the crescendo is ~always~ about the dumbass third party voters who made him possible.
So yeah, fuck Jill Stein.
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nikibatts
(2,198 posts)philly_bob
(2,419 posts)if Sanders had been Democratic nominee?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)elias7
(4,007 posts)It seems to me the should be great overlap between Dems and Greens, except for the fact that I don't hear from the Greens except during presidential elections when they seem to be choosing to be spoilers. Perhaps they are not getting any attention in media, perhaps they are not engaged enough. I think it's a fair stance to view Steins candidacy as a spoiler, for not seeing the great danger of Trump and pulling all stops to defeat him. I'd make nice with some acknowledgement of a need to bridge idealism with pragmatism.