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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere is an unnerving article with a VERY scary ending (as in "legalized murder of Democrats").
The one one incident is bad enough:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/not-racist-member-of-white-privilege-club-tries-to-run-over-trumpcare-protesters-with-motorcycle/
But the last sentence is deserving of a complete story in itself:
"Republican lawmakers in several states, including North Carolina, North Dakota and Tennessee, have introduced legislation to protect drivers from civil liability if they hit protesters with vehicles."
WTF?????
So, if you want to run over and/or kill a protester with a vehicle in NC, ND or TN, it's fine and dandy as long as it can be determined they were protesting something. Why don't Republicans just issue Confederate uniforms and paint the stars and bars on the vehicle doors while they're at it?
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... that the insane inmates are running the asylum.
So THIS is how Republicans feel they need to be able to get their point across.
It doesn't seem like they have a lot of confidence in traditional ways of persuasion, like peaceful discussion, for example.
lapfog_1
(29,227 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)and just go home and have supper and call it a good day. We can put a sticker on our economy cars that says "The only good Republicans are ones with tire tracks on them."
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Sure. Why not? Tell me again how much they love the Constitution.
DFW
(54,447 posts)Can't leave them out.......
If that #DeathCare bill doesn't workout, this is option #2.
I Live in ND and when they Proposed this. My thinking,
Is North Dakota Proposing State Sponsored Terrorism?
Look how many Vehicles been used around the world to smash into crowds!
Could they get out of a Conviction if they said hmmmm, I thought they were protesting.
Idiots!!
All-In
(312 posts)God they are stupid.
Cha
(297,780 posts)I imagine the Gov of NC will veto that piece of shite.
DFW
(54,447 posts)If a Republican driving a car kills a Democrat protesting Trump, it's supposed to be a perfectly legal act.
If a Democrat driving a car kills a Republican harassing a Planned Parenthood clinic, it's vehicular homicide.
Its unbalanced, Like stand your Ground law. only to protect the Predator.
GOPers have ginormous trucks and suvs. The democrats have economy cars.
So now they are legitimizing terror acts to use against a constitutional right?
brooklynite
(94,786 posts)This is about CIVIL liability. It is still a CRIME to intentionally kill or injure someone, in a car or otherwise.
The argument here is that protestors blocking an operational roadway cannot make a legal claim if there's an accident with a car legally and responsibly operating on the road.
I am a First Amendment absolutist, but I continue to think that blocking roadways, which affects people NOT involved in the dispute being protested, is a stupid way to send a message.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)On a more serious note, does anyone do basic research anymore or do they just believe what ever is reported as long as it agrees with what they want to hear?
DFW
(54,447 posts)I have to contend with it all the time over here, especially in France and Belgium and it drives me nuts.
However, removing the civil liability removes, in my opinion, a good part of the inhibition to attempt not to injure someone, which is why I see it as a very thinly veiled sanction to injure whom someone sees fit. In such states, law enforcement is always disinclined to prosecute someone for doing something they would have been glad to do themselves. The threat of a civil suit was the last "but what if" barrier to open season.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)I'd be aiming for the guys in the white sheets and the guys protesting with their great big guns.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Here is the scenario: You are driving home from work, obeying all the speed limits and a protestor runs out into the middle of the road right in front of your car. You are unable to stop in time and strike and kill the protester. The accident is clearly the fault of the protester, however the protestor's relatives choose to sue you.
Why should YOU have to pay hire a lawyer and got through the expense and stress of a civil trial?
On edit - Here is a link to the actual bill being proposed: http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/65-2017/documents/17-0351-02000.pdf
"Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a driver of a motor vehicle who
unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual who is intentionally obstructing
vehicular traffic on a public road, street, or highway is not guilty of an offense."
DFW
(54,447 posts)This is not a story about people playing stickball in the street at a protest for losing their health care.
Your lawyer won't be billing you any hours for that, rest easy.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)and the insurance company's lawyer is working for the insurance company, not you.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)I don't understand where you're coming from here
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Even if the insurance company pays, which can include settling, the driver is still going to have to either use up vacation time or go with getting paid while having to attend the trial. Explain to me how that is fair?
TomSlick
(11,114 posts)If a driver is sued for damages from a driving accident, your insurance company will hire a lawyer. Personal injury defense lawyers have mortgage payments too and some of them are Democrats.
Initech
(100,107 posts)raccoon
(31,127 posts)bluestarone
(17,062 posts)Get rid of a protester and voter at the same time (THE ASSHOLES)