Howard Dean says: Nancy Pelosi was the best Speaker since Tip O'Neill

[Hekate]

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Dean was on MSNBC maybe an hour ago, saying that. Sorry not to have total accuracy, but things have been hopping in my life this morning (California time).

The reason for this post is the inexplicable desire of some DUers to get rid of one of the most effective Dem politicians in the nation -- starting yesterday in a swarm.

I'll add to that: Howard Dean, aka The Good Dr. Dean, for a long time the most beloved and respected losing presidential candidate ever deified on Democratic Underground. (I'm sure someone will tell me if he's fallen from his pedestal here). No one, and I mean NO ONE on the Dem side ever told him to stfu after he lost, nor to maintain a dignified silence, nor to be ashamed of whatever speaking fees he got.

[bresue]

1. Pelosi is better because she holds her little chicks close to the nest....

And brings all voting powers together for one strong vote. Now, how many can claim that? To be a uniter, not a divider!

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. howard dean is usually a great ally to women and minorities overall

sometimes he screws up as well do, but by and large he demonstrates what a male ally looks like

[Demsrule86]

6. I love Howard Dean...I was a Deaniac.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. i was not involved in that primary much

i was happy with anyone but bush

[Demsrule86]

28. Me too...I loved Howard Dean, he was my first choice, but I always work for and vote

Democratic ...always. Even when I lived in Georgia where I wrote in candidates often...as I told another poster who didn't get the reference ...sometimes I wrote 'yellow dog'.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. Ha!

[Mosby]

8. same here

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My wife met him when he was in phx.

He could have been a great president, a true progressive without all the political baggage.

[Demsrule86]

26. He is a good man.

[Hekate]

9. Me too. I worked hard for Howard Dean.

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[Demsrule86]

25. I did too...it broke my heart when he was not the nominee...but I worked hard for Kerry too.

[NastyRiffraff]

34. So was I

I even went to Iowa to campaign for him. Yes, I was there for the infamous Dean Scream, which BTW was NOTHING like it was shown over and over on TV.

[Wounded Bear]

4. And the Repubs ganged up on and took Tip O'Neill down, too...

[4139]

11. Tip retired... are you thinking of Tom Foley?

[Wounded Bear]

12. Oops, yeah, I guess so...

[underpants]

5. They were the most effective Congress since the Great Depression

in terms of the number and weight of achievements.

[spanone]

10. the fact the right hates her so much only proves his point.

[BigmanPigman]

24. Good point.

[Hekate]

13. Oh, and Tim Ryan sound bite just now on "the toxic Democratic brand" and Nancy P...

Fck him too

Add Filemon Vela. Nicolle Wallace: "can you give me some names?" Short answer: No

Christ on a trailer hitch. I am disgusted.

[Tarheel_Dem]

14. Agreed! n/t

[Hekate]

16. Somehow I missed that, but what relevance does your comment have?

[Hekate]

19. What part did you find funny? The way the MSM replayed the Dean Scream over 600 times?

Made him look like a clown and then denied all responsibility for his drop in the polls? Har har de har.

Or were you in the room when it happened, as a friend of mine was? She said the decibel level in that room was such that you couldn't hear yourself think and that he was trying to make himself heard by his supporters. Turns out the MSM had a directional mic aimed at him that wiped out nearly all the ambient noise and only picked up Dean's exhortations to his supporters

Yeeargh 600+ times. Oh how merrily I laugh when I recall that. Especially the warm memories of getting BushCheney re-elected.

Welcome to DU, DrWatson. Enjoy your time here.

[OnDoutside]

17. I'm amazed Ryan and Rice can say what they did, and get away without punishment.

[Me.]

32. Who Says They Have

There are ways and there are ways. Karma comes to those who least expect it and whomps them on the head. So Ryan with that new People's House Project he and Krystal Ball have drummed up is bound to fail 'cause he isn't smart enough. And, hiding in a secret room with 12 other members to plot a takeover and disparage Pelosi will get him nothing but a bad reputation as untrustworthy.

You think Nancy doesn't know how to handle that sour grapes whiner?

[Cha]

20. Mahalo, Hekate! Thanks Dr Dean!

[Madam45for2923]

21. Glad to hear that! Am with Pelosi & Dean! Great DEMS!

[Gothmog]

22. Howard Dean is correct

[saidsimplesimon]

23. Choice of words?

Was or is? I support Rep. Pelosi.

[Hekate]

29. Nancy Pelosi was at one time the Speaker of the House. She no longer holds that position due to...

...the Democrats no longer being in the majority in the House. Hence Dean's use of the past tense in regards to that title.

What she is, in the present, is one of the most skilled and powerful Democratic politicians/leaders in the House. Dean was acknowledging that.

We'd be fools to call for the ouster of Nancy P.

[loyalsister]

27. Because he had the dignity and good sense to accept his loss & retreat from the limelight

without pretending that he was so universally loved that it was simply unjust that he lost. As a supporter, I never claimed he was cheated out of a win.

[Alice11111]

30. Pelosi is great. Dean always tells the truth.

He was our best party leader. We wouldn't be in this mess, IMHO, if he had been head of the DNC in the General. 50 state solution rather than worrying about pissing off Repubs.

Thank you Pelosi for sticking it out. Many cut and ran when things got tough.

[IronLionZion]

33. DNC chairman Dean won us both houses of congress in 2006

installing Pelosi as the first woman, first Californian, and first Italian speaker of house.

And she was awesome sauce