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So we have Kristal Ball and Tim Ryan trying to get rid of Pelosi so they can direct the focus of the party. As for Ryan, he tried to unseat Pelosi and lost so we cant discount the sour grapes there. Both of these two have been on the airwaves making a less then compelling argument for their point of view though Ryan doesnt really come clean about being one of the people behind the group. As for Ball, why would Dems follow her, who is she anyway to be attacking anyone.
The People's House Project, founded by former MSNBC host and 2010 Virginia congressional candidate Krystal Ball, has begun interviewing candidates and recruiting donors for the new political action committee. The organization, which will go public on Tuesday, will provide money, guidance, and political connections for the candidates it chooses to run under its banner.
But Ball was more willing to directly attack the Democratic Partys leadership in the House and cast the new effort as an attempt to break with it. Some political analysts say Democratic candidates are weighed down by what the Cook Political Report calls the Pelosi Factor. In the home stretch of several House elections, including Thursdays Montana race, Republicans have deployed images of Pelosi in attack ads to go after their Democratic opponents.
Shes an impediment to every House Democrat in the country except for a few coastal enclaves, Ball said in an interview. Candidates running under the Peoples House Project will be able to say theyre of a different cast than Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Ball said.
Ball and the House Democrats behind the Peoples House Project say theyre determined to shake that image. Theyll try to fundraise for the PACs candidates, recruit candidates that fit the bill, and give them a slogan to use to try to distinguish themselves from the national party. It will allow them to say, Im a different kind of Democrat, said Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH), one of the House Democrats backing the project, in an interview. Its hard to convince people around here sometimes how toxic our brand is. But, clearly the brand is damaged, and we need to see if something else can work.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/30/15698378/house-democrats-pac
Which brings us back to Nancy Pelosi. Most of the voices calling for her to go are coming from younger Democrats, a lot of them allied with the Berniecrat wing of the party. (Ironically, the Republicans ran ads tying Jon Ossoff to Sanders, that socialist menace. Plus ca change
) I am charmed to my bones by the faith these young folks have that Pelosi's replacement would be someone dedicated to single-payer healthcare, the $15 minimum wage, and hanging banksters from lamp posts. More than likely, it would be someone like, say, Tim Ryan from Ohio, who talks the salt-o'-the-earth talk about economic anxiety, but who flipped on abortion in 2015, when it became convenient to do so, and who won an NRA endorsement in his first campaign. This development would not be to their liking.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55791/nancy-pelosi-replacement/
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Psychological don't you know?
Can't wait for the day that miscreant is taken down.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Pelosi. Once again, they're being duped into complicity w RWers. They didn't stop carrying RW water when it was noted last year about HRC.
Me.
(35,454 posts)saying she is being scapegoated....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029237667
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Krystal fucking Ball's lead, according to some on DU? Give me a break. She's a moron, just like Tim "NRA" Ryan.
Thanks. Me. This is very enlightening! I have a feeling there's another faction also pushing this anti-Pelosi nonsense.
Me.
(35,454 posts)And how they're trying to divide the Dem party. She's an opportunist who couldn't get elected and he tried to unseat Pelosi (as I'm sure you know) and also failed.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)They are both opportunists of the worst kind. I have a feeling they're getting some help.
Me.
(35,454 posts)and double bet that money is behind it. This is a new group and people need to know they're trying to push their meme on the rest of us.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Those people against Nancy Pelosi would be called the voters. Know this, Trunp is way more popular than Nancy Pelosi. She's at 28%.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Democratic voters are not against Nancy Pelosi.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)JPR is down the hall and to the right.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)peggysue2
(10,839 posts)Don't these people realize that all this 'dump on Nancy Pelosi' nonsense plays right into Republican hands?? What better way to weaken the Democratic Party than to undermine its leadership. And if Nancy Pelosi were deposed who would the next slaughtered candidate be??? I'm sure there are scapegoats galore to choose from. Ask a few Republicans. I'm certain they'd be helpful. Hah!
Really? Flat out dumb and dumber.
seaglass
(8,173 posts)Suckers born everyday I guess.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)competition she was calling for Hillary to abandon the thought of running? Then later, I thought I saw her working for the campaign. It is not popular but I call again for all those who continue to split the party to move on with their BS and leave those who want to retain being solid democrats to rebuild the party. Nothing is going to be gained by what we have now.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Will any changes to party leadership be discussed? The Party has had probably the most catastrophic 8 years in its history, everything is just awesome at the top though? The country is literally descending into fascism, but we can't even discuss changing leadership. Amazing.
Me.
(35,454 posts)He lost because the membership to whom this issue matters most discussed it, thoroughly, rejected him and voted her back in. That's how a democracy works.
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)and that he helped move the country towards fascism, you are not a Democrat. BTW Leaders are elected by the house every two years. Nancy Pelosi was recently re-elected to the post of minority leader. If someone might be able to do her job doesn't mean they are entitled to it.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)You do understand that House Minority Leaders are elected right? You do understand that Nancy Pelosi is a Democrat, right?
riversedge
(70,299 posts)(talking over her) as she was talking of health care. rude and mean.
mcar
(42,372 posts)Odd though, how some "progressives" are for this. We'd end up with Blue Dogs in charge, not liberals.
jalan48
(13,883 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)jalan48
(13,883 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)bresue
(1,007 posts)If they want a true change in the Democratic party there are other ways for change....bad mouthing in public is NOT the way to do it!!! Ryan is only ruining his own rise in the party....and Rice from New York.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Egos on the march
bresue
(1,007 posts)What is keeping you from coming up with a working plan? He bocked, bocked......back peddling!
And as I have stated "lets here some new ideas around the table" not spewing discord on TV.
Me.
(35,454 posts)beyond white men need money
bresue
(1,007 posts)no pun intended for white men out there....
Cha
(297,655 posts)he is.
Evidently, chuck todd called tim ryan out on this..
"He's interviewing Tim Ryan of Ohio, who is going on and on about how bad Pelosi is, saying "she has no plan for this", "she has no plan for that". Finally Chuck Todd interrupted him and asked, "so where's yours?"
He was dumbfounded and didn't know how to answer.
Then he asked, "other than hand wringing, what do you do?"
Still no sensible answer."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9239969
Aha!
Which brings us back to Nancy Pelosi. Most of the voices calling for her to go are coming from younger Democrats, a lot of them allied with the Berniecrat wing of the party. (Ironically, the Republicans ran ads tying Jon Ossoff to Sanders, that socialist menace. Plus ca change
) I am charmed to my bones by the faith these young folks have that Pelosi's replacement would be someone dedicated to single-payer healthcare, the $15 minimum wage, and hanging banksters from lamp posts. More than likely, it would be someone like, say, Tim Ryan from Ohio, who talks the salt-o'-the-earth talk about economic anxiety, but who flipped on abortion in 2015, when it became convenient to do so, and who won an NRA endorsement in his first campaign. This development would not be to their liking.
Mahalo, Me.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9239969
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)He was a good choice to replace that RW criminal Traficant.
But, yes, he lacks depth.
Cha
(297,655 posts)way to put it.
Mahalo, Kolesar
Havent seen you for a bit. So I can truthfully say I am charmed to my bones to see you here.
I cut out on that interview cause I couldnt stand that wide-eyed innocent look while garbage about Nancy was spewn from his mouth. I wish I had known he would be confronted.
Good on Chuck T.
Cha
(297,655 posts)sticking through it. lol
And, Mahalo, for your kind words. I just want to stay away sometimes..
Thanks to all of you who persist!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts).
raging moderate
(4,308 posts)Nancy Pelosi appeared off to one side and wrote a short note, which a page delivered to the current speaker. That person suddenly straightened up and introduced new and compelling data. The tide turned for the Dems at that moment.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)There were some "left wing saddies" distributing that story on Facebook. The author can "eat it".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-democratic-party-deserves-to-die_us_58236ad5e4b0aac62488cde5
I may have the wrong Ball. If so, I apologize for the brusque tone.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)in Virginia 1st CD and lost by a margin over 29% roughly doubling the previous losing margin against the same incumbent.
You have the Ball that wrote the article.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)and the rest of spiteful nincompoops Trump selected. With "allies' like this who needs enemies.
I keep repeating myself today but it bears repeating: they've become the GOP's fifth column, Charlie alludes to this in the piece and his instincts and assessment are correct.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Says it all
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)spent the better part of eight years attacking both Obama and the ACA.
Attacking the ACA became the GOP's plan for controlling government and these people helped them do it. Now they want to take control of the Democratic party after they helped defeat HRC.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)How do we get rid of these turncoats
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Run in our primaries. Had we let Nader run as a Democrat we would still be dealing with the fallout.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Just a Democrat
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts)Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Virginia . . .
Per 2016 Census estimates, that's 123,752,240 people - well over 1/3 of the population, well over half of the GDP.
"Coastal Enclaves" - ooh, burn!
Cha
(297,655 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Love it
Me.
(35,454 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)to go beddy bye.
You could do it, if you want!
Will Try but am a bump with pics
Sleep well
Cha
(297,655 posts)"Copy shortcut" as one of the choices.. left click on that and then paste to the message and Voila!
Link to tweet
And, thanks!