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Does anyone see a scenario where TrumpCare actually gets less mean (Original Post) brokephibroke Jun 2017 OP
And maybe only 15 million will lose their insurance, instead of 23 million. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #1
1000 points of needles. brokephibroke Jun 2017 #4
I only wish shenmue Jun 2017 #2
I can see tazkcmo Jun 2017 #3
I don't think they can get away with holding it off until 2018; at least not a lot of it because napi21 Jun 2017 #5
I understand the spitefulness brokephibroke Jun 2017 #6
No. The basis of this whole scheme is to eliminate the tax on the rich The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #7
If anything it will be worse than first glance Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #8

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
1. And maybe only 15 million will lose their insurance, instead of 23 million.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:36 PM
Jun 2017

Now THAT'S a kinder health care bill, eh?

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
3. I can see
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:37 PM
Jun 2017

The reconciliation process being a giant GOPee cluster fuck with Shit Gibbon throwing in the obligatory wrench. I also see mass protests on the horizon after text of the Senate bill is exposed only adding fuel to the cluster fuck fire.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. I don't think they can get away with holding it off until 2018; at least not a lot of it because
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:55 PM
Jun 2017

they've deliberately destroyed as much of Obama Care as they could already, so they HAVE to implement a good portion of their plan just to have any plan at all. I'm leaning toward believing they won't get the votes because they can only lose 2 Pubs and still get to 51 votes to pass, and I'm hearing more than 2 Pubs already complaining, so we'll see.

I really don't want to see people hurt by this awful bill, but how many of those people are still screaming "Get rid of Obamacare"? To those, I really WANT them to experience their new plan and see how they like it! I also believe if it DOES PASS, that will be the demise of the Con!

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
6. I understand the spitefulness
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jun 2017

But a lot of good people will be devastated. Where do they turn? What about the job lose in the health care sector when they are no longer compensated for care?

This is such a farce.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
7. No. The basis of this whole scheme is to eliminate the tax on the rich
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:07 AM
Jun 2017

that supported the ACA. So nothing that happens with has any "heart".

Let's not forget that the ACA helped all of us, no preexisting conditions, insurance for older children, elimination of no-good plans. These will all go away.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
8. If anything it will be worse than first glance
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:31 AM
Jun 2017

There will be hidden or secondary provisions that won't be spotlighted initially but designed to screw the poor and middle class. I have confidence in Republicans being true to themselves.

Then the actual numbers will be beyond the projections, in terms of people who lose insurance, pay more, and those who ultimately die.

Hard to believe it won't pass. There will be squabbling, perhaps a minor delay, and the familiar subjects will feign moderate concern but the bottom line vote will be narrow and devastating.

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