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applegrove

(118,778 posts)
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 08:40 PM Jun 2017

Why Obama Voters Defected

By Jamelle Bouie at Slate

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/06/voter_study_group_and_why_obama_voters_defected_to_trump.html

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Drutman plots the electorate across two axes—one measuring economic views, the other measuring views on identity—to build a political typology with four categories: liberals, conservatives, libertarians, and populists. Liberals, the largest single group, hold left or left-leaning views on economics and identity. Libertarians, the smallest group, hold right-leaning views on economics but leftward beliefs on identity. Conservatives are third largest, with right-leaning views on both indices, while populists—the second largest group—are the inverse of libertarians, holding liberal economic views and conservative beliefs on identity.

Most populists, according to Drutman, were already Republican voters in the 2012 election, prizing their conservative views on identity over liberal economic policies. A minority, about 28 percent, backed Obama. But four years later, Clinton could only hold on to 6 in 10 of those populist voters who had voted for Obama. Most Democratic defectors were populists, and their views reflect it: They hold strong positive feelings toward Social Security and Medicare, like Obama voters, but are negative toward black people and Muslims, and see themselves as “in decline.”

This is a portrait of the most common Obama-to-Trump voter: a white American who wants government intervention in the economy but holds negative, even prejudiced, views toward racial, ethnic, and religious minorities. In 2012, these voters seemed to value economic liberalism over a white, Christian identity and backed Obama over Romney. By 2016, the reverse was true: Thanks to Trump’s campaign, and the events of the preceding years, they valued that identity over economic assistance. In which case, you can draw an easy conclusion about the Clinton campaign—even accounting for factors like misogyny and James Comey’s twin interventions, it failed to articulate an economic message strong enough to keep those populists in the fold and left them vulnerable to Trump’s identity appeal. You could then make a firm case for the future: To win them back, you need liberal economic populism.

But there’s another way to read the data. Usually, voters in the political crosscurrents, like Drutman’s populists, have to prioritize one of their chief concerns. That’s what happened in 2008 and 2012. Yes, they held negative views toward nonwhites and other groups, but neither John McCain nor Mitt Romney ran on explicit prejudice. Instead, it was a standard left vs. right ideological contest, and a substantial minority of populists sided with Obama because of the economy. That wasn’t true of the race with Trump. He tied his racial demagoguery to a liberal-sounding economic message, activating racial resentment while promising jobs, entitlements, and assistance. When Hillary Clinton proposed a $600 billion infrastructure plan, he floated a $1 trillion one. When Clinton pledged help on health care, Trump did the same, promising a cheaper, better system. Untethered from the conservative movement, Trump had space to move left on the economy, and he did just that. For the first time in recent memory, populist voters didn’t have to prioritize their values. They could choose liberal economic views and white identity, and they did.

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Why Obama Voters Defected (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2017 OP
Why can't people just state the obvious?? boston bean Jun 2017 #1
Yes. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #6
Got it -- ignorant, greedy, bigots chose Trump. Hoyt Jun 2017 #2
misognyn might have been part of it (a la Macolm Gladwell's podcast) but... bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #3
Mr. Bouie! spicysista Jun 2017 #4
Welcome to the DU! applegrove Jun 2017 #5
Thanks! spicysista Jun 2017 #10
The economy was in crisis in 2008, and some former Bush voters knew a change was needed. dawg Jun 2017 #7
True. applegrove Jun 2017 #8
People really liked Obama Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #9
So the Obama-to-Trump voters voted for Obama, but don't like black people? KingDem Jun 2017 #11
The GOP and Trump spent 8 years slurring Obama. The GOP spent 8 applegrove Jun 2017 #12
Makes perfect sense standingtall Jun 2017 #13

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
1. Why can't people just state the obvious??
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jun 2017

It was misogyny. They coould deal with a black male president and make a vote in their interest. Even if they were bigots. But voting for a woman. Hell to the fucking no they said as they continued on to vote against self preservation.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
3. misognyn might have been part of it (a la Macolm Gladwell's podcast) but...
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jun 2017

Democrats and Bernie (who did) should have STRESSED and PROMISED and VOWED and MEANT IT about putting MORE MONEY in us 99% pockets - shout it - like FDR stressed, not as a slogan but as in at the barricades.

Bitching about tax cuts for the rich doesn't put money in Joe lower-middle class pockets (like Trump's lies about Coal jobs promised) and is like Muzak by now.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
4. Mr. Bouie!
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 08:55 PM
Jun 2017

Once again, Mr. Bouie offers another valuable perspective on a complicated topic. I've been very fascinated by the Obama to Trump voters. There seems to be some soft pedaling around their racial angst in the msm. Thanks for posting!

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
10. Thanks!
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:26 PM
Jun 2017

I've been around for a bit, but decided to officially join after last year's election attack. Again, thanks for the welcome.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
7. The economy was in crisis in 2008, and some former Bush voters knew a change was needed.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:00 PM
Jun 2017

The Great Recession swept Barack Obama into the Presidency.

But by 2016, things were much better. Not great, but better.

As a result, many people felt safe enough to vote based on "other" issues - abortion, race, guns, religion, xenophobia, etc.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
9. People really liked Obama
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jun 2017

Shortly after the 2008 election I went to an event where a Republican elder statesman was one of the speakers and this guy hammered really, really hard that people like Obama, they like Michelle and kids too and that running against a AM radio inspired boogieman was not going to resonate with people who had already decided they like him. He owed his meteoric rise to the fact that just about anybody who wasn't a racist was just plain going to like the guy.

The guy was supposed to nominally be speaking about his diplomatic career, Afghanistan and foreign aid but people kept trying to set the stage for him to attack Obama and he just sort of snapped.

People who are attractive and likeable just have it a little easier in all things, whether it's trying to check-in early at a hotel or run for president, fair or not people like Romney and Hillary Clinton don't get that privilege.

applegrove

(118,778 posts)
12. The GOP and Trump spent 8 years slurring Obama. The GOP spent 8
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:16 PM
Jun 2017

years making sure there was a long recession. Why? They didn't want people connecting and enjoying Obama as President to preserve the GOP's racist southern strategy. And, for the first time ever, one party (GOP) attacked all the foreign policy of a President constantly. Without a break.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
13. Makes perfect sense
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:30 AM
Jun 2017

only logical explanation for voting for the first African American in history and then turning around and voting for the man that spent 5 years claiming the first black President in history wasn't even a citizen of this country. Just because someone has racial anxiety does not mean they cannot also have economic anxiety. In 2008 and 2012 they were more concerned with economic anxiety over racial anxiety.

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