Dayum are there any straight white men that people should demand go away. Leave etc??

[boston bean]

Get out of dem leadership??

Or is it just women like hillary,dws and Nancy. Or hispanic men like Perez???

[BeyondGeography]

1. Joe Biden should take the next exit

[Fresh_Start]

2. Clinton and Gore

in their own time

of course that was 20 years ago....and there weren't any prominent females to pick on instead of them

[Fresh_Start]

3. Bernie should be the very first to exit

since even on DU nothing good ever comes along with a mention of his name

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

6. I endorse this message

[George II]

17. !

[Jamaal510]

20. +1

[NurseJackie]

21. Wow!

[justhanginon]

22. ........

[Number23]

24. Co-sign!

[sheshe2]

65. Yup.

[betsuni]

25. Heh, that's for sure.

[NanceGreggs]

26. Exactly.

[stonecutter357]

29. +1000.

[David__77]

31. Exit the Senate? I disagree.

...

[stevenleser]

35. I don't. Vermont is s blue state. We'll get another Democratic Senator. nt

[Raster]

53. so now you speak for the citizens of Vermont?

[delisen]

60. Why not? Sanders has been speaking for citizens of every other state

[Foamfollower]

42. + 1 googol!

[Gothmog]

45. I agree with your analysis

[Adrahil]

46. ... sick of hearing from him...

... he's a great gadfly in the Senate, but his "new ideas" are mostly re-cycled 1970's era socialist policies. They are not even up-to-date with the most successful social-democrat policies in use in Europe, especially Scandanavia.

[Quayblue]

49. Agreed nt

[KTM]

56. Why ?

If you guys were to lose your favorite punching bag, many of you would have nothing to post about anymore.

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. Yes!

[NastyRiffraff]

64. Truth, that

Just ask all the candidates he's endorsed, who lost. Yet Nancy Pelosi is the one who gets the blame.

[sheshe2]

66. ++++

[BainsBane]

4. Don't forget Corey Booker

a favorite target.

[yardwork]

52. He's a person of color.

The so-called progressives have really outdone themselves in recent years. Way to live up to all the stereotypes about how the far left is sexist and racist. I used to defend them. No more. Turns out to be sadly true.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

5. Who is telling Perez to go?

[leftstreet]

14. There's one thread here in GD n/t

[George II]

18. More than one in recent weeks.

[oberliner]

7. Bernie?

Does he count?

[m-lekktor]

9. I was thinking the same thing. Being jewish didn't make her list. nt

[boston bean]

10. Ah yes it did.

[George II]

19. Google "Debbie Wasserman-Schulz" please.

[Act_of_Reparation]

8. Yes.

[LostOne4Ever]

11. Bill Clinton- he really screwed things up by going on that damn plane nt

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Yeah, that was the definition of an unforced error. And by someone clearly smart enough

To know better.

[yardwork]

54. It was stupid but really, how many unethical and illegal things do Republicans do every day?

I'm no longer going to criticize any Democrat for any missteps. The hypocrisy on the part of Republicans, the media, and the fucking American people is choking me.

I'm glad that Bill got on the fucking plane. Do it again, Bill.

I'm serious. I'm done.

[GusBob]

12. Hell to the fucking yes!

But I like NP

I could answer your somewhat loaded question, but it is against the rules to bash Dem figures

Suffice it to say during my lifetime there were some real fucking losers

[ananda]

13. Hmm...

It's hard taking loss after loss to a party that is
corporate and sociopathic to the core.

These kinds of losses -- the kind that harm and kill
millions of Americans -- make us look to leadership
for accountability.

There is nothing wrong with this; but we also have
to take responsibility ourselves.

We need to look these leaders in the eye and talk to
them, demanding answers and what they plan to do
to make our elections fair and honest again.

We need to take charge as part of our civic duty,
en masse, and never give up!

[stevenleser]

36. I agree the corporate and sociopathic Green Party should go away.

After all the Greens are nothing more than a front for the GOP's efforts to defeat Democrats.

[DefenseLawyer]

15. When the Republicans lost 6 seats in the 98 midterms

They kicked Newt Gingrich out on his ass.

[NanceGreggs]

27. So fuckin' what? n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

40. I'm simply suggesting that it's factually wrong to say "this wouldn't happen to a man"

I'm not at all for the nonsense about having Pelosi step down, but there are lots of examples in history where leadership took the fall for election loses and most of them were men. Stupid Newt is just an example.

[stevenleser]

37. What works for them rarely works for our side. Nor should we want it to.

GOP leadership is geared toward selling Demagoguery, hate and lack of empathy to the voters.

So yeah, when someone appears to be losing their skills at selling that they are generally discarded.

As Democrats we are not only the reverse of that we care about competence in governing and crafting policy. You can't just replace people with deep skills in all of those areas the way you can replace a huckster on the other side.

[DefenseLawyer]

41. I'm not at all suggesting that we get rid of Pelosi

I'm only saying that old white men do get canned from leadership if they suffer loses. It has happened lots of times. Just because it has happened before doesn't mean we should do it now, but the only defense of Pelosi can't be "you're misogynists". Cut throat politics has a long history that isn't based on gender.

[KTM]

57. +1

[Cha]

16. Kick

[tritsofme]

23. I think Steny Hoyer should follow Pelosi out the door...

It is well past time for a new generation of leadership.

[WinkyDink]

39. Age per se doesn't seem like a good reason.

[tritsofme]

44. Standing as party leader for 8 elections, and only winning a majority twice

While you freeze the younger generation out of leadership, and show no path or progress toward being able to win a majority...

Seems like a lot of good reasons...

[betsuni]

28. I haven't been paying enough attention -- these demands that Pelosi go

is because of the Georgia election? One election?

[comradebillyboy]

55. It's the new Republican talking point that

some Dems have adopted.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. If DWS did such a wonderful job and was unfairly pilloried, lets put her back in charge of the DNC.

You know who would be two of the first people to tell you what a fucking atrociously bad idea that would be, at least off the record?

Nancy and, yes, Hillary.

Oh, and Perez, too.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/dnc-changes-tom-perez/index.html

No, no, people are just out to get her.


..right?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311506-reid-dnc-was-worthless-under-wasserman-schultz

[David__77]

32. As a Californian, I'd like Feinstein to retire.

Not because she's a woman. I do not wish the same of Sen. Harris, who I happily voted for.

I certainly don't want Pelosi to retire if that would mean she would be replaced by Steny Hoyer.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. Seriously. California has one Senator who is kicking ass and taking names.

And one who ought to consider letting a replacement more in tune with the 21st century take that seat.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-04-05/oldest-us-senators-accused-of-holding-biased-marijuana-hearing

[WinkyDink]

38. I wanted Harry Reid gone; does that count?

[KTM]

58. +1

[mcar]

43. K&R

[Orrex]

47. How about Manchin?

[liskddksil]

48. Yes Steny Hoyer, who has been equally ineffective in helping us win again nt

[pirateshipdude]

51. I agree. It really is that obvious. Eom

[cannabis_flower]

59. Joe "fuckin'" Manchin

[stevenleser]

62. In other words you want to add a far right Republican to the senate. No thanks. nt

[herding cats]

63. Sure, why not?

Wasn't ousting Dems from conservative seats all the rage back in 2010? It was a huge success, too. They dropped like flies and we're often replaced by Tea Party extremist. Then there was the census, and the subsequent gerrymandering. Ah, good times.

That's sure way to fix this country once and for all!




JIK

[cannabis_flower]

68. Actually..

What I would like is for West Virginia to be an entirely different kind of place.

[sheshe2]

67. Dayum.

Awesome thread.

Kickity kick.

[Cha]

69. KICK