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Texas Lawyer

(350 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:33 PM Jul 2012

Your thoughts on Ann Curry vs. Savannah Guthrie

Obviously, NBC made a hash out the involuntary transition from Ann Curry to Savannah Guthrie (with more drama continuing to unfold as a result of skipping over Natalie Morales in the process).

I rarely watch the Today Show (partly because I find the segments with Jennifer Bush totally unwatchable), so I already have one foot out the door. I'm wondering is this switch is a step to increase or decrease the willingness of the news to call bullshit when a right-wing bull craps in a china shop.

Ann seemed too timid sometimes, but she had some good qualities:

Curry asked the question: "do you think that members of the Tea Party caucus know how to govern, or are they — do they understand that standing up for a cause is not the same as governing?'"

Curry described the anti-worker political bullying as an outrage: "We turn now to that outrage, you just heard about in Wisconsin, where the Republican-controlled senate voted last night to cut collective bargaining rights for public employees."

Curry grilled Gov. Christi on the "a coordinated" right-wing effort to "scapegoat" unions for problems "created by Wall Street" and the "banks" and she made the point that "it doesn't sort of make sense...that the unions really are to blame."

Curry criticized the Rep. Ryan budget because "poor people will suffer under this budget."

Curry grilled ex-Rep. Gingrich for "increasingly stepping up your characterization of President Obama as a 'food stamp president,' interestingly, in the lead-up now to South Carolina....Are you intentionally playing the race card to win votes?


Savannah has been cast in the role of the usurping evil step-mother, but she -- too -- had some good qualities:

Guthrie graduated near the top of her Georgetown Law School class and went on to get the highest marks on her state bar exam.

Guthrie was very complimentary of Chief Justice Roberts for siding with the liberal wing of the SCOTUS when he affirmed the the President's health care act.

Guthrie chastised Ex-Sen. Santorum for taking "cheap shots" at the President and for trying to "reignite the culture wars in America."

Guthrie was formerly married to Al-Jazeera producer Mark Orchard and then in a long term relationship with Democratic activist Michael Feldman (Vice President Al Gore’s traveling chief of staff his last presidential campaign).



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Your thoughts on Ann Curry vs. Savannah Guthrie (Original Post) Texas Lawyer Jul 2012 OP
Morning Shows are the worst of the aging behemoth that is network television CBGLuthier Jul 2012 #1
Curry was treated badly. That simple. Guthrie from what I have read can't seem to keep southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #2
But wasn't Lauer pretty much known as a very promiscuous guy? CTyankee Jul 2012 #5
I think he and his wife did briefly separate, and that was the rumored reason why. AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #6
Geez, I wouldn't stay married to a guy I had to follow around to keep CTyankee Jul 2012 #11
Yes your right. If I am not mistake he is even is suppose to be the daddy of Guthrie's child. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #15
what utter nonsense cwydro Jul 2012 #20
Who are you to tell me what I can say? I wasn't even speaking to you. Buzz off. Again southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #21
lmao cwydro Jul 2012 #29
That's just fucking mean. HappyMe Jul 2012 #41
Asking for proof of gossip is mean? cwydro Jul 2012 #43
No, again, that is Natalie liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #26
Thanks for the correction. I read something about Matt. I always get those 2 ladies mixed up. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #39
Savannah doesn't have any children. nt mentalsolstice Jul 2012 #38
Thanks for the correction. It was the wrong lady. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #40
No, that was Natalie Morales that he liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #24
can someone send me a link to this gossip? cwydro Jul 2012 #30
I watch NBC news in the morning Lawlbringer Jul 2012 #3
I liked Ann Curry well enough, especially after Meredith Veira. AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #4
+1 butterfly77 Jul 2012 #13
If NBC wanted "Today" to work, they should bring back Katie Couric LiberalEsto Jul 2012 #14
I totally agree. It was the women that kept that show going. Fla Dem Jul 2012 #27
Why would Couric want to come back? AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #37
i hate the morning shows enough not to give a shit. spanone Jul 2012 #7
I'm on DU during the morning shows..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #8
I have not watched any of those shows since the '80s SoCalDem Jul 2012 #9
To show how much I don't watch these shows, ashling Jul 2012 #10
LOL... I was good up 'til "Natalie Morales." WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2012 #18
None. JHB Jul 2012 #12
I watch Current in the mornings. femmocrat Jul 2012 #16
You know an awful lot about the two for someone who rarely watches the show. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2012 #17
I'm a longtime Today viewer cwydro Jul 2012 #19
I'm with you RockaFowler Jul 2012 #23
I have totally somehow missed this infidelity gossip. cwydro Jul 2012 #31
It was all over the place in 2010 RockaFowler Jul 2012 #33
thanks for the links! cwydro Jul 2012 #36
I found this on Dogpile.com: catbyte Jul 2012 #34
Bigger question....who picked out the ugly as hell outfits for ann curry? ileus Jul 2012 #22
Everyday they were awful RockaFowler Jul 2012 #25
They handled it badly and blamed Ann--maybe people are sick of Matt Lauer? WI_DEM Jul 2012 #28
That's kind of what I was thinking. HappyMe Jul 2012 #42
Curry wasn't the problem & Guthrie isn't the answer catbyte Jul 2012 #32
The TODAY Show is like HSN these days KurtNYC Jul 2012 #35

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
1. Morning Shows are the worst of the aging behemoth that is network television
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jul 2012

Manipulative crap that is a waste of everyone involved's time. How people can ever watch such obvious pablum is really beyond me.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Curry was treated badly. That simple. Guthrie from what I have read can't seem to keep
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jul 2012

her hands off other married men. I don't know if it is true. But lets hope she will do her job and let Mrs Lauer in peace. Evidently she had a relationishp with Matt. His wife isn't happy and will follow him to the Olypmics. Pretty sad when you can't trust your husband who likes to cheat also. Curry is a class act and will get back in the game. She is a true professional

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. But wasn't Lauer pretty much known as a very promiscuous guy?
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jul 2012

I haven't watched that show for years but I remember reading something about his infidelity problems from way back...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
6. I think he and his wife did briefly separate, and that was the rumored reason why.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jul 2012

If I were the missus, I sure as hell would be making plans to go to London.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. Geez, I wouldn't stay married to a guy I had to follow around to keep
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jul 2012

him faithful. I doubt if that would work anyway...

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
15. Yes your right. If I am not mistake he is even is suppose to be the daddy of Guthrie's child.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jul 2012

But I don't know.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. what utter nonsense
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jul 2012

I don't care for her...but please...where do you get this ridiculous gossip?

and it is you're right, not your right...I won't even comment about the other mistakes in your post.

good lord, learn English before you post.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
21. Who are you to tell me what I can say? I wasn't even speaking to you. Buzz off. Again
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:16 AM
Jul 2012

I said I read it and didn't say it was true. Get a life will ya. You have no right to tell me what I can say.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
26. No, again, that is Natalie
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

Morales's youngest child whom he's supposed to have fathered. How his wife can put up with him, I have no idea.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
39. Thanks for the correction. I read something about Matt. I always get those 2 ladies mixed up.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jul 2012

Thank you again for the correction.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
24. No, that was Natalie Morales that he
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jul 2012

screwed around with and who keeps thinking that married men are her personal harem. She's the reason why he and his wife separated for awhile and apparently one of the the reasons Natalie Whorales didn't get the nod to replace Curry was because his wife threatened to divorce him if he requested that she be the replacement (he has a lot of influence on that, given his status on the program).

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
30. can someone send me a link to this gossip?
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jul 2012

seriously, I never heard this nonsense before, but if there's a real story then I'd be interested to read it.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
3. I watch NBC news in the morning
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

Because I really enjoy their local news program here in NYC, and it gives me updates as I get dressed before work in the morning. On days that I go in late, or am off and watching TV that's not Sesame Street (two kids under 3), it's most certainly NOT the Today Show.

Morning TV shows (I refuse to call them news programs) are less and less about news and more about shilling something. I hate celebrity interviews, and the real important interviews can be seen online later.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
4. I liked Ann Curry well enough, especially after Meredith Veira.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jul 2012

Veira got on my nerves big time. But it is Matt Lauer I can't stand. His ego is obviously driving the direction of that show.

I used to watch "Today," but it has gotten just too tabloid and is a total waste of my time. But one of the straws on the camel's back to me was Lauer's interview with Trayvon Martin's relatives shortly after the shooting, where he insinuated that perhaps Trayvon had it coming. I don't know how they held it together.

As I said, I cannot stomach Matt Lauer.

Fla Dem

(23,741 posts)
27. I totally agree. It was the women that kept that show going.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:26 AM
Jul 2012

Katie and Meridith powered that show. Unfortunately Ann Curry was not as much a personality as those two, and therefore could not help keep Matt's star shining. He is the dullest of dull hosts. Really, NBC doesn't have to look very far to see who really is thew drag on that show.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. Why would Couric want to come back?
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jul 2012

It's clear who's in charge of that show. The only question is, who's in Lauer's cross-hairs now? Al? Willard? Natalie Morales? And how long will it be before Guthrie gets dumped?

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
9. I have not watched any of those shows since the '80s
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012

Fluff..quasi weather & nonsense.


that said, I do like Savannah. I have nothing against Ann Curry, but if the rest of the show thinks she's not a fit, she was doomed

She will be paid off handsomely and will probably breathe a sigh of relief to be off that show,

ashling

(25,771 posts)
10. To show how much I don't watch these shows,
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jul 2012

I saw your headline and your moniker and thought this was about a law case.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
18. LOL... I was good up 'til "Natalie Morales."
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jul 2012

And I only know Savannah Guthrie because I lived in DC when she was a reporter for a local station.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
16. I watch Current in the mornings.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:03 PM
Jul 2012

Bill Press and Stephanie Miller are wonderful.

I think those network morning shows are just inane. I can't watch them. CBS' new revamp is totally unwatchable, IMO.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
17. You know an awful lot about the two for someone who rarely watches the show.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jul 2012

And don't count on Corporate Media ever calling "bullshit when a right-wing bull craps in a china shop." It's all theatre.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. I'm a longtime Today viewer
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:04 AM
Jul 2012

I'm right in their demographic..never a fan of Anne, but they handled that very badly. No one should be treated that way.

Meredith was great...I miss her.

Savannah is not right for the show...I think Natalie would have been a better choice.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
23. I'm with you
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:20 AM
Jul 2012

I liked Ann, but she wasn't the right person for the job. But Savannah is definetly not for the job. Why didn't NBC do what Live with Kelly is doing?? Rotating hosts until they can find that perfect person to be the co-host. Especially because they want to keep that idiot Lauer. He was so smug when Ann Curry left. It was so awful to watch. Painful even.

Oh and the rumor here is that Natalie Morales was passed over because she was the one who had an affair with Matt.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. I have totally somehow missed this infidelity gossip.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

Where does one read this information? I'm all over the news sites, but somehow I've missed this.

Now I'm curious damn it!

ileus

(15,396 posts)
22. Bigger question....who picked out the ugly as hell outfits for ann curry?
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jul 2012

Every morning it was a new more hideous outfut. Stuff only the blind would be caught dead in...

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
25. Everyday they were awful
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jul 2012

The last few looked like potato sacks

Look at Robin Roberts on GMA. She always looks top-notch. Classy and cool even under all the pressure she's been under lately. That woman knows about fashion. Ann Curry - not so much.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
42. That's kind of what I was thinking.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

People are sick of giant ego Lauer, and Ann Curry took the fall for it.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
32. Curry wasn't the problem & Guthrie isn't the answer
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jul 2012

I think the core problem is Matt Lauer. He's smarmy, a bad interviewer, has a stupid haircut and cheats on his wife--what's to like?

I'm sticking with Bill Press in the morning and saving myself all kinds of aggravation.



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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
35. The TODAY Show is like HSN these days
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jul 2012

An endless parade of stuff to buy interrupted by about 2 minutes of "news."

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