Many more would have died in London tower block blaze if it wasn't for Ramadan

[forgotmylogin]

Many more would have died in London tower block blaze if it wasn't for Ramadan: 'These Muslim boys helped us'

Muslims awake for Ramadan and returning home from prayers may have helped save lives after seeing the fire at Grenfell tower.

Muslims were among the first people on the scene as people were being evacuated and eyewitness accounts have corroborated that many sought to hand out food and clothes to the victims of the fire.

"If it wasn't for all these young Muslim boys round here helping us, coming from mosques, a lot more people would've been dead.

They want to talk about them when they're doing bad things, but when they're doing good - they were the first people with bags of water giving to people and helping people and running and telling people."

https://www.indy100.com/article/muslim-boys-prayer-ramadan-grenfell-tower-block-fire-kensington-london-7789971

[underpants]

1. Very interesting

[Scurrilous]

2. K&R

[Igel]

3. Yup.

The problem is that there's no cause yet. One person was rumored to have been overheard saying it was his old fridge. (By most standards these days, that counts as "fact", but not for me.)

It's possible that the fire was caused by people who stayed up late, by a meal being cooked late, etc. If this was because Ramadan was being celebrated, will we hear similarly unbiased, objective articles saying that those who died in the London tower block died because of Ramadan? I suspect that just be billed as a "cooking fire" and it would be considered Islamophobic to mention. (Yes, people would still have to cook. But then the fire would have started earlier, in all likelihood, when more people were either out of the building or at least still awake.)

I wouldn't want to focus on religion-related blame for the latter. So I'm going to withhold my celebration of religion-related honor for the former. If credit is due for one, it's due for the other.

[forgotmylogin]

4. Is it possible you're misinterpreting or confusing two stories?

There was a separate story, the UK Sun (or Mirror?) published a photo of the man who's refrigerator is purported to have started the blaze, which was a shitty thing to do.

The article I posted is saying that since the fire started so late after most people were asleep it may have gone much longer before being detected if there weren't people who saw it when it started while returning home so late from celebrating Ramadan. Apparently the first people reporting the fire happened to be Muslims on their way home from prayers who might not have been up so late or outside to witness it otherwise.

There's been no suggestion that the fire was started by someone cooking late at night, for Ramadan or not. I mean, perhaps it's hyperbole to suggest that the lives that were saved were some kind of holiday-related miracle, but it was an interesting story.