A Severe Lesson Was Learned Yesterday

[Me.]

How much damage a single, one lone bullet, can do.

[jmg257]

1. Was there any doubt?

[Me.]

3. I don't Know If It Was Doubt

but willful ignorance. These lawmakers have been backing the NRA for decades, ignoring the pleas of people whose lives have been destroyed/damaged by bullets. Now it has come to them. One of their members was shot in the hip which at a first think wouldn't sound life threatening. But then you learn that one bullet it broke bones, entered his pelvis and did damage to some of his organs.
Hopefully, this will be a wake-up call for some of those who were planning on voting to remove restrictions from silencers yesterday.

[jmg257]

9. If people are pushing guns, without knowing what they are capable of, then

agreed - they are pretty ignorant. And especially if they are carrying them (though this was a rifle round)

Silencers isn't nearly as important an issue as mag capacity etc. They just don't make that much of a difference in real life.


ETA: the lesson they learned yesterday is there may always a threat. As seen last evening, more of em will promote carrying then before.

[Me.]

10. They Don't

But, ironically, that was the gun related issue up for a vote yesterday, which was then canceled.

[jmg257]

11. Yes understood. Haven't heard how it was looking one way or the other.

[tblue37]

13. But with a silencer it would take longer for people to realize they were in the middle of an

active shooter situation. Hearing shots allow people to take whatever steps they can to escape or to hide from the shooter.

[jmg257]

15. While we can ssume in that case 'louder' would be better, is there enough a difference?

"Silenced" guns are as loud as thunder or a jackhammer

Library whisper – 30 db
Emergency vehicle siren – 115 db
Silenced .22 rifle – 116 db
Thunder – 120 db
Silenced 9mm pistol – 125 db
Dish breaking – 129 db
Jackhammer – 130 db
Silenced .223 rifle – 134 db
Silenced 12 gauge shotgun – 137 db
Jet taking off – 150 db
Non-silenced 12 gauge shotgun – 160 db
Non-silenced .223 rifle – 165 db

https://crimefictionbook.com/2015/04/28/how-loud-is-a-silencer/

[X_Digger]

16. "Silencers" are a hollywood myth.

A rifle suppressor brings the sound from ~160db down to ~120db. Still louder than a rock concert (110db). Nobody would miss a 120db shot.

[Wounded Bear]

2. I learned that in 1963, when I was in 6th grade...

[Me.]

4. Sigh

[hamsterjill]

5. Yeah, see, I'd amend your post to include

"A Severe Lesson Was Learned Yesterday by a bunch of arrogant deniers who never thought it could happen to them".

No, it was not right, and it was, in fact, horrific. Violence is not the answer and I do not condone it.

But it's been okay with these jerks when it has happened to other people. They do not possess empathy for others and only understand things when those things directly impact them personally. That is a sad commentary when it is their job to represent their constituents.

[malaise]

7. Well said

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Not one of them had a shred of sympathy for the families of the Sandy Hook victims or for Gabby Giffords. Now they want unity.

[hamsterjill]

8. Thank you.

Exactly! They want the hate to stop, but they've sure been enjoying spewing the hate for the last several decades.

[Bettie]

12. They want the hate toward them to stop

they will keep on hating anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow little box.

[hamsterjill]

14. +1

Well put!

[smirkymonkey]

17. It's bullshit. It makes me sick that they even dare to ask.

It's insulting that they think we are stupid enough to fall for their crap.

[malaise]

19. They think we're as gulluble as their base

Fugg 'em!

[Hoyt]

6. Unfortunately, I doubt our lawmakers learned anything. They'll get a big check from the NRA this

week, along with a letter on why it's important to get more barely educated people carrying guns. Ignorant white wingers will let them know that they want reciprocity so they can travel across the country with their beloved AR15 in the trunk and a pistol or two strapped to their body. That's what or Congresspeople will remember.

[Vinca]

18. You might have thought another lesson would have been learned and that is no one is safe anywhere

in a nation that has more guns than people. I haven't heard a peep about gun control.

[malaise]

20. Isn't it too early for that

[Vinca]

23. They haven't talked about treatment for the mentally ill, either.

Probably because they're cutting it from their healthcare bill. It makes you want to scream.

[Squinch]

21. I'd be willing to bet money that none of them, not even Scalise, learned that lesson.

[Me.]

22. Sad