Trump is in so much trouble

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Money laundering
Obstruction of justice

[J0D]

1. Really!?

They got him on money laundering too!?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. The seeming multiplicity of investigations speaks for itself...

The one additional part of the WaPo article is broad and vague but in its own way represents the most peril for the President and his entourage. At one point the article reads: “Mueller is overseeing a host of investigations involving people who are or were in Trump’s orbit, people familiar with the probe said. The investigation is examining possible contacts with Russian operatives as well as any suspicious financial activity related to those individuals.” Earlier in the piece, there’s this: “Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.”

The seeming multiplicity of investigations speaks for itself. But it is the repeated reference to “financial crimes” or “suspicious financial activity” that grabs my attention.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-wapo-obstruction-blockbuster-and-the-world-of-hurt-to-come

[Leghorn21]

4. Oh hell yeah, Dem. I keep reading things like "finCENfucked" and "RICO, baby" and rumors

that a guy named Eric Schneiderman and his 650-member staff are spitting fire, plus things like 33 Russian monsters got rolled up last week, and such like that, and I go

Oh HELL yeah!!

[Quixote1818]

11. Money Laundering is what I have been expecting to pop up for months

All those ties with Russian mobsters and all this financing showing up from Russia out of the blue when the US banks would not lend to him. It just SCREAMS money laundering and it's probably pretty well hidden but you can never completely hide it and the FBI has deep pockets to look into every fucking deposit into 500 different banks if they have to. If he did it then they will find it.

If I had been him there is no way in HELL I would have ever run for president and opened up having a spotlight on me. His hubris is going to take him down and down hard!

[Patterson]

14. I've been calling him Icarus since he started running.

[moonscape]

18. The person who seemed most uneasy with the spotlight was Manafort. He didn't

seem to like being on camera and would have preferred a far lower profile - we came to know why - even before Russian links were stirred up in the press.

45 though is something other - other than normal.

[Demsrule86]

26. It wasn't smart. He had no understanding of the power of the president...maybe thought he could

be Putin.

[J0D]

47. I believe he hid his taxes returns to hide money laundering

But my concern was that if they did not find it by now,
they may not find it. With the help of swindlers like Putin
who probably has a lot of experience hiding shady deals,
who knows what he is able to get away with.

I mean, 'someone' at the IRS has access to Trump's tax returns.
Couldn't they have procured a red flag by now?

[yardwork]

19. They got him on money laundering years ago.

Why this wasn't headlined during the election I don't know. The media found it more profitable to fluff him.

[J0D]

48. They did fluff him..

We were hoping MSNBC would be a recluse where we didn't have to hear 'TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP' all the time.

I remember looking at my boyfriend with a pit in my stomach saying "Seriously! Why are they doing this? This cannot have a good outcome". I mean, I remember on Chris Matthews, they had an hour long bio on Trump. All his 'accomplishments', and maybe two slight negative inferences. I was like "Why.. WHY!?".

[redwitch]

20. They will I think.

Matter of time. Drip, drip, drip for now.

[Bleacher Creature]

3. Money laundering???

I saw the news about the obstruction investigation. Did I miss something?

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Brian Williams just mentioned it

Mueller had brought on an investigator who was experienced in that aspect.

[*** <...>

Mueller is overseeing a host of investigations involving people who are or were in Trump’s orbit, people familiar with the probe said. The investigation is examining possible contacts with Russian operatives as well as any suspicious financial activity related to those individuals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html ***]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. If Trump is using dirty money to finance his projects can the government seize them?

[BumRushDaShow]

7. I can't see why not

which might mean they are behind the scenes trying to obfuscate and unwind whatever they have going right now.

[Demsrule86]

27. Which is why Trump began freaking out and wanted to fire Mueller.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. Yup.

Some pundits are suggesting he was "served" (or at least notified) regarding this, triggering the firing rumors.

[Demsrule86]

34. The much maligned Louise said that. She is right fairly often.

[BumRushDaShow]

35. I noted that in a thread yesterday

but didn't want to get caught up in the Mensch/Taylor argument.

[Demsrule86]

40. I know ...me too.

I fail to understand why people are so hard on those who while not perfect are on our side.

[FakeNoose]

9. His casinos took dirty money from the Russian mob for years

The Feds have already been watching that, and they can pretty much prove it. They've been trying to get former employees to talk and that's what stalled the investigation. It's been in the news since last year but the laundering happened years ago. (His casino in Atlantic City went bankrupt about 7 or 8 years ago.)

Another way Trump has laundered Russian mob money is taking very large payments for Trump properties. Like 10x the selling price so they were really payoffs and illegal campaign contributions. This involves the entire Trump family plus Jared Kushner by the way.

There are several threads right here on DU if you search for them. Even if the Feds never prove Trump's guilt on the Russian thing, they already have him on RICO and money laundering. I just hope they get him for back taxes too. Wouldn't that be great?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. He actually had 3 casinos in AC

the last of which (Taj Mahal) was part of a second (final) bankruptcy just 3 years ago, and he ended up selling it to Carl Icahn at that point. Icahn fought with the casino's union (then on strike to recover pension and other benefits), and eventually closed it completely last year. Icahn just sold it to Hard Rock this year, so looking forward to seeing how that pans out. The location is literally across from Steel Pier (and connects to it via a skywalk).





One of my sisters had found a fire sale deal for a weekend there while it had been in bankruptcy where her ocean front room was like $60 a night. This was the entity that had the Russian mobsters early in its history in the '90s.

The other 2 included what used to be the Holiday Inn years and years ago (I recall staying there back in '74) right next to the old Boardwalk Hall (where they had the Miss America contest, and eventually expanded and sold), and the the Marina (also sold). The Marina was originally to be a Hilton, but was refused a casino license due to Hilton management's mob ties.

[colsohlibgal]

8. But....

Saw a clip of Lumpy, aka Hannity saying there was nothing to any of this time to move on. This from the guy who jumped all over and 3rd rate rumor about Hillary.

The quicker we get this clown out of the WH the better...even better if Pence goes too.

[QED]

10. Most of his real estate sold the past few years was sold to LLCs

untraceable money.

[sarcasmo]

12. Donnie pissed off the FBI and CIA it's over, only a matter of time.

[zz-la]

13. I think he will be gone by Christmas

No way he can stay in office with all these investigations going on.

[R B Garr]

15. Yes, he's in trouble and there is no coming back

from this. The investigation will consume everything. Any maneuver from him or his lawyers will probably be countered with more leaks. What an idiot to lie about and smear his own IC.

[Cha]

17. In summary...

Link to tweet

RB

[yardwork]

21. Thanks for posting that!

[Cha]

23. Kinda puts things in perspective...

lol yardwork!

[yardwork]

24. Mahalo, Cha!

[Demsrule86]

30. The true irony here is that most all of this is self inflicted...oh they would catch him eventually,

but the Trump white house and Trump did exactly the wrong thing...this is a prime example of the old saying 'the guilty flee where no man pursueth.

[Cha]

31. Yes! So gratifying watching the pervert, cheato,

hoist himself up real high on his own petard.

[Demsrule86]

33. It really is because I despise Trump.

I went to High School in Connecticut and some of Dad's friends were bankrupted by this guy...few get away clean from an association with the Donald. My brother who likes everyone worked with Trump on some deal...and told me that everything you hear, multiply it ten times...and you have the truth...my brother is a true independent...has votde for some GOP but voted for Obama both times and Clinton last year because he hates Trump...not a Clinton fan my brother...but he said Donald would be a disaster as he always is...and of course my brother was correct.

[Cha]

36. cheato proved who he was in the primaries

and anyone who voted for him supported that perversion no matter how they rationalized their brainwashed Hillary hate.

Your brother's experience gave him a front row seat to trump and he knew this was not some show he was putting on. Some of us could just tell.

Then there's stein who told her suckered fans "Hillary was more dangerous than trump".

[Demsrule86]

39. I hate Jill Stein...and the Greens should change their name...the environmental damage they

have caused by helping elect Republicans over the years is terrible.

[Cha]

41. Good idea.. They should get a name that more accurately

describes their org.. like barren waste.org

[Demsrule86]

43. or...'take the money (from GOP) to run and spoil'

[Cha]

44. R**F*******RUs

[Demsrule86]

46. That is great.

[meow2u3]

45. I prefer Breitbart change their name to blightbart.com

because this so-called news is a blight on the body politic.

[dembotoz]

22. And u folks think the gop will allow prosecution?

More faith in this country than I got

[yardwork]

25. My bet is on the New York state attorneys. They'll get him in the end.

[Vinca]

28. Finally I think we're getting somewhere.

The obstruction investigation has been going on for more than a month. Jared's on the chopping block, too. Maybe justice will win out after all.

[CK_John]

32. Why??? He has been making a joke of the legal system for 40yrs.

[marylandblue]

37. When he was just another crooked real estate developer

They probably just looked the other way on a lot of things. Now thathenis the most scrutinized job on earth, the stakes are too high to look away.

[judesedit]

38. Add theft to that

[milestogo]

42. Bloated, narcissistic, bad hair