Why weren't the Congressmen carrying concealed weapons!?

[NightWatcher]

They take thousands of dollars from the NRA to tell us how we are supposed to carry to protect ourselves from the "bad guy with a gun" by being a good guy with a gun.

Just like the vast majority of citizens in the vast majority of shootings, the only protection and the "only thing that prevented a massacre" (Rand Paul & others there) was the presence of police (because Rep Scalise is in Leadership).

Don't cash an NRA check and tell movie goers, mall shoppers, and elementary school teachers to carry a gun to protect themselves when you don't.

Today several Congress members became Average Americans, victims to gun violence that they cannot protect themselves from, saved only by the police, as are we.

Pass sensible gun safety legislation now!

[WillowTree]

1. Who would pack a gun while playing baseball?

[DetlefK]

3. That's a question for the NRA, not us.

[former9thward]

34. No its a question for the person asking the question in the OP.

I have never seen ball players with guns on.

[safeinOhio]

16. One of those "soft targets"

they get all excited about?

[tenderfoot]

29. Who would pack one going to Applebee's or Wal-Mart?

eom

[WillowTree]

33. Not the same thing and I think you know it.

[tenderfoot]

35. I know it's the same thing. Because it is.

Have a nice day.

[WillowTree]

36. I gave you credit for being perceptive enough.......

.......to get that anyone who actually uses guns enough to have a carry permit would have much less hesitation to do so walking calmly down the aisles of a Walmart than to pack while actually playing baseball (as someone already mentioned, sliding into third base would kind of require a death wish). My bad.

Have a nice day yourself.

[Baconator]

37. Yo...

[Lord_at_War]

39. You "pack" when you think it's necessary...

Should I be allowed to carry when making a night deposit of the $3K from the register at my pizza shop at the bank at 2:30 AM in a bad neighborhood?

[Alea]

44. Why would anyone carry in Lane Bryant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_Bryant_shooting

[NCTraveler]

43. People who claim that is how responsible citizens protect themselves. nt.

[jimlup]

2. Actually the have armed police with them

so in a sense they were. I think we should wait and develop talking points later after we have all of the facts. Yes, I believe the armed citizens idea is a load of crap but let's wait and see how this develops.

[lostnfound]

11. And a couple of those police were also shot. Also a cost

Armed police also shot.
So glad the little kid was not hit and hopefully no one dies.

[jimlup]

21. Love your sig line!

And your avatar too

[asiliveandbreathe]

28. You jest!!!! I think we should wait and develop talking points later after we have all of the facts

From your comment - I think we should wait and develop talking points later after we have all of the facts -

Try telling that to the republicans who have a need to spew nonsense before the smoke clears...

Be well...

[hack89]

4. Very hard to get a concealed carry permit in DC

I suspect there will be pressure to change that.

[Persisted]

6. Shooting was in VA. nt

[hack89]

7. I guess it depends where they live and work

in any case, they had armed security - they didn't need to carry.

[Persisted]

20. Only Scalise had security.

If he hadn't been there there would have been no Capitol Police.

[hack89]

23. Reciprocal concealed carry might be the answer then

make it easy to carry between DC and VA.

[Persisted]

31. Yeah.....not gonna happen. nt

[hack89]

32. More likely than some of the gun safety fantasies we see posted here. nt

[Baconator]

38. National reciprocity would likely score Trump some big points...

I wonder if hell do it.

[spooky3]

12. Yes, but if they live in DC, as many do, where are they

going to put a gun they would own? They're not going to buy it on the way to a baseball practice.

[atreides1]

18. They weren't in DC

They were in Virginia, which has reciprocity agreements with the following states:

Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Vermont, Virgin Islands, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Wyoming.

Scalise, LA
Brooks, AL
DeSantis, FL
Rand, KY

And I don't think D.C. would have that big of a problem in providing a permit for members of Congress!

[Lee-Lee]

22. But if they were going to D.C. after that stops them

When you carry you can carry only as much as you can legally do in the most restrictive place you will be traveling to that day.

If your plans include a place where you can't carry or leave it in a car locked (or where you can't carry and don't feel it's a safe enough parking area to leave locked in a car) then you can't carry all day.

[jmg257]

5. I carried in a golf bag once, but then I was police, so I am covered.

Still wouldn't carry while playing ball though.

[NightWatcher]

8. I carry for work, but wouldn't while playing a game either

We can't concealed carry our way out of danger from gun violence. We can begin to legislate so it's more difficult for the type of person who would shoot up a baseball field might have a harder time getting guns and ammo.

[jmg257]

9. We have a bingo! nt

[Lee-Lee]

10. The likely answer but the one you won't like to hear

Is that it's virtually impossible to get a concealed carry permit in DC. Sure, it's possible in theory. Much like in theory it was possible for a black woman to vote in Alabama in 1955- it was in theory possible based on the law but in practice not so much because of obstacles intentionally placed in the way.

Now, before some of you hysterical self defense haters start fuming "but this was in Virginia"- it was. But most of them were probably headed to D.C. later that morning for work or had left from a home in DC. So if your day takes you into a place where you can't carry (and can't even have it in your car locked up the way the law there reads) that means as a practical matter you can't carry all day even if you had a permit and were inclined to do so.

[NightWatcher]

13. So, had they permits, you really think they'd have carried while playing ball?

They wouldn't have done so.

[Lee-Lee]

14. Nope. I wouldn't

But depending on the totality of the circumstances including how secure the area was my pistol may have been in a bag in the dugout with my other items.

Hard to say. Were it me I could have done that it could have left it locked in the car, depending on where I thought it was more secure.

[papa3times]

15. Gun violence in America

will only be taken on by technology advancements(smart guns etc.). Even then the NRA will oppose any form of gun control.

[spin]

17. When the cops actually start to like the idea of carrying a smart gun...

I will consider owning one.

[Baconator]

30. I just can't imagine one I would want...

If it's electronic it can fail, run out of power or be jammed.

[spin]

40. Plus there is always Murphy's law. ...

What ever can go wrong will go wrong at the worst time.

[LakeArenal]

19. Why would anyone need a gun at a movie.. or campus..or a church..

Yet the NRA want everyone armed.. so the Repugs should be the first to be fully armed.

[jmg257]

25. Or while playing ball? Shit happens, I guess...

[LakeArenal]

27. Exactly my point. More guns are meaningless...

[Xolodno]

24. No shooting happened.

This was a false flag op.


FYI...I am being facetious.

[All-In]

26. Quiet Alex

You just got Meghan Kelly fired.

[fescuerescue]

42. They were playing baseball, but their protective detail was carrying concealed