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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:29 PM Jun 2017

So, is everyone clear that between Coats, Rogers and now Sessions, a brand new

never before recognized or accepted privilege has been created? It is the "We're not claiming executive privilege-that would be inappropriate-just in case I'm preserving the right to claim executive privilege-other privileges may apply-in keeping with long-standing DOJ policy which I think may be in writing"-----privilege.

If this blatant BULLSHIT is allowed to stand, it is over.

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So, is everyone clear that between Coats, Rogers and now Sessions, a brand new (Original Post) Atticus Jun 2017 OP
it's bullshit. sounds like steve bannon logic spanone Jun 2017 #1
Thesse interviews were so rehearsed..... bresue Jun 2017 #2
They were. It was almost like (gasp) Sessions KNEW the QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND... Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #19
It's a double-secret executive privilege that only repugs can invoke jpak Jun 2017 #3
Ah, so that's why it was never mentioned from 2008-2016... appal_jack Jun 2017 #16
I vote this. Control-Z Jun 2017 #21
It's the "We were speaking within the cone of silence" privilege Tanuki Jun 2017 #4
Good because it never worked 😁 marylandblue Jun 2017 #7
And when the cone of silence wasn't working...we used the portable cone of silence. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2017 #24
But Sessions went a little further marylandblue Jun 2017 #5
The legal term is contempt. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #6
Chairman Burr would have to invoke contempt marylandblue Jun 2017 #8
I'm sure you're right, but we need to call it what it is. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #9
They invented a bizarro legal argument, tossed out there, and amazingly, procon Jun 2017 #10
I will listen to Norman Goldman tonight. He gives some great legal analysis of the craziness mucifer Jun 2017 #11
Must have an Independent Investigation Commission NOW! BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #12
It's not new, the name is just different... dchill Jun 2017 #13
Contempt of Congress babylonsister Jun 2017 #14
Total bullshit C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #15
They don't want to go on the record because trump will lie and hang them out to dry. NightWatcher Jun 2017 #17
This would mean no president would ever have to claim executive privilege. Purrfessor Jun 2017 #18
They handled him with kit gloves and let him get away w/crap like that. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #20
ACLU needs to challenge this in court. Blue Idaho Jun 2017 #22
Rogers: "I'm just not in the MOOD to testify today..." TrollBuster9090 Jun 2017 #23
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
19. They were. It was almost like (gasp) Sessions KNEW the QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND...
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jun 2017

the Republican ones, I mean.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
16. Ah, so that's why it was never mentioned from 2008-2016...
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jun 2017

What a curious and fascinating privilege!

Or, y'know, Sessions could be a lying, treasonous POS.

k&r,

-app

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
21. I vote this.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jun 2017

"Sessions could be a lying, treasonous POS."

But not "could be". IS. He is a lying, treasonous POS. I'd bet money.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
24. And when the cone of silence wasn't working...we used the portable cone of silence.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jun 2017

Comey reminded me of Hymie the Robot.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. But Sessions went a little further
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jun 2017

And said it was long standing DOJ policy. He went to far, there is no such policy and the committee called him on it, with Harris specifically asking for a copy of the policy.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
6. The legal term is contempt.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jun 2017

It must be dealt with for the very reason that you indicate. If allowed to stand, no Congressional hearing will ever have credibility again.

procon

(15,805 posts)
10. They invented a bizarro legal argument, tossed out there, and amazingly,
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:39 PM
Jun 2017

the damned thing actually flew! It boggles the mind that Republican can get away with this crap with no penalties. They pulled off the same stunt with Judge Garland.

mucifer

(23,569 posts)
11. I will listen to Norman Goldman tonight. He gives some great legal analysis of the craziness
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jun 2017

from a liberal democratic POV.

normangoldman.com his show is on 5pm central time.

dchill

(38,539 posts)
13. It's not new, the name is just different...
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jun 2017

It's called contempt of Congress, it's just not enforced by Republicans on Republicans anymore.

babylonsister

(171,094 posts)
14. Contempt of Congress
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jun 2017

Jennifer Rubin: Contempt of Congress
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2017/06/08/Jennifer-Rubin-Contempt-of-Congress/stories/201706080031

Jennifer Rubin: Contempt of Congress
Intelligence officials shouldn’t be allowed to stonewall at a congressional oversight hearing
Jennifer Rubin
12:00 AM
Jun 8, 2017


Again and again Wednesday at the hearing of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats and National Security Agency Director Adm. Michael Rogers refused to answer direct questions as to whether they had been asked by President Donald Trump to interfere with the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign’s connections with Russia.

snip//

This is outrageous. Congress has an independent obligation to conduct oversight. Witnesses cannot simply decide they don’t want to share. If they could, there would be no oversight.

While they were not under subpoena, the behavior of those testifying yesterday was contemptuous and unprecedented. The committee has the option to subpoena witnesses, demand answers and then hold them in contempt if they decline to answer. (Is that what the witnesses are hoping for, so they will be seen as having no choice?) It is hard to see any reason why Congress should not do so.

A source familiar with his thinking told me, “Sen. Heinrich will seek to get answers one way or another.”

Should Republicans not take these steps, the conclusion should be obvious: They are acting to protect the president from public embarrassment. In doing so, they are demonstrating a lack of respect both for the public and Congress, a branch of government co-equal to the executive.

All of these witnesses and other White House officials act as if they work for the president, not the American people. This is unacceptable in a functional democracy and would, if perpetuated, do serious damage to our democratic system.

They need to tell the truth, the whole truth. Transparency and honesty cannot be optional for members of the executive branch.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
15. Total bullshit
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jun 2017

And if Republicans don't do anything about it... it may come back to bite them in the ass.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
17. They don't want to go on the record because trump will lie and hang them out to dry.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jun 2017

Everyone knows trump will lie and if they go on record, he'll contradict them and ruin their reputation.

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
22. ACLU needs to challenge this in court.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 07:11 PM
Jun 2017

If any organization can turn this BS on its era - it's the ACLU. I'm off to donate (again!)

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
23. Rogers: "I'm just not in the MOOD to testify today..."
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jun 2017
"You can go fuck yourself. ...and I mean that in a totally non-contentious way..."

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