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Oliver Stone is an idiot (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jun 2017 OP
he's a deplorable nt heaven05 Jun 2017 #1
Another useful American idiot Putin can add to a very long list JHan Jun 2017 #2
Every since his idiotic "JFK" NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #3
Agreed 100%. Archae Jun 2017 #12
Agree 100%. Sadly, most Americans still get their "facts" stopbush Jun 2017 #13
Naturally he admires Putin as the master of disinformation BainsBane Jun 2017 #4
Stone, like a lot of Leftists, believe that Putin is still a Communist Yavin4 Jun 2017 #5
Yet he blamed the Soviets for killing Kennedy BainsBane Jun 2017 #7
No he didn't. He blamed LBJ for killing Kennedy. Yavin4 Jun 2017 #10
Was that the only CT that movie BainsBane Jun 2017 #11
The amazing thing about Stone's CTs in JFK is that all of these factions stopbush Jun 2017 #14
ah, makes sense YCHDT Jun 2017 #8
Not Sure erpowers Jun 2017 #6
By my count BainsBane Jun 2017 #9
Fucking Putin Stooge jpak Jun 2017 #15

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
3. Every since his idiotic "JFK"
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jun 2017

I haven't trusted him. He managed to get every single wacko conspiracy theory into that film.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
12. Agreed 100%.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:55 PM - Edit history (2)

There were two facts in "JFK."

Kennedy was shot and killed.
Garrison put Clay Shaw on trial.

The rest of that movie is pure bullshit.

Something the Garrison groupies don't like mentioning, Garrison was a vicious homophobe, and that was in his original theories, calling the "ring" that "murdered Kennedy" a "Homosexual thrill kill group."

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
13. Agree 100%. Sadly, most Americans still get their "facts"
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jun 2017

about the JFK killing from Stone's laughable fiction.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
4. Naturally he admires Putin as the master of disinformation
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jun 2017

since disinformation has been the focus of Stone's life's work.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
5. Stone, like a lot of Leftists, believe that Putin is still a Communist
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:56 PM
Jun 2017

and their hope is that he will revitalize Communism in Russia. In a nut shell, this is the problem with the American left. There's no pragmatism in their thinking. No planning. No working to build sustainable political organizations. There's nothing but blind passion.

It's all about hero worshipping, Snowden, Sanders, Chavez, Putin, etc. It's akin to how religion works. There will be a great savior who will come to our rescue and lead us into the promised land.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
7. Yet he blamed the Soviets for killing Kennedy
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jun 2017

(along with everyone else). So apparently he prefers the Russia of oligarchs and kleptocrats.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
10. No he didn't. He blamed LBJ for killing Kennedy.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jun 2017

To Stone, LBJ wanted to expand the war in Vietnam and helped to stage a coup.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
11. Was that the only CT that movie
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 12, 2017, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Put forward? I thought it threw them all in?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
14. The amazing thing about Stone's CTs in JFK is that all of these factions
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jun 2017

that were at war with each other suddenly united in a plot to kill JFK.

Laughable on its face.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
6. Not Sure
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

I am not sure she was the only one doing her job during that interview. I think she was the main person to take the lead. Gayle King also tried to do some follow up. I will say, for some reason Charlie Rose seemed to be falling down on the job.

However, I will say, Norah O'Donnell is a really good journalist. When she wants to she can really go after an interviewee. She gave Ted Cruz hell during one of her interviews with him. She kept calling out his lack of information and his misinformation. I think she may also have been the one to make Paul Manafort stutter after asking him a question about Trump's ties to Russia.

Oliver Stone did come across as foolish and gullible in that interview. He seemed to believe that a guy who came out of the KGB would not lie to him. Vladimir Putin is a career spy. Of course he would lie to anyone and everyone. Stone also tried to claim that he could not come away with a clear idea of who Putin was after spending only 20 hours with Putin. It does not take more than 20 hours to come away with a clear idea of a person.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
15. Fucking Putin Stooge
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jun 2017

Heard him on NPR this AM.

Thought they were interviewing an RT reporter.

Dis-fucking-gusting.

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