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A recent Facebook post making the rounds - The 99% Needs A Raise (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 OP
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2012 #1
A suggestion cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #2
I think the point is that it's an everyday consumable OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #3
I agree. A list of several items over a wide purchase price range would be most effective. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #5
My first job out of college (in the year 2000) paid $20,823 a year. neeksgeek Jul 2012 #4
Hi neeksgeek, Welcome to DU TalkingDog Jul 2012 #6
Thanks! neeksgeek Jul 2012 #8
Wait, where's the part where money trickles down to guy on the left?? Beartracks Jul 2012 #7
Bush The First didn't call it Voodoo Economics for nothing MattBaggins Jul 2012 #13
And CEO Guy needs a TAX INCREASE!! lastlib Jul 2012 #9
I think $332 an hour (20 times what median guy makes) should be more than sufficient for anyone OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #10
I get the minimum wage earner and the median wage earner... progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #11
CEO guy doesn't drink milk CubicleGuy Jul 2012 #12
Who are you kidding? Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #14
Then gives it to his dog. Caviar gives the CEO gas. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #16
It should show equivalent to gallons of milk earned per hour... CJCRANE Jul 2012 #15
To put it another way... neeksgeek Jul 2012 #17
Less than a tank-load ThoughtCriminal Jul 2012 #24
What about the share holders, which BTW don't work? harun Jul 2012 #18
I'm a shareholder in many companies. I am very much in median wage earner land. OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #19
I was commenting within the context of the graphic harun Jul 2012 #23
Minor quibble: Robb Jul 2012 #20
It's like gasoline - there's regional variance OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #21
That's kind of what I figured. Robb Jul 2012 #22

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. A suggestion
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jul 2012

If I were doing this graphic I would not use a gallon of milk as the example item.

People (myself included) do not have a gut level sense of 0.01 seconds versus 0.1 seconds or even 1 second. We don't operate in those terms.

I would use a new pickup truck. Mister moneybags works a minute or minute and a half. The minimum wage figure works a couple of years.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
3. I think the point is that it's an everyday consumable
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:02 PM
Jul 2012

..but your point is very valid. That truck may never come to Mr. Minimum Wage; Mr. Median Wage can buy it on a five-year note; Mr. CEO makes that truck in an hour and a half.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
5. I agree. A list of several items over a wide purchase price range would be most effective.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

Gallon of milk

Child's Bicycle or Laptop Computer or Item X

Brand new pickup truck

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
4. My first job out of college (in the year 2000) paid $20,823 a year.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jul 2012

About what Mr. Moneybags there gets in an hour.....

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
7. Wait, where's the part where money trickles down to guy on the left??
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jul 2012

You mean that's a MYTH????



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OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
10. I think $332 an hour (20 times what median guy makes) should be more than sufficient for anyone
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jul 2012

After that, it's flat-out greed, and should be taxed accordingly.

 

progress2k12nbynd

(221 posts)
11. I get the minimum wage earner and the median wage earner...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jul 2012

But I don't get CEO guy at all? This can't be representative of CEO's on average as there are thousands, probably tens of thousands of CEO's out there making a couple hundred thousand a year or less, like my hospital's CEO. No chump change for sure but these kind of CEO salaries are FAR more common than the $40m salary that this graphic seems to want to say is the norm.

The creator of this graphic could be a little less misleading and still achieve his intent to show the very real problem here of income inequality; I'm not sure why he chose to use such a misleading extreme.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
16. Then gives it to his dog. Caviar gives the CEO gas.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jul 2012

It's not that the dog likes it, it's the idea that he can afford to feed the dog caviar, so he does.

Same reason the CEO has six house, four of which he hardly ever sees...it's because he can, not because he needs to.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
15. It should show equivalent to gallons of milk earned per hour...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 06:32 AM
Jul 2012

Which would be...

* Minimum Wage Earner: 2 gallons of milk
* Median Wage Earner : 4.5 gallons
* CEO.......................: 5,459 gallons

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
17. To put it another way...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:04 AM
Jul 2012

The CEO could go into the typical grocery store and empty the entire milk cooler in one purchase, and probably have change left from that hour's work.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
19. I'm a shareholder in many companies. I am very much in median wage earner land.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012

In fact, many shareholders would do well to question executive pay at every stockholder meeting and every other chance they got. Not even the CEOs of the most profitable companies should make 1000x multiples of salary (or more) over their average workers.

harun

(11,348 posts)
23. I was commenting within the context of the graphic
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jul 2012

And the point was there is more injustice to the equation than what was being displayed.

We need to take the focus off of income vs. income and on to nothing vs. wealth. The capital owners get to play by a different set of rules.

The problem with you as a stockholder is that the system is setup to make sure you don't actually have any real say in the way things are done. A few very very large holders of shares (institutions) are who really gets to call the shots. They are fine paying the CEO those kinds of wages because their wages (profits, wealth and capital accumation) are much much higher than the CEO's.

So the holders/owners of the Capital are the real ones to compare to the lower and median wage earners. Because one of them is represented in how the company and country is run and the other is NOT.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
20. Minor quibble:
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:09 AM
Jul 2012

I just bought milk, $2.77/gallon for the non-hormone stuff. $1.88 when it's on sale, which is once or twice a month.

Is $3.70 more common?

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
21. It's like gasoline - there's regional variance
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

I think I paid $2 for a gallon of regular, grocery store brand skim last night, but that was on special. Normally, it's like 3.30.

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