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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:30 PM Jun 2017

Wisconsin Voter ID law suppressed 200K votes; DT won by 23K.

And the laws disproportionately affected lower income and minority voters.

So much for the idea that she lost Wisconsin because her message didn't appeal to white working class voters. (Who did vote for her over Trump.)


https://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-suppressed-200000-votes-trump-won-by-23000/

Prior to the 2016 election, Eddie Lee Holloway Jr., a 58-year-old African-American man, moved from Illinois to Wisconsin, which implemented a strict voter-ID law for the first time in 2016. He brought his expired Illinois photo ID, birth certificate, and Social Security card to get a photo ID for voting in Wisconsin, but the DMV in Milwaukee rejected his application because the name on his birth certificate read “Eddie Junior Holloway,” the result of a clerical error when it was issued. Holloway ended up making seven trips to different public agencies in two states and spent over $200 in an attempt to correct his birth certificate, but he was never able to obtain a voter ID in Wisconsin. Before the election, his lawyer for the ACLU told me Holloway was so disgusted he left Wisconsin for Illinois.

Holloway’s story was sadly familiarin 2016. According to federal court records, 300,000 registered voters, 9 percent of the electorate, lacked strict forms of voter ID in Wisconsin. A new study by Priorities USA, shared exclusively with The Nation, shows that strict voter-ID laws, in Wisconsin and other states, led to a significant reduction in voter turnout in 2016, with a disproportionate impact on African-American and Democratic-leaning voters. Wisconsin’s voter-ID law reduced turnout by 200,000 votes, according to the new analysis. Donald Trump won the state by only 22,748 votes.

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The lost voters skewed more African-American and more Democrat. For example, Wisconsin’s 2016 electorate was 6.1% more Republican, and 5.7% less Democrat, than the group of ‘lost voters’. Furthermore, the WI electorate was 3.7% more White and 3.8% less African American than the group of ‘lost voters.’ This analysis suggests that the 200,000 lost voters would have both been more racially diverse and have voted more Democratic.


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Wisconsin Voter ID law suppressed 200K votes; DT won by 23K. (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2017 OP
k&r lordsummerisle Jun 2017 #1
I have liberal friends edhopper Jun 2017 #2
If this is not fixed we are going to continue to lose elections with winning candidates Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #9
yes edhopper Jun 2017 #10
You might call their attention to the fact that the presidential race was not the only still_one Jun 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues Jun 2017 #18
Period, end of story LittleGirl Jun 2017 #20
Same here. agree iluvtennis Jun 2017 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #25
Rigged election by the republicans Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #3
Had to be something l. How else can you justify Johnson over Feingold? Thrill Jun 2017 #4
Enormous Koch dollars? sharedvalues Jun 2017 #19
50 state voter ID here we come. briv1016 Jun 2017 #5
This needs to be spread far and wide! unitedwethrive Jun 2017 #6
K&R... spanone Jun 2017 #7
this should be the lead story on EVER news network. Takket Jun 2017 #8
The multi-faceted stealing of democracy at work. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #11
My state just continues to disappoint me.... Heartstrings Jun 2017 #12
As much as I like "Hizzoner," as Soglin was known in Madison, I don't think Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #16
That's a great option!! Now to find someone to challenge Ryan as well.... Heartstrings Jun 2017 #21
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2017 #13
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2017 #14
All part of the master plan... Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #15
The DNC Needs a Plan videohead5 Jun 2017 #22
Yes! We should already be working on that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #32
And this is how they do it folks. Otherwise they can't win on their (R) philosophy. YOHABLO Jun 2017 #24
This is the ONLY way Reublicans win in Wisconsin. Both parties know it. DFW Jun 2017 #26
It seems to me 14th Amendment addresses this NotASurfer Jun 2017 #27
A lot of talk going round about what democrats need to learn... JHan Jun 2017 #28
KnR Hekate Jun 2017 #29
Voter-Suppression's something I've been talking about ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #30
Yes, and to everything you've just said, I'd just add pnwmom Jun 2017 #31
its up to democrats to INSURE their voters have the PROPER IDs and its no surprise beachbum bob Jun 2017 #33
kick for visibility L. Coyote Jun 2017 #34

edhopper

(33,590 posts)
2. I have liberal friends
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jun 2017

who don't want to hear about voter suppression, Rusian hacking and James Comey.
Instead they rail against Hillary for not winning by more votes.

This election was stolen. Period.

still_one

(92,242 posts)
17. You might call their attention to the fact that the presidential race was not the only
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jun 2017

race run.

Every Democrat running for Senate in those critical swing states, including Wisconsin, lost to the incumbent republican, and these friends do not want to hear about voter suppression. Maybe they should




Response to edhopper (Reply #2)

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
20. Period, end of story
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jun 2017

this was not a valid decision. There was hacking and the totals don't match exit polls.

stolen. right. in. front. of. our. eyes.

Response to edhopper (Reply #2)

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
12. My state just continues to disappoint me....
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jun 2017

Hopefully we have a challenger to Walker in (D) Paul Sorgin, Madison's current mayor...

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
16. As much as I like "Hizzoner," as Soglin was known in Madison, I don't think
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:39 PM
Jun 2017

he would be a viable candidate statewide. He even lost a congressional race in the early 90's in a VERY liberal district, pre-gerrymandering.

I would love to see State Senator Kathleen Vinehout give it a go!

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
15. All part of the master plan...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:36 PM
Jun 2017

Scott K. Walker is just a pawn in the Republican long game, and the citizens of our state are mere collateral damage in the war to turn the Midwest permanently red. They know that national demographic trends are NOT in their favor, so they're turning the former Blue Wall (WI, IL, MI) red.

videohead5

(2,178 posts)
22. The DNC Needs a Plan
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:14 AM
Jun 2017

To make sure voters get the ID's they need to vote.we can beat them at their own game.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
24. And this is how they do it folks. Otherwise they can't win on their (R) philosophy.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:21 AM
Jun 2017

This I hope is the priority of the Dem Party.

DFW

(54,411 posts)
26. This is the ONLY way Reublicans win in Wisconsin. Both parties know it.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jun 2017

So far, only one party has managed to do anything about it, and it's not us.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
27. It seems to me 14th Amendment addresses this
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 01:22 AM
Jun 2017

If a state disenfranchises eligible voters, there's a penalty - that state loses representation in Congress proportionally.

So if Wisconsin sees fit to disenfranchise 9% of its eligible voters, seems to me Federal courts could order at least one less representative, beginning in 2018, until that disenfranchisement has been corrected.

That would also reduce the number of Electoral votes that state has.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
28. A lot of talk going round about what democrats need to learn...
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:15 AM
Jun 2017

It's all noise if we dont understand this - it doesn't matter how great your message is if systems are calibrated to work against you.. Republicans know suppressing the vote works, they also know - thanks to bannon and mercer and their allies - how to weaponise data. If we don't have potent responses to these efforts we will be thwarted time and time again.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
30. Voter-Suppression's something I've been talking about ...
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:37 AM
Jun 2017

For MONTHS if not YEARS OP.

And unfortunately, we still have many Dems and loudmouths & know-it-alls like Sarandon and Cornell West fighting the primaries who still think that Bernie would have wiped the floor with tRump in the GE. Like ANY Dem would have been immune from russia & voter-suppression. Again, do folk like them even CARE about the massive amounts of voter-suppression that took place against the Dem party, or do they seriously think that Bernie would have been immune to the dirty tricks (voter-suppression/allowing the ruskies to interfere into our elections) treasonous tRumputin/the treasonous GOP employed in winning all 3 branches of our government

I stand by my assertion that NO Dem was going to win the 2016 General Election. Not Bernie & not VP Biden, who continues to say that Hillary was a bad candidate (tRumputin wasn't a bad and hideously flawed candidate?) which is why she lost, and that he'd have been a better candidate

Dems will be in for more disastrous Senate losses than thought in 2018, and possibly the Presidency etc. in 2020 no matter how many irate, anti-tRumputin/GOP/ruskie voters turn out to vote. tRumputin/the GOP will have "help from their friends" the ruskies, who'll do whatever they have to do to KEEP the numbers of Dem voters low "enough" to keep tRumputin/the GOP in power so our country will stay paralyzed and in the utter TURMOIL & chaos it's deeply mired in.

What Dems can do about this with 2018 only a year away, I've NO clue. LOOK at who our current Pres. IS:treasonous/racist/insane tRumputin. Look at who the current AG IS: treasonous/racist beauguard. We know what they think about minorities voting and all. Now, we've had a few positive SC rulings concerning voter-suppression and the like go our way: TX and NC, but that's sure to change sometime, so we'd better do the next best thing and talk about the data in this article, and bring up other credible, documented instances of voter-suppression taking place against our party INCESSANTLY and whenever we can in as many places as possible.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
31. Yes, and to everything you've just said, I'd just add
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:07 AM
Jun 2017

that anyone who argues that Bernie would have won is also saying that he would have been more acceptable to the Russian Oligarchs -- who threw the election to DT -- than Hillary. Does anyone seriously believe that? I'm sure Bernie doesn't.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
33. its up to democrats to INSURE their voters have the PROPER IDs and its no surprise
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:31 AM
Jun 2017

that we lost 10's of thousands of votes because WE did not assist our voters. No use in whining about the law, its the law until its changed so mean time spend the time and come up with funds to get our voters the required IDs

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