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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 03:11 AM Jun 2017

Sources tell CNN Trump is celebrating: 'We won. Trump is in the clear. He didn't do anything wrong.'

Link:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-team/index.html

3 questions:
1. Should I take this seriously?
2. Is the public buying this, as Trump did take a little jump at Gallup in his approval post Comey?
3. ABC said on Thursday Comey went nuclear on Trump. So why is Trump's team so gleeful?

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Sources tell CNN Trump is celebrating: 'We won. Trump is in the clear. He didn't do anything wrong.' (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Jun 2017 OP
Trump's own son just said Trump did say to Comey what Trump denied JI7 Jun 2017 #1
Let him take his victory lap before the race is finished. He's in real trouble and Mueller's team is TeamPooka Jun 2017 #2
Absolutely evidence womanofthehills Jun 2017 #41
This is CNN pushing the false equivalency, and double standards, just like they did during their still_one Jun 2017 #3
as a Jew and a Democrat, I can tell you I'm definitely a person Danmel Jun 2017 #17
I am Jewish also. The point I was making was how CNN and other news outlets seem to go out of their still_one Jun 2017 #33
I know and I agree Danmel Jun 2017 #46
An age old tactic of scoundrels declare yourself the winner when by all accounts should be losing. gordianot Jun 2017 #4
It doesn't matter BainsBane Jun 2017 #5
Trump lackey Rosenstein is in control davekriss Jun 2017 #22
Mueller can subpoena BainsBane Jun 2017 #23
Well that helps me digest my cherrios davekriss Jun 2017 #24
You are right, Rosenstein is a REPUBLICAN so he has no moral bottom, we're fucked!!! FreeStateDemocrat Jun 2017 #26
If Senator Harris gets a second crack at Rosenstein in a public hearing avebury Jun 2017 #30
Philosophical question here: DFW Jun 2017 #6
The article is talking about Trump's lawyer celebrating. It doesn't mention Trump himself. Kaleva Jun 2017 #7
Yup, he's in the clear BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #8
There are no tapes oberliner Jun 2017 #10
Oh, you really needed this? BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #11
Yeah, I just think Trump is playing BS games oberliner Jun 2017 #13
They are right that he is in the clear oberliner Jun 2017 #9
Rachel Maddow: It Seems Clear Trump Is Now Under Investigation womanofthehills Jun 2017 #38
Wasn't Rachel Maddow supposed to be releasing his tax returns? oberliner Jun 2017 #48
So far, no "Comey memo"... 4139 Jun 2017 #12
Really? Hobo Jun 2017 #14
The OP question is why Trump is celebrating.... 4139 Jun 2017 #15
Don Jr. seems to be "celebrating" in a manic way womanofthehills Jun 2017 #44
I'm thinking it's probably on Robert Mueller's desk right now Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #28
every trump OP needs this ..... stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #16
Trump is such a good liar rock Jun 2017 #18
Two possibilities . . . hatrack Jun 2017 #19
Mission Accomplished: The Sequel Danmel Jun 2017 #20
Just more lies. The usual bs judesedit Jun 2017 #21
Trump fucking obstructed justice. He may not be impeached for it, since the KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #25
Actually, didn't he say " I hope you drop the investigation" ? or something like that. frankieallen Jun 2017 #34
It's one thing for a friend to say it to another friend. It's another thing entirely when KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #36
"suggestion" being the operative word here. frankieallen Jun 2017 #37
So you don't think Trump obstructed justice, eh? - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #40
Ah, nice try. Please twist my words to mean something completely different that what I said, frankieallen Jun 2017 #43
Have another scoop, Donnie C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #27
No golden carriage ride through adoring fans to meet the queen... Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #29
leaked by the oval office D_Master81 Jun 2017 #31
He thinks this is a media/PR contest. ginnyinWI Jun 2017 #32
You are right about that, re: PR contest. His ego knows no bounds frankieallen Jun 2017 #35
+1 unless he's in handcuffs, he thinks he's winning leftstreet Jun 2017 #42
Let him think he won. It'll make it funnier when he falls. Vinca Jun 2017 #39
Those are the words of Trump's scumbag attorney GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #45
Interesting slant on this post. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #47

TeamPooka

(24,255 posts)
2. Let him take his victory lap before the race is finished. He's in real trouble and Mueller's team is
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 03:46 AM
Jun 2017

full of heavyweight investigators.
These guys are going to eat 'Predisent' Ponzi Scheme for lunch and have his lawyer for dessert.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
3. This is CNN pushing the false equivalency, and double standards, just like they did during their
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:33 AM
Jun 2017

coverage of the 2016 campaign.

When CNN had a discussion topic last year "are Jews people", that speaks volumes:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a50906/are-jews-people-was-a-real/

still_one

(92,403 posts)
33. I am Jewish also. The point I was making was how CNN and other news outlets seem to go out of their
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

way to paint a false picture that this is just a difference of opinion between two political entities.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
4. An age old tactic of scoundrels declare yourself the winner when by all accounts should be losing.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:09 AM
Jun 2017

In Trumps case who would notice or think it mad and unusual he already bays at the moon and his core supporters do not notice.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
5. It doesn't matter
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:18 AM
Jun 2017

The case is with Mueller know. Whether Trump is actually relieved or not is irrelevant. What matters is what Mueller does.

davekriss

(4,627 posts)
22. Trump lackey Rosenstein is in control
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jun 2017

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is in the drivers seat. Special Counsel Mueller reports to him. Rosenstein can fire him at any time. Mueller cannot subpoena anyone, release major info, etc. without Rosenstein's prior permission. And Rosenstein can sit on the Special Counsel's final report, keeping it from public view.

Given that Rosenstein wrote the Comey memo justifying Comey's dismissal (after the decision to fire Comey was made), and given his complete filibustering stonewalling before the Senate committee, I do not have high hopes that Rosenstein will do what's right for the country.

Basically, our former democratic republic has been for the most part captured by Putin cronies. Trump's infrastructure proposal is similar to what happened after the Soviet Union collapsed, i.e. sell off state assets at bargain basement prices to crony oligarchs, who then extract high "rents" from the rest of us. I'm surprised that the media hasn't made that connection (actually not surprised, given who the major media work for).

These are sad times, the collapse of our republic.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
23. Mueller can subpoena
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jun 2017

and he has already been granted authorization by Rosenstein. Rosenstein does not grant authority for specific subpoenas. Mueller only has to go back to Rosenstein if he wants to widen the investigation, and if Rosenstein denies a request, it is referred to congress.

Mueller has already brought two separate grand juries under his control.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
26. You are right, Rosenstein is a REPUBLICAN so he has no moral bottom, we're fucked!!!
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jun 2017

I didn't realize how dirty(complete loyalty oath to the Don) Rosenstein is until you pointed it out, our only hope is that Mueller will be a patriot and take it directly to the American people

avebury

(10,952 posts)
30. If Senator Harris gets a second crack at Rosenstein in a public hearing
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:48 AM
Jun 2017

she should hand him a document where it clearly states that Mueller will not be fired and ask him point blank to sign it. Since Rosenstein is already a witness to the shenanigans to what is going on then his impartiality is already seriously in question. If he is so quick to refuse to sign the document he should be asked why is he so quick to flush his own reputation down the drain.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
6. Philosophical question here:
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:30 AM
Jun 2017

Is it still considered a victory lap if there are uniforms waiting to put you in handcuffs before you cross the finish line?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Yeah, I just think Trump is playing BS games
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:59 AM
Jun 2017

Lies in his tweets. Gets all the media talking about his nonsense. Then finally admits it was bull.

womanofthehills

(8,771 posts)
38. Rachel Maddow: It Seems Clear Trump Is Now Under Investigation
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jun 2017

The MSNBC host outlines why she’s “pretty darn sure” the special counsel is looking into a potential obstruction of justice.

Fired FBI director James Comey testified that President Donald Trump wasn’t under investigation, but that’s likely no longer the case, according to Rachel Maddow.

Trump is very likely now the target of an obstruction of justice probe, she explained on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” Friday. The host said she concluded this after Comey essentially said so under oath — twice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/maddow-obstruction-of-justice_us_593b7b54e4b0c5a35c9fc6fa

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. Wasn't Rachel Maddow supposed to be releasing his tax returns?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jun 2017

As much as I like her, she has a tendency to overhype things.

4139

(1,893 posts)
12. So far, no "Comey memo"...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:51 AM
Jun 2017

Comey had lots of time before the hearing to print out a copy of get it back from his friend...the memo is what the entire planet was talking about...why no memo?

Comey not having the memo I sure made trump bigly happy.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
28. I'm thinking it's probably on Robert Mueller's desk right now
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jun 2017

But if you want to bet against me, please proceed.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
19. Two possibilities . . .
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:47 AM
Jun 2017

1. Spin and nothing more.

2. President Shitstain is so fucking stupid he actually believes this.

Danmel

(4,925 posts)
20. Mission Accomplished: The Sequel
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

Trump's premature victory lap​ minus the flight suit (which can't be made large enough) and the codpiece (which can't be made small enough).

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
25. Trump fucking obstructed justice. He may not be impeached for it, since the
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

fascists control the bodies who would be responsible for impeachment. But anyone with two brain cells understands that Trump obstructed justice when he asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. That is an exemplar of a "high crime and misdemeanor" mentioned in the Constitution.

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
34. Actually, didn't he say " I hope you drop the investigation" ? or something like that.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

any lawyer or politician on the f**ckin planet can argue that one successfully.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
36. It's one thing for a friend to say it to another friend. It's another thing entirely when
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jun 2017

a boss says it to a subordinate, especially when that 'suggestion' (or "hope&quot might lead to Trump himself skating.

Jeesh!

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
43. Ah, nice try. Please twist my words to mean something completely different that what I said,
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

The meaning of what i said, pay attention now....
is that Drumpf will not be charged or convicted on that statement. In fact, it is so easy to argue what the word "hope" means, that it would be pointless to bring it up in hearings in front of a Judge.

Do you understand now King? Please don't respond, this conversation would only go downhill from here, as you accuse me of the next thing.

Freethinker65

(10,054 posts)
29. No golden carriage ride through adoring fans to meet the queen...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

Trump is not in celebration mode.

Time for some domestic photo-op ego boosts, followed by exaggerated decalarations of success. Perhaps followed by three scoops of ice cream with sprinkles and a sparkler?

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
31. leaked by the oval office
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jun 2017

to me this is a leak to continue to try and spin public opinion. why would someone celebrate being called a liar? even if he doesnt get charged w/ anything his credibility takes a hit.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
32. He thinks this is a media/PR contest.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:00 AM
Jun 2017

Like a reality show: if he gets the best ratings, best poll numbers, etc, then he has won. He has the power and can then defeat all adversaries! So he plays the victor in the media.

But there is a little matter of the law and the Constitution. Those things don't tend to be sways by approval ratings!

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
45. Those are the words of Trump's scumbag attorney
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:15 AM
Jun 2017

Whose job it is to prop up the emperor, who, by the way, is wearing no clothes. The real substance, is several paragraphs down.

When I see declarations by Trump or his people of victory, I automatically assume the opposite.

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