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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you donate blood to an unrelated ignorant right wing bagger if it meant saving their life?
I would. Wouldn't even hesitate.
How about you?
This is not a trick question.
Don
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Politics does not make me wish death on others
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)(That way their IQ would increase to 95)
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Jim Kenefick has had an obsession with Michael Moore for years, even setting up Moorewatch.com, which boasts it's Watching Michael Moores every move. On his blog he recently wrote about the difficulty he was having paying his wifes medical bills.
Kenefick then received an email from an anonymous donor asking to pay his premiums of $12,000. He accepted. Now the NY Daily News has revealed from a third source that the generous donation came from Michael Moore himself who couldn't be reached.
A friend of Moore's seemingly confirmed by saying, We sure are happy Jims wife received the care she needed. Kenefick admits the money turned his life around, but is still outraged at the filmmaker whom he believes is using him to promote "Sicko".
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=62549
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Without question.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Its going to save a fellow human being. That's the only thing that matters
Taverner
(55,476 posts)NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)hlthe2b
(102,336 posts)especially if their name is "Limbaugh"...
wandy
(3,539 posts)Yup; that would be about right.
I could follow my basic instincts.
Then after the dumb bastard recovered...
I could follow my basic instincts.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)"He said, 'Yes, he's afraid it is.'"
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)yewberry
(6,530 posts)So yeah, our blood goes wherever it's needed.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)To say otherwise makes one less than human.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Or do I need to even ask?
Don
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Woody Woodpecker
(562 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)That's not so hard to understand, is it?
I would give my blood to anyone who needed it, without qualification of any kind. That's not so hard to understand either.
I'll stick by my opinion that anyone who would willingly cause harm to another is less than human. I can understand how that puts you on the defensive, but it is what it is.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Can't say it was nice knowing you.
Have a great day.
Don
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And you don't know me.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)And ask if they would donate it.
People with generous hearts are people with generous hearts, and also tend to be those most willing to accept from others that are generous.
See what happens if you ask there. It would be a fascinating sociological experiment.
handmade34
(22,757 posts)everytime I give blood!!
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)And I am not going to try and change your mind or try and shame you either.
You must have your reasons.
Don
hlthe2b
(102,336 posts)Journeyman
(15,037 posts)so they painted him with a chemical that darkened his skin, then pretended he'd received the "wrong" blood. It was a humorous take with a poignant ending.
Perhaps that would be the best result. "So tell me, Bubba: Feel like voting Obama in November? How ya gonna resist?"
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The entire USA is that bigoted soldier and it is just now starting to notice the harm they are doing.
http://www.kens5.com/news/national/Ban-on-gay-blood-donors-gets-a-closer-look--161682395.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/06/health/gay-men-blood-ban/index.html
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)I am the only person I know who feels this way, and it's based solely on my life.
I was born dead, severe heart condition, open heart surgery as a tot, etc., so I had lots of blood and lifesaving measures. Unfortunately, I was saved, to live a life of severe abuse by my parents and brother. Yeah, I outgrew a lot of that, outgrew the hatred, outgrew most of the PTSD, but I've never changed my mind about not giving body parts or pieces to save another.
Their lives, even in my case my life, might have been worth saving, but I question whether the world deserves every saved life.
It's weird though, if I see someone harming, beating, degrading another, I have to butt in and end it, been beaten a few times for doing such and continue to do it anyway. But ask me to donate blood or sign up for organ donation, not happening.
I get this will annoy many, but don't get too pissy with me, I'm doin' the best I can, and even if I was willing, I'm too slender, I'm not allowed to give blood, I did try once just to try to force myself out of this mindset, and they sent me home.
Maraya1969
(22,491 posts)NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)I can tell you are a good person from reading your post.
No one is going to get pissy with you here.
I promise.
Don
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that I'll do it for you, Lionessa , and I'm hardly that robust at all. We do what we can, and what we can't, we don't do, and no one should make you feel badly about that .
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)opportunity to do so.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)One that passes it on. That's all anyone asks, and even though I can only do it twice I year, I will pass it on. When one barely weighs over 110, one can only donate so often, even for loved ones that have issues.
I do it faithfully, though, because I had a bad car accident and people had already done it for me . I'm incredibly healthy now, and it is my duty.
permatex
(1,299 posts)and I highly respect that. It doesn't annoy me in any way.
Woody Woodpecker
(562 posts)I admire your courage and your decision. I respect that 100%
I have given my blood many times, and have no qualms about it - I donate at the local blood place even though I haven't done it in awhile. I am due, so I'll probably do it this week
Spazito
(50,432 posts)Maraya1969
(22,491 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)I donate on a regular schedule. Bet you I have donated to a sick person without insurance.
Tikki
Vinca
(50,301 posts)Leftie blood in him would haunt him every day.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...every time he went Teahappy after that.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)...who saved their bacon back in WW2? How's your blood pressure these days?"
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I'm not sure they'd do the same but that doesn't matter; I choose to live my life differently than they do.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)StopTheNeoCons
(893 posts)nt
BumRushDaShow
(129,344 posts)Worf's blood can be made compatible with an injured Romulan's blood. Worf considers it after much consternation but then the Romulan-in-need insults the hell out of him, and Worf changes his mind and refuses. The Romulan then dies.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)they just wanted to go with that storyline, so never mind about Vulcans and Romulans being related.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Guess I would.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)sandyshoes17
(657 posts)thats the difference between us.
PCIntern
(25,575 posts)Just kidding...yeah but I don't have to like it. Do I?
liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)I just donate blood. I don't ask where it's going. Somebody else can make that decision and that's good because I'd rather not know.
Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)I donate whole blood and platelets regularly. If I was selective about who it went to, I would be as bad as the ignorant right wing baggers.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,755 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)people) in such an important way.
flobee1
(870 posts)I would also hope my leftwing blood infects them with a little common sense and compassion!
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So it is not a concern of mine.
permatex
(1,299 posts)Why the hell not?
panader0
(25,816 posts)and he was urging the repeal of the anti-gay blood donation rules. He said the rules were put in place over 30 years ago during the height of the AIDS epidemic scare and that science has evolved since then. He said that many gay people, especially those in a commited relationship are less of a risk than straights that have multiple partners. He said lifting the ban would mean a lot more blood in the blood banks. Soon, perhaps.........
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I would be kind of bummed if it saved certain people's lives--Dick Cheney's or Rush Limbaugh's--but there are only a few people I would afterwards regret saving (although I'd do it for anybody who wasn't currently in a position of power; I'd have had to think twice about saving Cheney's life in the leadup to the Iraq war, for example, because of the lives that would have been saved had he not been around). For most right wingers, I would do so gladly. I would be genuinely curious about what their answers would be for the likes of us. I hope it would be the same.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. These are people that would happily kill us if they could. And that is no exaggeration. I take them at their word.
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And I donate blood regularly since I am a much wanted type, even though I am pretty small, and it takes a lot out of me. I can only give twice a year due to my weight and size.
O- is in demand. I'm a petite woman, but I give as often as I am able.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)I wouldn't want to be contacted by them later on. I don't care how appreciative they may be.
But I would bitch the whole time.
MichaelMcGuire
(1,684 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,863 posts)doc03
(35,362 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Which ought to remind us that we aren't so damned different.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)what kind of person wouldn't?
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)no matter their politics, they are still fellow human beings.
I donate as often as possible as I am AB- which is quite rare.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)You don't donate blood because the person dying or in need voted for Obama.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)healthcare is a right for everyone. If it means I am asked to participate with a tiny contribution for anyone, I will.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And hopefully my liberal germs are now swimming and reproducing throughout their system!
Robb
(39,665 posts)Sperm, no.
TeamPooka
(24,245 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)easy question...yes yes yes
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)These days, I'm not allowed to donate due to meds but I was a blood donor for years and I'm sure that some of my blood ended up going to people I despised.
spin
(17,493 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)brewens
(13,615 posts)Being a big guy with a high platelet count, they can usually get three units out of me per donation. I think I've donated 82 times plus a couple gallons of whole blood along the way. There had to have been a few real assholes receiving my blood.
I don't know if he ever received any of my blood, but we had a real asshole hospitalized getting transfusions a couple years ago. He was the plant manager at a local mill for years. My job is registering donors at blood drives and sometimes our local fixed site. We had some of this guys family and Elks Club cronies come in and donate on his behalf. You can donate and give a patient a credit that amounts to a small rebate off the cost of a unit they receive.
That bastard had actually stepped in years ago to screw me out of a job at a local business the mill did a lot of business with. He wanted that job for his son. His son was a little arrogant jr prick until he scrambled his brains in a motorcycle wreck. It turned out he really didn't want that job anyway. It was just something for him to do while dad found somewhere to hide him at the mill. He had to be babysat for months until the place he got hired at got rid of him.
It was kind of tough doing my job, knowing a prick like that was being helped by it. In the case of someone like that getting my blood I'd at least like to be able to send a little note along with it. Something like, "you don't deserve it but I'll help save your life ASSHOLE!"
I am not consumed by so much hate as to allow someone to die
Iggo
(47,563 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)But their signs would be mis-spelled. Watch for them!
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,846 posts)Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)
Woody Woodpecker This message was self-deleted by its author.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)rurallib
(62,434 posts)like others I probably have over the years
45 years of donations - one pint probably went to some peckerhead
noel711
(2,185 posts)Of course, yours is a hypothetical quesion;
When we donate blood (or any of our post-mordem organs)
we have absolutely no say in the identity of the recipient.
All those news stories about people stepping forward to donate
a kidney to a stranger, or bone marrow to a dying child are rare;
only in the case of relatives.. or close friends do you know the recipient.
But.. in most cases.. the donor has no say at all.
We step forward, give our blood to an organization,
and the blood is used ..... when in need.
And that is how it should be.
I don't want to know..
Do you think that everyone is so gracious?
I am sure there are some folks who would stipulate
who and where their blood (etc) should be used.
In the past years, the support of the public for
public services has sadly diminished.
And seeking the public good has gone the way of the Edsel.
People are brainwashed into individualism...
and that is a sore tragedy.
petronius
(26,603 posts)dembotoz
(16,825 posts)donated for some time now
odds would be yes i have
blm
(113,083 posts)I wish they didn't vote the way they did, but, I cared enough about democracy to make sure they were able to vote.
rug
(82,333 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)Even though the favor would likely not be returned.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)It is a relatively easy task that can lead to helping a lot of others. The answer should be yes for pretty much everyone, I would hope.
Now if the question was giving a lung or kidney or similar, you might start seeing some different answers.
I am not a donor. It's simply something I am not comfortable with. If a close relative of mine were in danger of dying, I would strongly consider it. But not for a stranger.
applegrove
(118,749 posts)underseasurveyor
(6,428 posts)and I probably would but I'm not entirely sure. More than likely you're not going to know what their politics are. But I swear if they're part of the, 'home scholers for perry' crowd, absolutely not
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)They'd eat you if they could.
(Which is the same argument I'd use for NOT being a vegetarian).
Omaha Steve
(99,693 posts)I'm O+ and CMV virus negative: http://www.springhillems.org/files/bloodbank/BabyBlood.pdf
My donations to go the elderly, babies, those with lowered immune systems, etc.
Dear Steven:
Thank you for giving blood with the American Red Cross on 5/18/2012. After first ensuring local needs were met, your double red cell donation was sent to Boone County Health Center in Albion, NE and Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, NE to help patients in need. Your donation is on its way to changing lives!
Every day, patients like Tim receive blood for a variety of conditions including life-threatening illnesses, blood disorders and traumas. Your blood donations are critical to helping save patients' lives.
On behalf of the hospitals and patients we serve, thank you for being a Red Cross blood donor.
Sincerely,
David C. Mair, M.D.
David C. Mair, M.D.
Chief Medical Officer
Mid-America Blood Services Division
American Red Cross
guardian
(2,282 posts)I'm O Neg (universal donor) and CMV negative. The people at the blood bank tell me they reserve my blood exclusively for preemies. If I forget to go down the will often call me on the phone asking me to come donate.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)my husband had a bone marrow transplant, he and his donor, are both CMV negative. We do no need to worry about anything else
His wrist band, in case of an accident, lists CMV negative blood ... among other things.
GarroHorus
(1,055 posts)I wouldn't be friends with them, but I would donate blood for them.
Great Caesars Ghost
(532 posts)TCKnight
(2 posts)One of the things that I hear over and over again from the left when discussing illegal immigration is that "no human is illegal." With that, not sure why folks would refrain from donating blood if the person did not meet some criteria. I'm proud to have recently surpassed 10 gallons in donations. Undoubtedly, the blood has gone to folks that both look like me, and look a bit different. I'd even say that more than 75% of it has gone to someone that does not meet all of my "attributes."
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Any real Democrat should answer "yes".
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)And I reply "Because I'd pay for yours."
It really separates what kind of morality works and what's keeping us in the shitter.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)when I donate blood I have no idea who is the recipient.
it could be a right wing racist or a left wing liberal.
I have no idea.
do you not donate blood?
it's not a trick question.
Java
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)for the record, until they said no... cocktail of medications, I was a regular at your local blood bank.
pinto
(106,886 posts)In a heartbeat.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)I wouldn't want anything on my conscious, their conscious is their own concern.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I used to give 3-4 times a year for at least 25 years. Twenty of those years were here in the land of ignorant rightwing baggers. So odds are, at least a few pints went into some of these idiots. Would I do it again? Sure, if they could get the blood out of me. The main reason I quit giving was because it got too difficult for most of the bloodmobile staff to find a good vein without digging for 10 minutes.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)FBaggins
(26,756 posts)A double... So one is bound to go to my right.
Warpy
(111,327 posts)I'd also want them to know the blood wasn't 100% "white."
However, yes, if I could give blood I would give blood and I wouldn't care who got it. My type is relatively rare and always in demand. Unfortunately, they don't want my blood.
I know a couple of teabaggers who had enough horrible stuff happen to them that they finally woke up and aren't baggers any more. While there is life, there is hope, so helping someone extend it is not a waste of resources.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)It's the right thing to do.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)But!
They would kill you for your gold teeth if they were sure they'd get away with it. Jesus. They have the collective conscience of a Ted Bundy. Look around!
Actually... No, hell no.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)After all, these are people that believe health care should come at a price.