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H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:47 PM Jun 2017

Re: Comey and Mueller

Dick Cheney: “How can you possibly be reversing course on something of this importance after all this time?”

James Comey: “I will accept for purposes of discussion that it is as valuable as you say it is. That only makes this more painful. It doesn't change the analysis. If I can't find a lawful basis for something, your telling me you really, really need to do it doesn't help me.”

Dick Cheney: “Others see it differently.”

James Comey: “The analysis is flawed, in fact facially flawed. No lawyer reading that could reasonably rely on it.”

David Addington: “Well, I'm a lawyer, and I did.”

James Comey: “No good lawyer.”

Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency; Barton Gellman; Penguin; 2008; pages 295-296.



As we wait for Mr. Comey to testify on Thursday, I thought it would be fun to review his interactions within the Bush-Cheney administration. Most people remember his intervening when two White House officials attempted to illegally get John Ashcroft to sign on to an enhanced “patriot act” from his hospital bed. But the confrontation detailed above – which took place a few days before – is less well-known. Gellman's book is perhaps the best resource regarding this chapter in our history.

VP Cheney was attempting to keep information on the upgraded domestic spying program secret from everyone in the administration, except a very few individuals. Indeed, unlike the “patriot act,” this program was classified at the highest level, just like the code word information Trump recently leaked to his Russian buddies. Cheney hoped that the pressure to replace the current program, set to run out in a couple days, would force the Justice Department to sign on.

Cheney and his friends were not happy that Ashcroft said he would not sign on, unless Comey was brought in. Thus, the tense meeting noted above, in which Addington shouted, “If you rule that way, the blood of the hundred thousand people who die in the next attack will be on your hands!” at Comey. The following day, when Comey arrived for another meeting with Cheney, he was refused entrance. And this is what led to the infamous conflict at Ashcroft's hospital bed.

Ashcroft's wife had instructed the hospital that absolutely no calls were to be put through to her husband's room. Andrew Card and Alberto Gonzales attempted to get through, but their call was rejected. Either one of them, or perhaps Cheney, got President Bush to call – he got through – and inform the Ashcrofts that Card and Gonzales were on their way over.

Comey was informed of their plan, and he rushed to Ashcroft's hospital room. What hasn't been reported on very often is that Comey called the FBI director, Robert Mueller, and had him inform thew guards at Ashcroft's room that Comey could not be removed when the White House ghouls arrived.

It is well known that Comey prevented Card and Gonzales from accomplishing their goal. More, as Gellman documents, Card would order Comey to go straight to the White House later in the evening. Comey told Card that after what he had witnessed at the hospital, he would refuse to meet with Card without the solicitor general of the United States present.

Comey would then hold an emergency meeting at the Justice Department. If the Cheney forces got Bush to over-rule him, Comey would resign. Numerous others stated that they would, too. This group included FBI director Mueller. Earlier in the evening, Mueller had said, “There comes a time in every man's life when the good Lord tests him.” Comey, Mueller, and the others passed that test.

Gellman writes about how the Cheney people tended to bad-mouth Comey, increasingly in the days leading up to the showdown, including around Bush. Interestingly, Bush was known to say, “Oh, Cuomey? He's a great guy!” – mistakenly mispronouncing Comey's name in the manner of team Cheney (who attempted to connect him with Andrew Cuomo, who they despised).

In fact, when Bush met with Comey in the days after the hospital conflict, and learned about the potential resignations, Bush would agree with Comey's position, rather than Cheney's. And, as we all know, in time the decision was made to appoint Patrick Fitzgerald to investigate the Plame scandal, an illegal attempt by the Office of the Vice President to conduct a “black op.”

From this episode, I think it is safe to say that Comey and Mueller are willing and able to confront the abuse of executive power. Indeed, they coordinated their efforts in the past, and they are coordinating their efforts now.

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Re: Comey and Mueller (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2017 OP
I hope we don't end up with an another WhiteTara Jun 2017 #1
Convicting Scooter H2O Man Jun 2017 #2
It's sort of like if Eric goes down and Jared goes down WhiteTara Jun 2017 #3
Recommended. Tatiana Jun 2017 #4
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #8
Lord yes, I really want to see Pence go down too. What you said. Hekate Jun 2017 #17
I think Sessions H2O Man Jun 2017 #27
How do we know that Flynn is turning? n/t moonscape Jun 2017 #34
Agreed on all three points. Tatiana Jun 2017 #47
"James Comey: No good lawyer. !!! Mme. Defarge Jun 2017 #5
I respect Mr. Comey. H2O Man Jun 2017 #9
Thank you. Mme. Defarge Jun 2017 #14
I have absolutely no doubt that Comey would have done the exact same thing had Clinton StevieM Jun 2017 #20
I am terrified by the prospect of Comey being vindicated. StevieM Jun 2017 #22
Great analysis, my dear H20 Man. K&R n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2017 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2017 #10
Interesting! coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #7
Yes. H2O Man Jun 2017 #11
Interesting that you say Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #18
Right. H2O Man Jun 2017 #26
"The generals" are an interesting proposition. McMasters has apparently been sucked in ... Hekate Jun 2017 #29
I wonder H2O Man Jun 2017 #32
Now That There Is A Good Question Me. Jun 2017 #60
Thanks! K&R... spanone Jun 2017 #12
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2017 #13
Great post Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #15
Well, well. Between your OP and Rachel's thing on the lawyer joining Mueller, I am quite cheered... Hekate Jun 2017 #16
Great point Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #21
Although Comey is a Republican... Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #19
Mr. Comey H2O Man Jun 2017 #24
That assertion is belied by Mr. Comey's political donations: Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #48
In other words, H2O Man Jun 2017 #54
Well, if you consider last year to be "many years ago" Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #55
There is no possible argument. H2O Man Jun 2017 #56
The "argument" is that "ONE year" is not "MANY years" Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #57
Wrong. H2O Man Jun 2017 #59
That is not what Wikipedia says Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #64
I don't need to. H2O Man Jun 2017 #65
Really? I have respected you in the past, H2O Man Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #66
Inspiring H2O Man! Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #23
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2017 #25
I suspect the transcription is facially flawed.... unblock Jun 2017 #28
wrong H2O Man Jun 2017 #33
Then I'm tickled even more ;) unblock Jun 2017 #36
I am going to H2O Man Jun 2017 #39
all right, all right, don't get your nose bent out of shape ;) unblock Jun 2017 #43
My nose is fine. H2O Man Jun 2017 #44
i did not know you were a boxer! i did not intend my joke to be on the nose! unblock Jun 2017 #45
Thank YOU.💖 those days seem long ago.. furtheradu Jun 2017 #30
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2017 #31
Knr voteearlyvoteoften Jun 2017 #35
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #40
K&R wryter2000 Jun 2017 #37
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2017 #41
K&R. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #38
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #42
Thanks for this important historical anecdote, H2O Man. robertpaulsen Jun 2017 #46
Thanks, Robert! H2O Man Jun 2017 #51
You're welcome! robertpaulsen Jun 2017 #72
I think Comey did H2O Man Jun 2017 #75
I almost feel sorry for McCain. robertpaulsen Jun 2017 #77
Right. H2O Man Jun 2017 #78
Wow RP Me. Jun 2017 #62
Good to see you too! robertpaulsen Jun 2017 #73
It Does Seem Bigger Me. Jun 2017 #74
That's what really does it for me too: the finances. robertpaulsen Jun 2017 #76
I Also Suspect Greater Criminality Related To Finances Me. Jun 2017 #79
Here is Comey's full statement coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #49
Yes. H2O Man Jun 2017 #52
PM me when you're finished coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #67
Okay. H2O Man Jun 2017 #68
wish I could brother coeur_de_lion Jun 2017 #71
Excellent WaterMan malaise Jun 2017 #50
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2017 #53
Aaah, The Lead Up To The Plame Days Me. Jun 2017 #58
I find myself H2O Man Jun 2017 #61
This Is Getting So Interesting Me. Jun 2017 #63
A DU reunion. H2O Man Jun 2017 #69
Indeed! Me. Jun 2017 #70

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
1. I hope we don't end up with an another
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:53 PM
Jun 2017

empty Fitzmas. That was deeply disappointing and this is so much worse.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
2. Convicting Scooter
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:01 PM
Jun 2017

was big. Libby refused to turn on Cheney. It was Congress that absolutely should have pursued Cheney's role -- as Patrick recommended.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
4. Recommended.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:14 PM
Jun 2017

Excellent points and very good use of history. CNN also provided a good summary of this very topic in May.

There is a trio of patriots here: Mueller, Comey, and Bharara. Between these people lies the truth about what happened to this country and how Trump and his masters managed their coup. I am still ultimately glad that Comey was fired because we got Mueller and I believe Mueller has the skill set and experience, without the ego or desire for recognition. This is Comey's biggest flaw and a common one among leaders.

I also believe that there are some in leadership roles (in both parties) that don't believe this country can handle the truth. They would rather watch our nation decline in stature at home and abroad instead of confronting the biggest Constitutional dilemma we have ever faced.

How do you address an election that was stolen? What is the remedy?

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
8. Thanks!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jun 2017

James Comey is of Irish heritage, from Clanna Woulfe. Thus, as much as I'd like to argue otherwise, I must admit that he may -- at times -- come off as being a tad theatrical .....and possibly as a "just look how smart I am" type of guy. But he is a solid investigator and prosecutor.

Mieller, by nature, offends far less people. And that has advantages.

I agree with your assessment of the cowardly, unpatriotic character of many of the elected representatives in DC. Think of how many of them have taken campaign contributions from Trump. And that's the tip of the ice cube when it comes to the money.

It's essential that Pence gets kneecapped in this, too. Once Trump is being impeached, we don't want to hear that he is "the one man who can bring America together." Flynn is turning now, but if he alone says that he didn't lie to Pence -- he didn't -- there needs to be others to support that. If it's just Flynn, it is his word against Pence's.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
27. I think Sessions
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:02 AM
Jun 2017

could play a role in this. He is a snake, though a little one. A fucking creep. A liar.

However, he was in the outer circle, per Russia. Flynn dipped him, with the meetings with the ambassador. Sessions got caught, and hence his recusal. The news is saying that is why Trump is increasingly mad at poor Jeff. But there is more. Much more.

Trump spoke with Sessions several times about Comey. This included leading up to the firing of Comey. The cover story was the bit about the Clinton campaign; however, Trump blew that out of the water. Sessions has since attempted to put a wall between himself and Trump on this subject. He is, of course, following his lawyer's advice. That's why Trump is so pissed at him. And why Sessions has offered his resignation. He will turn on Trump by mid-July.

And, if he turns on Trump, he'll have to expose Pence's role.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
47. Agreed on all three points.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:15 PM
Jun 2017

More people will be willing to work with Mueller and give him the evidence he needs. Some were put off by Comey (Rosenstein's letter gives us a big clue. He never would have written such a blisteringletter if he was the only person that held that viewpoint.)

My disappointment in our DC officials is great. There are some, like Schiff and Waters and Cummins who are prepared to confront the truth. But they are running up against a wall.

I maintain it is essential to gain evidence of Pence's participation in this coup and to impeach him as well. I would actually prefer to have Pence impeached first and leave Trump in temporarily as a lame-duck without a VP (Congress should deny approval of any appointment) to prevent the ascension of Paul Ryan. Trump is too arrogant to resign. If we take back the House in 2018, that would give us a Democratic Speaker, at which time we should impeach and remove Trump with the assurance of a Democratic successor for President.

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
5. "James Comey: No good lawyer. !!!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:19 PM
Jun 2017

I have long been confident that Comey will be vindicated for his role that, most probably, affected the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
9. I respect Mr. Comey.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jun 2017

Had the ex-president not met with the Attorney General on an airplane, Comey never would have made the public appearance.

A lot of factors combined in 2016, to help Trump. None more important than the Russian coordinating with Trump's campaign.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
20. I have absolutely no doubt that Comey would have done the exact same thing had Clinton
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jun 2017

not met with Loretta Lynch.

He intervened in the race, over and over again. He certainly had no right to do what he did 11 days before the election.

I think Comey was much more important to the election result than Russia. He turned the race upside down and the research date proves it.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
22. I am terrified by the prospect of Comey being vindicated.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:37 AM
Jun 2017

And he didn't just affect the outcome--he dramatically reshaped the race.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
11. Yes.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jun 2017

Trump will not complete his second year in office. In fact, it could end this fall.

Still, the most dangerous time for our constitutional democracy is between his firing Comey, and his exit. Those who believe that Trump will create an international crisis -- most likely intentionally -- in this time have valid concerns. Keep an eye on the Middle East.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
18. Interesting that you say
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jun 2017

"keep an eye on the Middle East," because we just learned about the fued between the Saudi's and Quatar.

So much going on that I can't keep up with it all.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
26. Right.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:53 AM
Jun 2017

That news is unsettling. It could become worse, quickly. I am hoping that "the generals" have agreed to not act on any insane commands from Trump.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
29. "The generals" are an interesting proposition. McMasters has apparently been sucked in ...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:39 AM
Jun 2017

...to Trump's worldview, or liberated to express his own now that he is in the overtly political sphere -- that is, the world as the US has tried to shape it since the end of WW II is not interconnected and co-operative, but really an inherently hostile place of competition in a zero-sum game. In other words, it confirmed my suspicion that everyone with a good reputation that Trump pulls into his orbit gets dirty one way or another.

Like you, I hope there is in the Pentagon a core group with an understanding that Trump is unstable, even insane, and that extreme caution must be their byword.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
32. I wonder
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:08 AM
Jun 2017

if McMaster is actually a jackass, or if he is simply playing a role publicly, so that he is included on inside-the-administration conversations. I suspect the second option; if so, it must be somewhat humiliating for him to play along.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
15. Great post
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:09 AM
Jun 2017

I'm so tired of people running Comey down. I know there are many who are very unhappy with some of his actions but to accuse him of being a republican pawn is grossly unfair.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
16. Well, well. Between your OP and Rachel's thing on the lawyer joining Mueller, I am quite cheered...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:31 AM - Edit history (1)

However, just a word of caution to our more excitable and impatient DUers: her leadup covering said lawyer's career included his working more than a decade to bring down two major Mafia dons. It took a long time to amass all the info and make sure it was so solid it could not fail.

To which I can only add: it's a damn good thing there weren't any impressionable young analysts (ahem) in his office who figured the public needed to know all the evidence collected 5 years before he was able to bring down the second crime boss. Because then the guy would have gotten away with his crimes after all.

Just sayin'

Edited to add: the lawyer's name is Weissmann

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
21. Great point
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jun 2017

and so true. The wheels of justice move slow, especially when you have reason to be worried. But, taking the time to get it right is worth every nailbite.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
19. Although Comey is a Republican...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jun 2017

...I have no doubt in my mind that he has been trying to do what he believes is right by the country - within his flawed view.

It has been a long time since I can honestly call someone on the other side "the honorable opposition". But in this case, it is fit.


Naturally, of course, this led to him being fired by the rest of the Republicans.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
24. Mr. Comey
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:51 AM
Jun 2017

is not a republican. He was a registered republican many years ago. But not in recent times. He is, however, rather conservative.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
48. That assertion is belied by Mr. Comey's political donations:
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jun 2017

$2,300 to John McCain in 2008
$2,500 to Mitt Romney in 2011
$2,500 to Susan Brooks in 2011
$2,500 to Mitt Romney in 2012


And while he said he is no longer a registered Republican, it is more a lack of registration than anything.

I do though think that he was mostly embarrassed by Trump.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
55. Well, if you consider last year to be "many years ago"
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jun 2017

I don't, but it's not a big enough deal to argue about.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
56. There is no possible argument.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:02 PM
Jun 2017

As I noted, Mr. Comey is not a republican, and hasn't been for many years. 100% accurate. I also said he is conservative. Again, I am 100% correct.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
57. The "argument" is that "ONE year" is not "MANY years"
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jun 2017

But beyond that small inaccuracy in your statement, I agree.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
59. Wrong.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jun 2017

Mr. Comey was not a republican a year ago ....no many how many times you incorrectly say he was.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
64. That is not what Wikipedia says
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:55 PM
Jun 2017

Comey only announced his decision to not be registered as a Republican less than a year ago.

Google this. You're smart enough to do that.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
66. Really? I have respected you in the past, H2O Man
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:28 PM
Jun 2017

I didn't think you were going for the whole deciding that your opinions were more credible than actual published and referenced facts.

But whatever.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
39. I am going to
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jun 2017

speculate that your focus was on the word "facially." If that wasn't it, I apologize.

The word has a specific meaning in its legal sense. It goes a bit beyond the obvious "on the face of it," though that actually applies. A facial challenge to a statute, or proposed law, is a process of constitutional law, that claims the statute or proposed law always violates the US Constitution (rather than has the potential to violate it in specific circumstances).

unblock

(52,206 posts)
43. all right, all right, don't get your nose bent out of shape ;)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:24 PM
Jun 2017

i get it now, i can appreciate the desire for a shorthand way of saying there's a prima facia argument against something....

i still find the "facially flawed" phrase very amusing....

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
44. My nose is fine.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:29 PM
Jun 2017

After boxing in 329 fights, no one ever bent my nose out of shape. It's not likely that anyone's inability to understand the meaning of a word could do any damage to it.

unblock

(52,206 posts)
45. i did not know you were a boxer! i did not intend my joke to be on the nose!
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

on the other hand, i had to have my nose reconstructed after a car accident many years ago.

so it seems that both i and my vocabulary are facially flawed.

and perhaps my sense of humor as well....

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
30. Thank YOU.💖 those days seem long ago..
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:59 AM
Jun 2017

But for some of us, they shaped our World.
I expect a LOT in the next 2 days.

Thank YOU for reMinding us of
of who Comey is, & has been..
& who We are, & where We have been.
..& where We are going.
Thank YOU. 💖

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
46. Thanks for this important historical anecdote, H2O Man.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jun 2017

Mueller will hopefully be very thorough in his investigation. Regardless of what Comey reveals or does not reveal Thursday, there is still so much more criminality in the Trump administration yet to be explored beyond the purview of the Trump/Comey obstruction story. But it is helpful to look back on his prior efforts to speak truth to power. I particularly loved his dig at Addington. It would be refreshing to hear some similar dig at Trump - "No good president would ask such a question."

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
72. You're welcome!
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jun 2017

Always good to read your take on things.

What do you think of the proceedings this morning?

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
75. I think Comey did
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jun 2017

very well. Poor John McCain humiliated himself, though he probably has no memory of it.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
77. I almost feel sorry for McCain.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jun 2017

Not quite, considering so many of his bad stances over the years, but now his chance to bow out gracefully has passed.

Comey came off as a straight shooter and also gave me the impression that he is still keeping some ammo in reserve where classified info is at play. I feel pretty secure there will be more details for him to reveal to Mueller's special counsel. Like the Senators, I really want to read those memos he made expressly because he thought Trump is a liar!

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
78. Right.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jun 2017

I felt sorry for him as a human being. But not as a US Senator. (I felt guilty for laughing out loud!)

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
73. Good to see you too!
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

Does this whole scandal seem bigger than Plamegate? I really hope justice is served.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
74. It Does Seem Bigger
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jun 2017

Because of all the tentacles and the complete corruption regarding the finances of 45. I don't know who is worse, at this point, for different reasons, 45 or Cheney, though both have been/are perilous for this country.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
76. That's what really does it for me too: the finances.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jun 2017

My hope is that Mueller will leave no stone unturned; which would entail complete examination of all financial documentation for the past 20 years (including tax returns) connected with foreign countries as well as domestic entanglements with foreign actors, such as Russian mafia. I think at a minimum this would show a Constitutional violation of the emoluments clause. But I suspect there is far greater criminality.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
79. I Also Suspect Greater Criminality Related To Finances
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jun 2017

And I think his sons pointed the way when a year or so more they said they received buckets of money from the Russians. 45 sold that house in Fla. for far more than it was worth and of course, there are the sales of apartments in 45 Tower. I think they are up to their necks in hock to the Russians, captives to whatever Putin wanted/wants.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
49. Here is Comey's full statement
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jun 2017

Care to comment, Mr. H?
[link:https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/os-jcomey-060817.pdf|

>>snip
On the morning of April 11, the President called me and asked what I had
done about his request that I “get out” that he is not personally under investigation. I replied that I had passed his request to the Acting Deputy Attorney General, but I had not heard back. He replied that “the cloud” was getting in the way of his ability to do his job. He said that perhaps he would have his people reach out to the Acting Deputy Attorney General. I said that was the way his request should be handled. I said the White House Counsel should contact the leadership of DOJ to make the request, which was the traditional channel.

He said he would do that and added, “Because I have been very loyal to
you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.” I did not reply or ask him what he meant by “that thing.” I said only that the way to handle it was to have the White House Counsel call the Acting Deputy Attorney General. He said that was what he would do and the call ended.

That was the last time I spoke with President Trump.

<<snip

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
52. Yes.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jun 2017

I'm going to write up a quickie on Sessions, then I will dissect this letter.

It's good. Very good.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
61. I find myself
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jun 2017

thinking of the beginning of the movie The Exorcist, when the old pries was in the desert, and recognized an old foe's presence.

This country needs to get this straight this time.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
63. This Is Getting So Interesting
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jun 2017

I was thinking it had a familiar feel to it and then I saw RP upthread and it really did.

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