Putin wants chaos in the USA.

[NightWatcher]

He's still fighting the Cold War and part of his plan is to destroy the USA. He's doing this by installing an entire organization that he can manipulate to sow disaster in the USA.

trump is too stupid to have any plans of his own. He's nothing more than a useful idiot for Putin.

trump will continue to do things that will cause disaster here and he probably has no idea that he's doing it. He's an agent, everyone in his administration is an agent of Russia that is actively engaged in non conventional war again us.

And the republicans are not only enabling this, but they are cheering him on.

Note: this can be reposted any/every time he does something like this Paris Accord withdrawal.

[nini]

1. Well. he's got it

[UT_democrat]

2. Mission Accomplished

We are in a shit spiral of epic proportions

[ProudLib72]

3. It's something globalists don't get

Putin wants to revive the Cold War and reclaim the Soviet Union. It's beyond most people's thinking. But not the nationalists, not the isolationists. Those are the very ones who support Maggot.

[nocalflea]

6. Globalists don't get it ? NATO ? Macron , Merkel , Graham, McCain ?

It's not the recreation of the Soviet Union ,it's political survival in the guise of "Empire" that Putin is after.

The Trump /Putin alliance supporters are delusional. Putin does not want to "Make America Great Again". He wants a weak and destabilized America. If there was no "resistance " to Trump, Putin would have tried to create one (they definitely are trying to infiltrate the resistance as it is).Putin is about survival , power , money - business as usual. A weak , ineffective, politically unstable America is his goal no matter who is president.

[ProudLib72]

8. Britain didn't get as late as Brexit

No one got it with sanctions after Crimea that didn't amount to anything. They might be catching on now. Macron and Merkel get it. I'm pretty sure that Graham and McCain would support Maggot giving back the Russian compounds and lifting sanctions.

[nocalflea]

9. Disagree. Why go to so much trouble to have sanctions lifted if ineffective ?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administrations-secret-efforts-ease-russia-sanctions-fell-short-231301145.html

(don't forget about the change in the platform at repub. convention re: Ukraine)

Just because Russia still holds Crimea does not mean the sanctions haven't been painful.Giving up Crimea is a no win solution for Putin-it screams of weakness.The Russian people bought into his lies about the annexation (the Crimeans were begging for relief from the evil Ukranians) , imagine how they would feel if Putin "abandoned" Crimea.

I refuse to believe McCain and Graham will cover this up - they are not stupid . The writing is on the wall. They have been bidding their time.As McCain has said there are many shoes yet to drop.The leaks will not stop. McCain and Graham know this. There are many republicans who share this view. This is new territory for everyone.We have never had a traitor in the WH before.There is no precedent.That's why it's so damn messy and frustrating. Before you accuse Potus of anything approaching "high crimes and misdeamenors" you better damn well have evidence. ( What it will take to move the apologists , god knows , but soon there will be nowhere for them to hide.)

I do agree with you about Brexit.That's something isn't it ?

[ProudLib72]

11. Actually, I think we do agree

When the sanctions were passed, I was surprised by Putin's stoicism. Now it's pretty obvious that he knew tRump would win and the sanctions would be lifted quickly. Russia's pushiness trying to reacquire their compounds in the last couple of days seems rather suspect. It's as though they aren't completely sure they will be returned now.

[nocalflea]

14. Its essentially over and they know it.Don't have anything to lose at this point , so why not be brazen ?

[Blaukraut]

13. Globalists DO get it. Isolationists are the ones who are naive about Putin's goals n/t

[ProudLib72]

15. What I mean

is that, until recently, globalism was accepted as fact in the left leaning world. We knew that there was an undercurrent of nationalism and isolationism, but we thought only a very small minority held those views, nothing of consequence. Now America has become isolationist and nationalist. France was poised to become so. Certainly, Russia is pushing their propaganda out there to rile up the minority, but we are now seeing that there are actually a lot of deplorables worldwide.

[Blaukraut]

16. This is true. But Liberals were in favor of some type of isolationism not too long ago

Especially during the Bush/Iraq years. I'm starting to think it's impossible to be isolationist militarily, and globalist economically. It's either both or neither.

[CanonRay]

4. We're in a death spiral

no doubt about it

[C_U_L8R]

5. Let's just get this over with.

Death by a thousand Trumps is inhumane.

[dalton99a]

7. Trump was a perfect hire

[bresue]

10. The fall of USSR was an embarrassment to Putin

their totalitarian state which they cloaked in communism, did not stand up to the test of time.

So pay back....embarrass the US back! Anything else received in the transaction is sugar on the cake.

[L. Coyote]

12. They want to break up the USA and sell it all to the lowest buddy plutocrat bidders.

A la USSR, take everything and divide it up among your Mafia friends.

[nocalflea]

17. The thug life. I hope they devour each other.