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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMelania does it again - now in Rome!
At the top of the stairs after landing in Rome, he goes for her hand and she jerked it away.
She is pissed about something.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)enough
(13,259 posts)He must not remember what happened the last time.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)marlakay
(11,477 posts)And he isn't watching news, didn't tell him about it because no one wants to be on trip with crazy mad man. Tv wouldn't have it on news in Saudi or Isreal maybe Italy.
Atman
(31,464 posts)PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Melania is from Slovenia which is one of the nations that were once part of Yugoslavia.
Slovenia was the most modern and Western (geographically and in culture) part of the former Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia was communist but a non-aligned nation that was not part of the Warsaw pact during the Cold War.
Slovenian the language is from a different language family from Russian.
Melania gained her own celebrity as a Western European model that came to the USA,
Melania is a materialistic person and a gold digger that married Trump but there is zero chance that she is a "gift from Putin".
That is ludicrous.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)I don't feel sorry for her. I imagine she's a jerk, as well.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)She is a gold digger and used her looks to get money and celebrity and to marry Donald Trump.
Melania made her situation and to her benefit and I do not feel sorry for her and also believe she is an entitled jerk.
But she didn't come gift wrapped from Putin and left behind the communist system for excesses of the West even before meeting Trump.
Otherwise I agree 100% with you.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)I won't argue with you on that. I just don't like her, but you're right, she isn't Russian, and (probably) never had any contact with Putin or Trump's Russian beauty contests.
athena
(4,187 posts)"gold-digger". It specifically refers to a woman who marries for money. It perpetuates the idea that women are shallow and self-centered. There are other ways do criticize Melania Trump without resorting to that word. Even just saying that Melania married Trump for his money is better than calling her a "gold-digger" because the former is a statement about a specific person, and the latter is a stereotype that damages women in general.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Too many people are shallow and self-centered.
Both Donald and Melania Trump appear shallow and self-centered.
Maybe reflexively blaming everything on Putin and Russia is also not always that productive not accurate?
Saying Melania was a "gift" from one man to another is also a stereotype that damages to women in general.
However, Melania is the type of women who finds ways to benefit from a patriarchal system.
athena
(4,187 posts)I agree with all the points you have made. And thank you for understanding.
The women who think they're playing the patriarchy for their own benefit are kidding themselves. In the end, no amount of money can give one even a fraction of the pleasure of sharing one's life with someone one can talk to and trust.
ETA: Someone else on another thread just said they thought it's possible Melania really fell for Donald at one time. It's indeed possible; narcissists can seem very likable in the early days of a relationship. Self-confidence is extremely attractive, and they seem to have an unlimited supply. We'll never really know Melania's innermost thoughts, so perhaps it's best to give her the benefit of the doubt?
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)DFW
(54,410 posts)Since when? Russian is a Slavic language. Slovenian is a Slavic language.
I've been to Slovenia, if only briefly. To those people who didn't understand German or Italian, I tried my Russian, and we were able to communicate on a rudimentary basis. Like French and Portuguese, both Latin languages, they are by no means mutually intelligible like the Scandinavian languages, but they ARE from the same family.
The rest may be true, but the linguistic info is 180°
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)is separated by geography and much time of divergence
Slovenian is South Slavic and Russian is East Slavic. Chart I can't get to post.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Slavic_languages_tree.svg
Map of Slavic languages:
I spent two plus weeks in Yugoslavia in 1981, not that long after Tito died. It was an interesting trip in that my exe and I visited two college friends, a couple, from Cal. One was a Cal PhD archeologist doing dissertation fieldwork in Yugoslavia and the other was a Cal Phd Linguist then writing her dissertation whi is now a full professor at the University of Toronto. The archeologist had lived with his parents in Yugoslavia growing up as the father was with State Department in Yugoslavia and in 1981 was with State Department in Romania. So both has residency and spoke Serbo-Croatian fluently and the linguist noted the differences in the various dialects (her PhD work was about the Francophone-Anglophone issues in Canada, she is a French Jew born in Mexico city and raised in Quebec,
Yugoslavia was nothing like expected and I am disappointed never to have returned after all these years. We traveled into Yugoslavia from Greece by train and had a car for two weeks. We took a final road trip from Belgrade to Dubrovnik and then up to Split where our "local" friends flew back to Belgrade. We traveled the coast as far as Opatija, Croatia (for Eastern Orthodox Easter) then traveled to Ljubljana, Slovenia. We visited some incredible karst caves in Slovenia and left the car - Zastava 101 - in Ljubljana and went by bus through the Dolomite Alps and into Trieste.
Beautiful part of the world and the people were very friendly. The only other "tourists" we met were there was a tour group of Russians at the hotel where we stayed in Dubrovnik.
I am obviously not a linguist but Slovenian and Russian are on different branches of the Slavic language tree.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Same language, but you'd swear we were from different countries if you were a visitor from abroad.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Mexico; Serbo-Croatian and Slovenian differ far more from Russian than English in different parts of the USA.
My friends could speak Serbo-Croatian fluently and converse readily where we went in Yugoslavia but could not speak with the Russian tourists in Dubrovnik. They did not travel with us to Slovenia but went back to Belgrade.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)I think someone has been coaching him about how not to look like a selfish douche.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Am guessing he saw it too.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)" Come here to me" body language.... She's not a child...The gesture is not about affection but image control.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Well, technically only ONE is, but still . . . .
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Melania will be moving into so she can be closer to Barron's school...
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Maybe he insisted. That is a good way to piss someone off, I'd think.
"Take your tiny hands off me, Donald!"
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)He has been making unwanted moves on other women throughout the whole trip and she is pissed.
bdamomma
(63,883 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Can't even think about that shriveled baby carrot hiding behind his tie.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)No way is he getting it up unless he takes a truckload of Viagra. However, he could be one of those flaccid gropers. Lots of talk that a divorce settlement was prepared but then he "won" the presidency so it was never filed.
God does she look depressed!! I wonder if she will still move to the White House.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Last edited Tue May 23, 2017, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if years from now, long after Trump has passed on, that either Melania, Ivanka or Jared comes out or is outed as the source inside the WH.
Look how long it took Mark Felt to publicly admit he was Deep Throat.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Recruit attractive women to pose as models in NYC and meet rich men ... just the sort of thing Russia would do. This fits Occam's razor quite well when one considers Trump's history.
Boomerproud
(7,955 posts)The whole WH "staff" doesn't even try to hide anymore-why should she? Does she deserve him-yep.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Maybe she can ask the Pope for sanctuary.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Maybe he would.
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)livetohike
(22,147 posts)world leaders to believe he's a family man. She's part of the charade and I don't have one bit of sympathy for her.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Link to tweet
Unlike a lot of other people, I feel sorry for her. It is likely that he has emotionally abused her and holds custody of Barron over her head. No woman deserves that.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)she was in it too far to exit.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Plus, he has no moral compass because he just doesn't care... it is all about him (insert the mental health diagnosis here).
The only people he cares about are some of his children, only because he sees them as an extension of himself.
She is a victim. Whether she was/is a willing or unwilling victim is immaterial. She is still a victim.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Until then, fuck her. She made her deal with the devil and now the rent's due...pay it or get out but don't paint me the picture of the suffering "victim" here. She has options, she just doesn't like the risks involved in executing said options.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Like Moostache said, "She knew what she was getting into, and she was willing to trade her happiness for it. That was the bargain she negotiated with the devil. He wanted eye-candy. She wanted the 3 top floors of Trump Tower. No empathy here. She obviously likes the arrangement, since she even brings her parents with them on trips.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Or...might have been her using hair in her face as an excuse to not hold his hand.
LostinRed
(840 posts)Looks like coincidence I didn't see a "jerk" but still funny
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Definitely not a coincidence to me.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)yardwork
(61,652 posts)Her hair was not moving and was not in her face. She deliberately moved her hand away as soon as he touched her.
True Dough
(17,311 posts)that the hair in her face is mostly on the other side. She seems to react very rapidly as soon as she feels Donny touch her hand.
It think it was evasion.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I don't feel sorry for her, but I am enjoying her public displays against him.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)qanda
(10,422 posts)She has a choice to go or stay. Her inability to be principled does not deserve my pity.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)I guess she couldn't do the "Discretely push the hand away so no one notices" move again because then, people, like us, would be talking.
thecrow
(5,519 posts)Hmm
Hekate
(90,714 posts)I'm tired of all the folks here who reflexively despise her solely on the basis of her husband's money. On the whole, all they do is display their personal ignorance of the impact of domestic abuse -- emotional, mental, and physical. We have plenty of evidence that Trump is abusive, and in my experience precious few abusers change or stop.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He isn't trying to make some nice jesture or be seen holding hands with his wife. He is scared shitless of walking down the stairs without her help. She should add a little Emmitt Smith head fake for fun.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)wishstar
(5,270 posts)Probably even more prevalent rejection of him after what was revealed during campaign about his inappropriate grabbing of other women
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Russians. She has had it and knows he's finished.
montanto
(2,966 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Next she will just trip him - hahahaha
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)He knows how Ford got treated and depicted in the media after his well documented stumbles. So, of course, stairs and steps are fraught with possibilities of a misstep. Plus, at 70 going on 71, his balance issues might be undermining his confidence to navigate the steps without a trip or fall. Now that would be YouTube gold! tRump falling from the top of those steps from AF1 all the way to the tarmac! Kerrr-splat!!
Melania is clearly telegraphing how she really feels about tRump. Remember how we all KNEW that the Obama's had a real relationship and truly loved each other?? Well, Melanie's closely guarded secret is oozing out her pores. She detests tRump, wants nothing to do with him, except maybe his money and the child she had with him. I agree with others who have said she probably is trapped by tRump with threats and manipulation if she leaves him. It doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure out he controls her (or tries to) like he does everyone else...through fear and intimidation.
Maybe she is squirreling away some money and property and one day will walk away. In the meantime, she has provided some much needed comic relief with her rebuffs to his overtures of "affection".
MrPurple
(985 posts)oasis
(49,390 posts)Luz
(772 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)Ever since he put his hands on the orb, he can't keep his hands to himself.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Vinca
(50,279 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)progressoid
(49,991 posts)PatSeg
(47,509 posts)and walked ahead of her like she wasn't even there, it is not surprise that she is retaliating. She probably knows that he is reaching for her hand just for the cameras, not out of any affection.
MrPurple
(985 posts)though they'd probably decide that speculating on his personal life was below the belt.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)She needs to make sure he can get down fast to get it over with.......with her foot.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Melania is a gold-digging ho' who -- went she hopped into bed with Trump -- figured she was on Easy Street. She'd marry this old fart, make certain he puts here in the will, fakes delight when he bangs her, have one kid for him, then watch the old guy die after which she would bag up her millions and marry some younger rich guy who treats her right. She didn't realize she was marrying an abusive, philandering, self-centered, ignorant POS.
And now he has forced her into the public eye where she clearly did not and does not want to be.
No wonder she's pissed. It didn't work out too well . . . she'll still inherit a boatload of money but now she'll have to endure the presidency to get it.
burnbaby
(685 posts)Do you really believe she is upset because she is the FLOTUS?
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)She didn't realize she was marrying an abusive, philandering, self-centered, ignorant POS.
If she didn't realize this before marrying him, she didn't do her due diligence. Yeah, I know many narcissists can turn on the charm when it suits them, but the whole Ivana/Marla thing played out in the press, much to Trump's delight.
No sympathy from me for marrying the loudmouth buffoon.
I agree that it doesn't seem like politics and being first lady is/was ever part of what she signed on for, though.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Danascot
(4,690 posts)bought and paid for concubine is going off script. Not just snubbing him but humiliating him and making him a laughingstock for the entire world to see. Watch your back and don't eat anything he hasn't tasted first, Melania.
bdamomma
(63,883 posts)jerk.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)She was graceful when she did it, as if she has a catalog of ways to avoid touching that spiritual leper. Especially after that whole hands on the glowing orb thing. Maybe it WAS magic. Maybe she's seeing him and herself clearly now & will never let him touch her again.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)She had to marry him and despises him. If it weren't for her son, and I'm sure Trump's threats to take him away from her, she would probably stay as far away from that man as possible. Imagine that sweaty orange idiot on top of you - there really isn't enough money in the world that would make most people tolerate that.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)The look on her face in that photo, to me, said: "I married an idiot".
Nay
(12,051 posts)head. UGGGGHHHH.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)OMG!!
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)It is not worth the billions or millions of dollars. She has snatched her hand away from his a few times a while back.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)Trumpykins has never been known for his fidelity and power is supposed to up the attractiveness factor. I should not have eaten before I wrote that. To me, Trump has no redeeming qualities and is not attractive in the least. However, mom always said there's a lid for every pot.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)She appears to really hate his guts. He did something mean she will never forgive him for.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)He did something that hurt their son. That would explain it too. Sadly, I can see Trump being cruel to an 11 year old.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)yardwork
(61,652 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)Now she has to look what's in it.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)2nd time is a deliberate go screw yourself. She knows exactly what she's doing.