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RandySF

(58,925 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:02 PM May 2017

GOP senator: Pence deserved better treatment at Notre Dame

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) says that Vice President Pence “deserved better treatment” during his stop at the University of Notre Dame, where a large group of students walked out of his commencement address on Sunday.

“It is especially unfortunate that students walked out of the vice president’s speech on Sunday — because if any young people needed to hear how important freedom of speech is to our country, it would be them,” Cotton said in a statement Monday, according to NBC News.

“I think the vice president deserves credit for speaking out on the spread of intolerance at college campuses — and I know he deserved better treatment than what he received this weekend.”

A group of Fighting Irish graduates stood up and began to walk out as soon as Pence began speaking.


http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/334636-gop-senator-pence-deserved-better-treatment-at-notre-dame



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GOP senator: Pence deserved better treatment at Notre Dame (Original Post) RandySF May 2017 OP
Meh. The students didn't interfere with Pence's free speech. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #1
+1000 Freethinker65 May 2017 #11
Let's strike up the band! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2017 #2
you dont automatically deserve respect, you earn it.nt. drray23 May 2017 #3
and we deserve a better Vice President. spooky3 May 2017 #4
And we deserve a better Senator from Arkansas... Wounded Bear May 2017 #39
Cotton Go Fuck Yourself Shit Head. TheMastersNemesis May 2017 #5
Walking out is ALSO free speech. wildeyed May 2017 #6
Who are the "special snowflakes" now? Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #22
Can't wait until.the UofA has Tom Cotton as a speaker. They sinkingfeeling May 2017 #7
Hey Tom Cotton-Fuck you and fuck Pence... flotsam May 2017 #8
Freedom of Association. These students Dawson Leery May 2017 #9
Pence is a fuckstick. Brainless as a silicone dildo. A tool. hunter May 2017 #10
I think those young people understand Phoenix61 May 2017 #12
Yes, Brave students & respectful protest. Alice11111 May 2017 #31
Yeah Tommie. sheshe2 May 2017 #13
+1 Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #24
+1 WellDarn May 2017 #37
They did not stop him from speaking. Ilsa May 2017 #14
Pence haz a sad ProudLib72 May 2017 #15
Damn, is Pence really Roger Stone's little brother? Elwood P Dowd May 2017 #29
OMG! I didn't even see that till you pointed it out ProudLib72 May 2017 #40
Damned if you do, damned if you don't gratuitous May 2017 #16
Better call the whambulance. Another whiny little witch. Cry me a fucking river. onecaliberal May 2017 #17
Hey Tom: we know the game. McConnell has a rotation assignment list NCjack May 2017 #18
No, he did not deserve better treatment. Doreen May 2017 #19
So...we're supposed to be tolerant of the intolerant? Generic Brad May 2017 #20
Good one!!! ailsagirl May 2017 #25
That's pretty much the "religious liberty" argument in a nutshell. Nt Bleacher Creature May 2017 #28
He got better than he deserves. Solly Mack May 2017 #21
I wish the whole lot of graduates had exited ailsagirl May 2017 #23
What he really deserves is a swift kick in the ass Elwood P Dowd May 2017 #27
The entire country (and planet for that matter) deserves better from Pence. Nt Bleacher Creature May 2017 #26
I would refuse to listen to an anti women's rights activist like Pence applegrove May 2017 #30
Freedom of Feet! panader0 May 2017 #32
so was the land of cotton wearing a white hood? nt msongs May 2017 #33
And Americans deserve better than Mike Pence mountain grammy May 2017 #34
Respect is earned, pal C_U_L8R May 2017 #35
The guy who thinks gay people should be forced to get electroshock therapy to "cure" them Warren DeMontague May 2017 #36
Students have worked hard to get to Graduation at Notre Dame, the day is about them. salin May 2017 #38

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,739 posts)
1. Meh. The students didn't interfere with Pence's free speech.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:06 PM
May 2017

He could talk all he wanted; nobody stopped him.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
6. Walking out is ALSO free speech.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:18 PM
May 2017

Free speech means you get to say what you want. It does not mean that you are protected from criticism of what you say and stand for. Christ, GOP needs to grow some skin. WE DO NOT LIKE MIKE PENCE. We will NEVER like Mike Pence. In all honestly, no one REALLY likes Mike Pence. He has a face like a thumb and about as much charisma. Wah! Snowflakes, all of them.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
8. Hey Tom Cotton-Fuck you and fuck Pence...
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:19 PM
May 2017

You call us "snowflakes" and then throw a childish tantrum when anyone disagrees with you. If you want students to be mandated to attend your shitshow go to Liberty "University". Notre Dame is an actual education center and some students who have educated themselves about you and walked out-that's also freedom. You guys claim to support that, right?

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
9. Freedom of Association. These students
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:26 PM
May 2017

were under no obligation to sit and listen to the illegitimate VP.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
10. Pence is a fuckstick. Brainless as a silicone dildo. A tool.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:26 PM
May 2017

Was he invited by a deplorable, or did he ask?

Either way,

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
12. I think those young people understand
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:29 PM
May 2017

exactly what free speech is and they exercised that right, in a very respectful manner. They didn't boo or jeer or in any way prevent Pence from saying whatever he wanted to say. They choose not to listen to a hypocritical, hate-filled, pompous ass.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
31. Yes, Brave students & respectful protest.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:14 PM
May 2017

They had not even gotten their diplomas. They didn't yell, throw tomatoes or interrupt him. He should be appreciative of them!

I'm very glad they are drawing attention to Pence. His obvious lies are getting lost in the continual stories regarding DTs outrageous corruption.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
13. Yeah Tommie.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:32 PM
May 2017

I bet you gave a similar comment every time your team disrespected President Obama.

...........................................................

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.

4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.


http://politic365.com/2012/01/27/the-10-worst-moments-of-disrespect-towards-president-obama/


Oh...just look at how many times the President was called a boy. I just bet you rushed to his defense....

Conservative pundit Dinesh D’Souza calls Obama a “boy” from “the ghetto”
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/18/conservative_pundit_dinesh_dsouza_calls_obama_a_boy_from_the_ghetto/

Lawmaker sorry he called Obama 'boy'
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-14-davis-obama_N.htm

What were two Republicans thinking, calling Obama 'tar baby' and 'boy'?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0803/What-were-two-Republicans-thinking-calling-Obama-tar-baby-and-boy

Limbaugh repeatedly refers to Obama as a "boy" and a "man-child"
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2009/10/27/limbaugh-repeatedly-refers-to-obama-as-a-boy-an/156204


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**You know Tom...respect is not an entitlement, it is something that you have to work darn hard to earn. Neither trump or pence deserve respect because they do not respect our Constitution, this Country or it's people. So Tommie...STFU!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Pence haz a sad
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:35 PM
May 2017

You all better apologize right now for the way you've treated VP Snowflake!

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Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
29. Damn, is Pence really Roger Stone's little brother?
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:06 PM
May 2017

They sometimes look like they were hatched from the same turd.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:37 PM
May 2017

Silent walkout is intolerant. Shouting down overprivileged fuckhead is intolerant. Please let us know, Sen. Cotton, just what sort of protest against oppression would earn the Arkansas Seal of Approval?

Two-faced sell-out. Don't you have another letter to write to your buddies in Iran?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. Hey Tom: we know the game. McConnell has a rotation assignment list
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:44 PM
May 2017

for GOP senators to respond to perceived DEM insults. It was your turn. But, we know that if Joe Biden had been the speaker, and students walked out, you would have praised those students. Tom, you are just a simple tool.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
19. No, he did not deserve better treatment.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:51 PM
May 2017

By the way Cotton you stupid shit, walking out silently IS a form of free speech. Sometimes silence can speak louder than words. You obviously heard it. You might not like it but you did hear it.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
27. What he really deserves is a swift kick in the ass
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:05 PM
May 2017

right out of the White House to the closest prison.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
30. I would refuse to listen to an anti women's rights activist like Pence
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:13 PM
May 2017

and a homophobe. Be a man and don't whine. That being said I don't believe comedians should be attacked when they speak on campus. But it is a personal choice. That is too far for me. Pence is bullshit. Comedians punch through to truths. Universities are places for open thought, not for right wing social engineering that puts regular Americans into crisis so rich white men don't have to pay taxes. Walking out of your own commencement is free speech in itself.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. The guy who thinks gay people should be forced to get electroshock therapy to "cure" them
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:24 PM
May 2017

is worried about intolerance?

salin

(48,955 posts)
38. Students have worked hard to get to Graduation at Notre Dame, the day is about them.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:29 PM
May 2017

Not about Mike Pence (who was in a shaky reelection campaign for gov when trump plucked him out of that iffy election to be trump's running mate.)

Kudos to these kids. ("whatever" hand held up to Senator Cotton.)



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