The sitting President of the United States is an enemy of our country. Let that sink in.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

That is an extremely sobering truth that we have to come to terms with.

I do not make that charge lightly. There have been other presidents who grossly abused their powers and embarrassed the office--Richard Nixon and George W. Bush immediately come to mind.

But this is different. This is worse.

Donald Trump needs to be legally removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural life.

Period.

[Botany]

1. Trump has cheated, bullied, stolen, or was born lucky for everything in his life so ...

... why would anybody think he would not cheat or steal for POTUS?

[Sculpin Beauregard]

2. The entire Trump admin are agents of Russia.

Many GOP are complicit.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

3. Agreed! All need to go. Including scotus pick.

Then and only then will the cancer be removed.

[dalton99a]

4. Yep.

[Eyeball_Kid]

10. The clarity of your statement should not rest easy with any of us.

It's easy to get jaded by media overload. Yes, crisis this and crisis that. Breaking news, breaking news. Blah, blah.

As a nation, we tend to assume that, for as long as we have television, the world is safe. The Constitution doesn't matter if we can turn on our TVs and see programming.

This is a serious problem, and the reason that the entire nation isn't IN THE STREETS, RIGHT NOW, with outrage, and why Trumpy isn't being dragged out of the White House and beaten to a pulp.

[workinclasszero]

35. That's right

As far as I'm concerned, Vladimir Putin performed a successful coup on America and installed his handpicked puppet Trump into the White House.

Trump and his entire government are traitors and illegitimate as hell. The fucking republicans that let this tinpot dictator POS get away with his Tuesday night massacre of Comey are just as guilty as he is!

[WinkyDink]

44. Moreover, this coup was not a sudden whim on Putin's or Trump's part. Might even

have been decades in the planning, as the Russians made deals, lent money, bribed, wined, dined, entertained, and seduced, and.....

made tapes.

Career-, if not even life-, destroying tapes. Blackmail that weak and greedy men would commit treason in payment of, telling themselves that the United States wouldn't be TOO damaged.

[workinclasszero]

46. I don't doubt that a bit

Trump has been tired to Russia for years.

[Sculpin Beauregard]

50. Yup. The next days are crucial. Resist, scream, protest, march!! Do not give in!

[WinkyDink]

43. Exactly. I'm baffled by all the "Is this worse than Watergate?" posts.

YES, DAMMIT, IT IS!

IT'S A COUP D'ETAT!

[workinclasszero]

53. "IT'S A COUP D'ETAT!"

You are absolutely right IMO.

People on the left are still in shock I think. Or grieving over what this country has become. I know I am.

Various factions in the democratic party are still fighting each other while Nero Trump burns down the country.

Its fucking sad all the way around.

[WinkyDink]

55. I'm late to the realization, but all the goading to re-hash our Primaries might be a "Divide and

Conquer by Distraction" ploy.

[workinclasszero]

56. That thought has crossed my mind as well

It may very well be a Russian/republican op to keep Trump's political opposition divided and weak.

[VigilantG]

76. Yes, constant state of chaos is major part of their playbook

And don't forget that Russia most likely hacked RNC and other Repug campaigns but have not released anything yet, ie kompromat.

[workinclasszero]

80. Right

Who knows what info Putin has on other key republicans.

[Cha]

5. Yeah, the Siberian Candidate is our

living hell.

[Orrex]

6. I think I can safely speak for much of DU...

when I say that we have, alas, been letting this "sink in" since January 20th.

[onecaliberal]

7. Absolutely. Right the hell now.

[BigMin28]

8. And stripped

Of his ill gotten gains.

[JTFrog]

9. Trump, his admin, his daughter and son-in-law, KGOP and many Russians all need to rot in jail. nt

[world wide wally]

11. Yep

[H2O Man]

12. Recommended.

[ffr]

13. The sitting pResident of the United States "IS" an enemy of our country.

And anyone who's focus today is on aiding and abetting the cover-up, without a shadow of a doubt.

[Wounded Bear]

14. Too true, too true...

[snort]

15. How do we deal with enemies to our country?

[bdamomma]

62. violence or non violence???

that is the question. This freaking POS is just pushing us.......to do something. Apparently they have such a low opinion of the American people, we have Putin grinning in his vodka to cause chaos in the US, he wants it all. He has his puppet in the WH, this is disgusting. Yes I am extremely upset, stay vigilant and keep on calling your reps and senators. Oh by the way, McConnell can fuck off!

[volstork]

16. No argument here.

I have had nothing but contempt for that weasel since I became aware of him in the 80's. 100% slime bag.

[Scarsdale]

17. GOP

OWNS this enormous mistake of a president. They are STILL defending him, or is it themselves they are covering for? McConnell said there will not be a special prosecutor. How does one man speak for the entire fed-up country?

[brush]

31. It's up to patriot Republicans to defend our system of checks and balances by showing...

their loyalty to the country over their party. To do that they must install an independent special prosecutor, who trump can't fire, to find out if our sitting president is in collusion with Russia.

The Republicans are in charge of all branches of government so it's up to them.

So far we haven't heard from Ryan but McConnell has shown he is nothing but a repug by saying there will be no special prosecutor.

[volstork]

45. I think they are covering

their own asses. mcconnell and ryan are likely compromised as well, so they are trying to save their own skins. Same with chaffetz, sessions, etc. This goes very deep (or wide, depending upon how you want to view it). We have just seen the tip of the iceberg so far.

[3catwoman3]

49. I detest McConnell even more...

...than I detest Trump, and that's a damn high bar.

[berksdem]

18. screw these assholes...

we need the details of the investigation and once they are publicly shared this nightmare will be over.

[populistdriven]

19. yes

That is an extremely sobering truth that we have to come to terms with.

I do not make that charge lightly. There have been other presidents who grossly abused their powers and embarrassed the office--Richard Nixon and George W. Bush immediately come to mind.

But this is different. This is worse.

Donald Trump needs to be [div style="display:inline; background-color:#FF6600;"]legally removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural life.

Period.

That is the hardest part for me to accept: the delay, effort, & additional damage done, etc of it happening the right way.

We must remind ourselves how the hindsight will be from historians, from Trump, from his collaborators, and from the entire world's perspective of having had the entire, seemingly irrevocably conflicted partisan system they tried to destroy coalesce together to strip their POWER, WEALTH & INFLUENCE will be worth it.

It has to be to prove that not only are all of these crooks wrong, that their political philosophy failed because of it being so wrong.

Rhetorical question Tommy, how is it you manage to fit 50 stars in that tiny flag when the trump white house can't manage it in over 4 times the space?

[spanone]

20. and his party, the republicans, are just fine with it.

[inwiththenew]

21. George W Bush was worse

How many people are dead now in Iraq and Syria because of the destabilization that was brought by the war in Iraq? 750,000-1 million? And that is to say nothing the financial costs of it and the long term ramifications of the stability of the region.

[iluvtennis]

23. Disagree...at least his wasn't a threat to our democracy and institutions like Dumpty is

[inwiththenew]

26. No he only got million people killed

The only irrevocable thing Trump has done is Gorsuch. Everything else can be undone in 2 to 4 years. Those people are dead and are never coming back. That region is going to be a disaster for decades. There are people in those countries coming into adulthood who've known nothing but death and destruction their entire life with no end in sight.

[ET Awful]

32. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[inwiththenew]

37. But has he done worse yet?

At this point I say no. What Trump has done is not worse than what W did in Iraq. Therefore in my opinion W is worse.

Does Trump have potential to do worse? Absolutely but in my book he has not dethroned W as the worst President ever yet.

[ET Awful]

57. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[notdarkyet]

72. What he's saying is give trump time and he will create more death and destruction than you could

Imagine. He wants so bad to set off a nuke.

[Bluepinky]

30. Nothing was done about Bush/Cheney's abuse of power, which escalated to our current mess.

I really think the Bush administration should have been prosecuted for their lies getting us into Iraq invasion. Obama, and Democrats in general, are too soft on crimes committed by Repubs. A Democrat wouldn't have gotten a pass on something so serious. I know this was years ago but I so wanted to see Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest in orange jumpsuits and handcuffs. The Republican crimes have gotten progressively worse every time they're in power with their unending quest for money and power.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

28. The key distinction between the two.

Bush was happily beholden to the neo-cons in his administration.

Trump is happily beholden to a foreign, and arguably hostile, power.

Both are/were terrible. I think Trump's sins are even worse.

[workinclasszero]

36. Just wait till Trump starts a nuclear war in North Korea

It will make Syria and Iraq look like a walk in the park.

[JI7]

74. terrorists and dictators are to blame for a lot of that

Bush is responsible for what he did but that doesn't excuse others.

[Racygrandma]

22. That guy has himself surrounded by way to many Russian sympathizers

Maybe so they will be more likely to stay loyal. Maybe that is why he has not filled so many posts. because that many super loyal people are hard to find. Maybe because it is a "shit sandwich" as one general described it and people will not accept the appointments. I do think this is different. This is not like Nixon this is more treasonous.

[Mr. Ected]

24. Inauguration Day - the moment he took the Oath of Office

He became a legitimate traitor to the United States.

[hamsterjill]

25. I have felt this way since election night.

I'm not ragging on your post, but for some of us, that concept sunk in long ago, and we've been living with the fear and trepidation of what Trump truly is and can do.

Our country will never be the same again.

MY fear is that Trump is going to get away with his crimes. There is NO doubt in my mind that Trump sold out to Russia, not only to get elected, but probably from decades ago to save his ass in business. No doubt.

Frankly, I cannot understand how any rational, thinking person could conclude otherwise with all of the evidence already pointing to that conclusion. And yet I still find people every day defending Trump. They will defend anything and everything he did because they hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama THAT much.

That's the part that really scares me - that I live amongst such utter, senseless, ass-backwards hate and ignorance. These idiots would kill someone for disagreeing with them.

[ElementaryPenguin]

27. The most dangerous one ever!!

[progressoid]

29. That will never happen.

While I understand the sentiment, he will not be imprisoned for the rest of his natural life.

[lpbk2713]

33. Trump is a sworn enemy of Democracy in general.

It only works out by coincidence that the USA is his closest target
at hand. He takes shots at all of the rest of them as time allows.

[Iggo]

34. He's an honest-to-god actual Russian agent. (n/t)

[IronLionZion]

38. If Reagan could see what his party has become

the US finally lost the cold war as a Manchurian candidate took control through a campaign of hate and bigotry. Believing correctly that enough Americans hate diversity more than they hate a foreign country influencing our country.

Germany and France are now the leaders of the free world.

[lastlib]

64. That f*cker was a treasonous-rat-traitor, too!

Remember the missiles he sold to Iran to finanace his thug-buddies in Central America? I have almost no doubt that some of those very missiles are now pointed squarely at us, with intent to be used against us, at this very moment. So I don't give a rat's wazoo what the basturd would think of his party today.

But I do wish Lincoln could see it--and weep.....

[Sunlei]

39. People who colluded /w foreign governments including destabilizing Crimea & Turkey are

criminals!

Our own American government, 'the peoples' government has been shoved to the sidelines in favor of foreign interests- many of our elected officials are personally involved in.

These 'elected' criminals are NOT working for Americans.

[IronLionZion]

40. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice Preside

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Our constitution needs to be used for something other than the 2nd amendment.


Some Trumpers would repeal the 14th amendment because of this other section:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

We need to enforce the 14th amendment.

[niyad]

41. As I sit here, tears are pouring down. Will we ever recover?

[haele]

47. Eventually. But we will be different.

I'm hoping that the rule of law will prevail, but I'm not sure.
What happens when a gang, a Mob comes in - like a swarm of termites and carpenter wasps, to bribe elected officials and a few other "community leaders" to take over a city or county? You no longer have elected officials, and rights under the common law suddenly only applies to a select few approved by the Mob leaders living far, far away from that community.
This is what has happened.
Can we recover? Yes. Will we have what we used to have?
Probably not. We'll have to fight for what will be left after have to watch our lives be torn down and be left with whatever's left from the destruction and looting the Oligarchs and their GOP enablers have wrought.

Haele

[NCTraveler]

42. It's a sobering thought. nt.

[yuiyoshida]

48. He always was...

in my mind and many other minds.

[redstatebluegirl]

51. That in itself terrifies me.

[LisaM]

52. I agree. I'd argue that Reagan was also an enemy of the country....

the difference is that Reagan didn't realize it. Trump must know that he is.

[dem4decades]

54. I've actually felt sick about this today.

[warmfeet]

58. He was an enemy of this country

long before he ever decided to run for POTUS. I agree, he should be removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural, or even unnatural, life.

[Barack_America]

59. Correct. Nt

[Initech]

60. And his entire backing party are enabling him.

Everyone from the Senate and House to the governors to the state reps to the pundits feeding the lies. They're all in on it, and they're all accessories. Trump is playing them for chumps. Although the GOP will never realize they've been had.

[bdamomma]

61. add

bodily removed from office, he is truly a domestic enemy. He needs his ass hauled out of this country.

[0rganism]

63. Supreme Chancellor Palpatine has arrived

our nation is now governed entirely by Sithlords

i thought the prequels were just mediocre film-making, had no idea they were cinematic prophecy

[BlancheSplanchnik]

65. So are most of the republican party.

Particularly mcCONnel and AynRyan. And all of Dump's picks.

[rwsanders]

66. Trump is just the rotten cherry on the poop sundae...

that is the Republican party. He is no more an enemy than Nixon (Watergate, secret negotiations with Vietnam, abandoning 1700 POWs, election rigging), Ford (pardoned Nixon), Reagan (secret negotiations with Iran, policies to favor the wealthy), Bush I (father tried to overthrow FDR, complicit with Reagan, cowardice in not helping Russia the first winter that communism fell [or to keep that ever present bogie man so $$$ flow], Bush 2 (heck with Trump, he now seems normal, but starting 2 wars with the wrong countries, allowing 9/11, "Clean Skies", "Healthy Forests, etc.)
Our country was founded on equal opportunity and the royalists, Tories, alt-right or whatever you want to call them have re-invented the monarchy with inherited wealth that is to rule us all if the boot-licking cowardly right gets it's way.

[Mountain Mule]

67. I cried "treason" the moment I heard Dolt urge the Russian hackers to redouble their efforts

in regard to Hillary's e-mails. Since then things have only become worse with the passing of each day. We now live under an oligarchy and the repugs couldn't be more pleased. We the people must hold on to our feelings of rage and betrayal. None of this is "normal" and people should not be allowed to forget that for even a moment. We must fight as hard as we can and win big in the midterms if there is to be any hope for our democracy.

[tiptonic]

68. Comrade

Comrade 'Benedict donald'.

[hay rick]

69. Rec for the life sentence.

Of course, it's way too lenient- but it would signal that we are capable of rejoining civilized society.

[tavalon]

70. Where have you been?

Most of us have known since before the election just how dangerous he would be for America.

[PatrickforO]

71. Trump needs to be impeached and tried for treason before the Senate.

They ALL need to be Americans and do their fucking jobs for once.

[Norbert9]

73. Trump4prison

[UCmeNdc]

75. Trump is the Russian spy asset that Putin is protecting.

[keepthemhonestO]

77. Of all the

horrible things I have been thinking about this pResident, I had not thought of it those terms. Spelled out like that. Plus the people in his cabinet. Scary times ahead, can we resolve this peacefully? I am becoming more skeptical of a peaceful resolution as The right sits on their hands.

[liberal N proud]

78. We always knew our country would be destroyed from within

Putin new this as well, hence his puppet Butternut Bigot

[lark]

79. Every day he is in his stolen office, I die a little more inside.

It just breaks my heart to see an actual, real, traitor as head of our country. Someone who only sought the office for revenge and personal profit. He only cares about rapist and the rw rich, being one himself. Such a little brain, no heart and thoroughly evil person. He isn't a real man, he's too cowardly for that. He hides behind his complicit traitorous Justice Dept. and won't even take responsibility for anything that he actually does. OMG, and the lies, all lies all the time. It's hard to keep up and that's exactly what he wants.