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In the last week of Frances presidential election, posters sprung up picturing Marine Le Pen with Donald Trumps hairdo. The message was clear. Saying yes to Le Pen was saying yes to Trump. Ads also ran advising voters ne vous Trumpez pas, a pun on the verb tromper meaning do not deceive yourself. My suspicion is that Trumps election did hurt Le Pen. I havent found any evidence from polling, but there is a telling succession of events that suggests a negative Trump effect.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/--100957
Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)C'est sûr.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Now to get to work undoing the damage they did here and to the UK. Putin needs to be declared an enemy of the state.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)bluestarone
(16,972 posts)People in Georgia would get as smart as the French That would be GREAT!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)impetus in the horrible specter of appearing to behave like Americans.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)lest we let our guard down!
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)I do think however, that Germany is fairly safe now that France has restored a bit of order to European politics. If France had gone right, then it would have been a worry for Germany.
Germany is the stalwart of the EU and while things are not 100%, they are doing much better economically and socially. The far right does not have as many inroads in to Germany as it has had in France and Britain.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)(CNN)Donald Trump's travails are apparently sending shivers through Europe's so-called populist right. This seems particularly true in France.
Marine Le Pen -- the leader of France's National Front party and darling of the French far right -- had hoped to ride President Trump's coattails to power -- and in the process, bring down the entire European project.
As France, Italy and the Netherlands gear up for critical elections this spring, many of Trump's more outrageous pronouncements -- not to mention actions -- are casting a pall over Europe's populism.
Snip--ing/ European populism to crumble?
By David A. Andelman
Updated 9:01 AM ET, Wed February 8, 2017
Marine Le Pen runs for French president.
Marine Le Pen runs for French president. 02:36
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(CNN)Donald Trump's travails are apparently sending shivers through Europe's so-called populist right. This seems particularly true in France.
Marine Le Pen -- the leader of France's National Front party and darling of the French far right -- had hoped to ride President Trump's coattails to power -- and in the process, bring down the entire European project.
As France, Italy and the Netherlands gear up for critical elections this spring, many of Trump's more outrageous pronouncements -- not to mention actions -- are casting a pall over Europe's populism.
Trump's continuing embrace of Vladimir Putin, his support for a Brexit that even many Brits are now viewing with fear, and above all his de-facto Muslim ban all appear to be moving much of the European electorate closer to the center and driving these often-bickering nations closer to each other.
Marine Le Pen declares candidacy in French election, attacks globalization
Marine Le Pen declares candidacy in French election, attacks globalization
The first test comes in France barely 10 weeks from now in the first round of France's presidential election. Already, it holds the promise of a most contentious period. In an effort to smooth her own image and ease her way into the hearts of a broader electorate than her explosive father, far-right demagogue Jean-Marie Le Pen, Marine has dropped her toxic last name from her campaign material -- at about the same time she released a 144-point program that's clearly designed to smooth some of her sharpest edges.
No longer does Le Pen want France to "exit the eurozone," but rather "restore the national currency," which many in France worry will do little to improve their economic plight. No longer does she seek to reinstate the death penalty but rather life imprisonment for "the worst crimes." She doesn't even want to leave the European Union but rather renegotiate France's terms of membership. No longer does Le Pen want France to "exit the eurozone," but rather "restore the national currency," which many in France worry will do little to improve their economic plight. No longer does she seek to reinstate the death penalty but rather life imprisonment for "the worst crimes." She doesn't even want to leave the European Union but rather renegotiate France's terms of membership.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/opinions/trump-european-populism-andelman/
The defeat of the far right populist movement has been slowly pummeled by trump for 100 days now. They are lucky to even scrape by with the 33% that they got. I was hoping they end up in the 20's. But a win is a win and this one wasn't too shabby.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)... Trump included, that it is hard to determine who is hurting whom.
roomtomove
(217 posts)Call them what they are: FASCISTS!!!!!
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)The current crop of fascists in office will only took a "populist" tone during the campaign, then pivoted to enact policies for the elite only (i.e. Putin, Chump).
"Demagogue" is a more accurate term.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)They're not populists--real populists are left populists.
Right wing populism is a contradiction in terms.
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)and they sound like liberals on economic issues
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They all got a good look at what a right wing demagogue would do to their country and rejected it big time!
THANKS TRUMP!