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"Yo, Ladies... Hang on Under that Bus, There... We'll Stand up for Your Rights Over Your Own Bodies....... Eventually."No, sorry, Nancy.
Just letting you know that I'm one of those annoying women who shares the belief that denying women a fundamental human right is, like, a hard line.
In 1992, our Party Platform acknowledged that reproductive choice was a fundamental right, and that ALL women's health care costs should receive the same status with respect to government programs and funding for services. All. As in, yes, if a woman on Medicaid wants to terminate a pregnancy, her Medicaid should cover the cost of doing so in a safe, fully-equipped medical facility.
Of course, we never actually delivered on that.
And we've done a buttload of backpedaling on that since 1992. When some kind of compromise, or concession, is needed, to achieve some kind of "greater good," guess what went under the bus.
Time, after time, after time.
Suppose we backpedal on Jim Crow laws being okay in the South, next time.
Or maybe we go ahead and allow some states to invalidate certain marriages b/c they think they're icky.
You know, just to get over it and move on.
Maybe it should be okay for a candidate to run under our banner even though they're cool with state legislatures implementing racist vote suppression laws, because, you know... fraud!
Maybe it should be cool for someone who loudly sez maybe there isn't really any need to get all worked up about anthropogenic climate change to run as a Dem.
Hey, how about we go ahead and endorse candidates who think it's just peachy-cool for cops to get a few weeks' paid suspension at most for killing brown people? Because Blue Lives REALLY Matter.
And when all the people who are pissed off about that bullshit have joined us under the bus, there will be enough of us under here to STAND THE FUCK UP, and roll that sucker over a cliff.
So think about it, Nancy.
I'm not real happy with you and your enablers right now. Don't you have some real work to do? Like organizing the resistance in Congress?
irritatedly,
Bright
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,031 posts)TygrBright
(20,763 posts)Warpy
(111,305 posts)since I read that woman's disgusting statement and I have not trusted myself to write a reply to it that would not get me banned. This is the politest it got:
No, Nancy, my rights are not up for discussion and neither are any other woman's rights. The right to our own bodies is such a basic one that men never think about it in relation to their own bodies, they've never had to. You can't just brush aside half the population for party expedience. It is not going to work.
That's where the line is. I will never vote for an antichoice politician. If he thinks my rights are expendable in his climb up to heaven, then everybody's rights are expendable in his climb up to heaven.
And fuck you for considering that I ever would.
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)....I am not exactly feeling like the future is one big beacon of hope.
gloomily,
Bright
CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)Fuck the socially conservative voters who helped elect Trump. If those are the voters the dem party is going to appeal to, I may be done with the dems. I registered as a dem in 1975. In 2013 I went unaffiliated. I still vote dem, but I no longer GOTV or donate money. If they want to continue down this road of trying to appeal to social conservatives by compromising on this issue, they risk losing my vote, too.
You stand for something or you don't stand for anything.
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)...makes me question whether the Party can even survive.
wearily,
Bright
Alpeduez21
(1,754 posts)and we're STILL having this discussion. Get off your asses men and defend women's rights with me.
Nancy, girlfriend, you got to go.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)The way forward is NOT to embrace Jurassic Third Way politics
She's completely out of her element at this point and needs to retire for the good of the party
countryjake
(8,554 posts)and had me spitting nails, I got busy and wrote her a short but sweet history of all the times we've been let down by others like her in our party...not email, she'll never even see those, but a nice, two-page personal anthology of every time I've seen women's right to abortion being co-opted, watered-down, sold-out, and essentially, willingly handed over to those who pride themselves on being members of the American Breeders Bloc.
"Roll that sucker over a cliff" ... YES!