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no_hypocrisy

(46,160 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:13 AM Jul 2012

Americans Don't Agree With Declaration of Independence

For most of us, the idea that "governments derive their only just powers from the consent of the governed," a central tenet of the Declaration of Independence (a.k.a., the reason you're not working tomorrow), is taken as a given. But a surprisingly large contingent of Americans — 13 percent, according to Rasmussen — disagrees with that philosophy, apparently preferring tyrannical governments which wield power over their people through terror and violence. They must be very disappointed by all those elections we're having all the time! Another 17 percent are "undecided," which probably just means they couldn't follow the question and/or zoned out.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/many-americans-dont-agree-with-declaration.html

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Americans Don't Agree With Declaration of Independence (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 OP
And most of them don't understand that the Declaration does not give us our government hobbit709 Jul 2012 #1
That's why Rasputin Ryan BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #4
A survey done a few years ago found that 80 percent of Americans.... lastlib Jul 2012 #6
Only 13%? Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #2
Just what... sendero Jul 2012 #3
The real reasons some Americans don't agree demwing Jul 2012 #5
There tends to be an authoritarian strain in conservatives... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #7

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. And most of them don't understand that the Declaration does not give us our government
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:16 AM
Jul 2012

The Constitution does that.

The Declaration is one of the most subversive documents ever written.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
4. That's why Rasputin Ryan
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jul 2012

started invoking the Declaration rather than cite the Constitution which is the law of the land. They have started on a path to superimpose the label "Constitution" onto the beliefs of the Declaration in order to justify their sedition. And that's because too many Americans don't know the difference between the two documents.



lastlib

(23,272 posts)
6. A survey done a few years ago found that 80 percent of Americans....
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:15 AM
Jul 2012

...could name all of "The Simpsons", but only 20 percent could name all of the freedoms listed in the First Amendment.

This goes a long way toward explaining why we have Repuglickins in power.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
5. The real reasons some Americans don't agree
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:05 AM
Jul 2012

that "governments derive their only just powers from the consent of the governed" probably include:

1. A group that believes that governments derive their only just powers from the God.
2. A group that no longer has faith that "the consent of the governed" means jack shit...

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
7. There tends to be an authoritarian strain in conservatives...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jul 2012

It seems to have been growing lately. The whole "Decider" thing speaks to it.

Those people who lean that way love "decisive" people and don't realize that being a true leader requires more than just barking orders and demanding obedience.

There hasn't been a Repub president who was a true leader since Eisenhower. The closest they came might have been Reagan, but he was a puppet, much like Dubya. Pappy Bush could have been one, and he actually moved in that direction with rescinding his foolish "No New Taxes" pledge, but after that, his party dumped him.

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