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CousinIT

(9,262 posts)
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 03:48 PM Apr 2017

Trump is now talking about consolidating his power

President Trump has suggested that the judiciary doesn't have the authority to question him. He was a very early proponent of nuking the filibuster for Supreme Court Justice Neil M. Gorsuch. And he recently raised eyebrows by congratulating Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the expansion of his presidential powers — echoing his previous admiration for strongman leaders.

Now Trump is talking about consolidating his own power.

In an interview with Fox News that aired Friday night, Trump dismissed the “archaic” rules of the House and Senate — using that word four times — and suggested they needed to be streamlined for the good of the country.

A sampling:

“We don't have a lot of closers in politics, and I understand why: It's a very rough system. It's an archaic system.”
“You look at the rules of the Senate, even the rules of the House — but the rules of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through — it's really a bad thing for the country, in my opinion. They're archaic rules. And maybe at some point we're going to have to take those rules on, because, for the good of the nation, things are going to have to be different.”
“You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair. It forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, you're really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules.”
And then Trump came out and just said it: He doesn't like the filibuster.

“I think, you know, the filibuster concept is not a good concept to start off with,” he said.

So there you go. Trump is frustrated with the pace of legislation after 100 days, and his answer is that he wants to change the rules.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/29/trump-is-now-talking-about-consolidating-his-own-power/
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Trump is now talking about consolidating his power (Original Post) CousinIT Apr 2017 OP
Lacking the house, senate, Supreme Court, and Oval Office, democrats have too much power. unblock Apr 2017 #1
full-blown fascist fuck.... dhill926 Apr 2017 #2
The way I read this ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #3
People who have known Trump a long time say he wants to be a king dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #22
Interesting information - it fits completely. smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #25
Terriffic! SoCalNative Apr 2017 #26
Let's just... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #30
In a recent post i predicted trump would call for the end of the filibuster. shockey80 Apr 2017 #4
How did this asshole pass elementary school? Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #5
Bribery. JHB Apr 2017 #7
He's being thwarted repeatedly by the instruments of democracy True Dough Apr 2017 #6
These nihilistic riffs have Bannon's fingerprints all over them. VOX Apr 2017 #8
Yep. According to the Guardian Bannon's back in favor(if he was ever really out). octoberlib Apr 2017 #11
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2017 #31
He's actually learned a new word! BSdetect Apr 2017 #9
If our democracy is not strong enough to withstand this OldHippieChick Apr 2017 #10
I have confidence in the 'framers." pangaia Apr 2017 #16
It will take the complicity of millions of us and if we comply, then yes we will be destroyed. OldHippieChick Apr 2017 #17
If you're one of his Brown Shirts, and you're asked out for drinks, you'd be wise to decline. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #12
I think the Democrats should have abolished the filibuster in January 2009. David__77 Apr 2017 #13
Has there been a filibuster yet? Egnever Apr 2017 #14
What do you expect from a sociopath? world wide wally Apr 2017 #15
Good luck with that, Sparky. Grammy23 Apr 2017 #18
Whose mitts? greymattermom Apr 2017 #20
He wants so very badly to be the dictator of his dreams. nt oasis Apr 2017 #19
Not surprising Phoenix61 Apr 2017 #21
Trump seems to think he's a monarch. All that's missing is the gaudy crown and ermine cape. Vinca Apr 2017 #23
The irony is hard to accept: secondwind Apr 2017 #24
The funny part is madokie Apr 2017 #29
He is noticing he has very little power aside from EO the courts strike down. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #27
He's a typical cheater madokie Apr 2017 #28
Obama supports Senate's nuclear option to end some filibusters oberliner Apr 2017 #32
this is why Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2017 #33

unblock

(52,352 posts)
1. Lacking the house, senate, Supreme Court, and Oval Office, democrats have too much power.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 03:52 PM
Apr 2017

According to Kim don-ald

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. The way I read this
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 03:58 PM
Apr 2017

tRump: "I want to be tyrant so I can just make up whatever asinine laws I want whenever I want. The constitution sucks. It's old and worthless. The fact that my precious Muslim bans keep getting swatted down proves we need to get rid of the constitution."

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. People who have known Trump a long time say he wants to be a king
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 05:30 PM
Apr 2017

He sees himself holding court, proclaiming things which will be carried out, etc.
I cannot disagree with that self-concept because that is exactly how he is acting, and whining when he cannot do it his way.

Wayne Barrett wrote a good bio of Trump, and of his father. ( Barrett passed last year)
He reported that Trump was such an excessive micro-manager and bully that competent people fled.
When he had those casinos in Atlantic city ( thereby competing against himself) he decided he could manage one better than any one else.
He saw himself glad handing all thru the place, looking every inch the fat cat. In truth, he lost staff, lost suppliers when he did his usual stiffing them of payment ( which he sees as a negotiating tool to get lower bills--he got lawsuits instead).
Took him about 3 months to run it into the ground. He later ran them all into the ground and had to file for bankruptcy of them all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. Interesting information - it fits completely.
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:47 AM
Apr 2017

How else would you run a CASINO into bankruptcy in effing Atlantic City?

All he knows how to do is schmooze and bullshit. He has no other marketable skills. How this man ever got to be successful at anything I will never know. If he had not been born into wealth, he'd be a third rate used car salesman.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
26. Terriffic!
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:58 AM
Apr 2017

Then he should buy a little island somewhere and live out his days as the king there.

The US isn't set up that way..and nothing he can do will change that.

2naSalit

(86,823 posts)
30. Let's just...
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 11:19 AM
Apr 2017

GIVE him Bikini Atoll and send in a satellite signal, a constant feed of his speeches so he'll stay there.

True Dough

(17,337 posts)
6. He's being thwarted repeatedly by the instruments of democracy
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:03 PM
Apr 2017

and he's frustrated. So he'll attempt to remove the checks and balances. I sure as hell hope he fails in that attempt as well!!!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. These nihilistic riffs have Bannon's fingerprints all over them.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:06 PM
Apr 2017

He of the "tear it all down" school of totalitarianism.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
11. Yep. According to the Guardian Bannon's back in favor(if he was ever really out).
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:11 PM
Apr 2017

Against that background there were reports on Saturday that Steve Bannon, the champion of economic and ethnic nationalism, is making a political comeback in the White House, and that he remains a bulwark of Trump’s strategy to secure his core support and win again in 2020.



Bannon’s hand has been seen behind the rapid-burst issue of protectionist moves in the run up to the 100th day, including picking fights with Canada over milk and softwood imports and measures to shield the aluminium industry from foreign competition.

“All of these people who say the president doesn’t have an ideology, they’re wrong,” one unnamed Bannon ally told The Hill. “He does have an ideology, and it’s Bannon’s ideology. They are just now figuring out how to implement it.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/donald-trump-loyalty-day-100th-pennsylvania-rally

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
10. If our democracy is not strong enough to withstand this
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:09 PM
Apr 2017

onslaught then we are doomed. I have confidence in our framers. He cannot become King because he whines.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. I have confidence in the 'framers."
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:40 PM
Apr 2017

I do NOT have confidence that the destruction of American democracy can be stopped.

David__77

(23,549 posts)
13. I think the Democrats should have abolished the filibuster in January 2009.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:25 PM
Apr 2017

And then passed health care, ENDA, EFCA, abortion rights statute, a statutory version of ERA, etc.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
18. Good luck with that, Sparky.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 05:01 PM
Apr 2017

Let us know how that works out for you since the Congress and Courts might have some other ideas about you consolidating power into your tiny,grubby mitts.

Uhm, we, the people, might have some thoughts, too.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
21. Not surprising
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 05:03 PM
Apr 2017

He didn't comply with contracts in his business deals. Just ask all the people he stiffed.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
24. The irony is hard to accept:
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:01 AM
Apr 2017

It was an archaic rule that gave us this asshat in the first place, the Electoral College

madokie

(51,076 posts)
29. The funny part is
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:22 AM
Apr 2017

at the start of his campaign they were afraid that Hillary was going to win that they/CONs were talking about doing away with the EC, they were sure he could win the popular vote while she wins the EC vote. Since the con won due to the EC not one word have I heard from them on that subject.

fuck a bunch of republiCONs and the lies they win elections with

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
27. He is noticing he has very little power aside from EO the courts strike down.
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:09 AM
Apr 2017

A really lame president has only as much power as the other branches of government allow. Congress controls the budget, for one, and writes the laws. Consider the Boland Amendment as a way to rein in Reagan.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. Obama supports Senate's nuclear option to end some filibusters
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 11:21 AM
Apr 2017
Obama later cited what he called "an unprecedented pattern of obstruction in Congress" during his presidency for the move led by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

"A deliberate and determined effort to obstruct everything, no matter what the merits, just to refight the results of an election is not normal," Obama said of the change. "And for the sake of future generations, it cannot become normal."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/21/harry-reid-likely-to-go-nuclear-today/comment-page-56/


From 2013 - just for perspective.
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