Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 09:19 AM Apr 2017

Economy grinds to a halt under Trump

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/28/news/economy/us-gdp-q1-2017/index.html?adkey=bn

We've had 8 solid years of economic and job growth. We are simply due for a recession.

Trump would have been wise to distance himself from the economy and talk about it as being bad. But he took ownership of it by claiming the stock market surge is because of him. We know Con policies cause recesssions. That's a verifiable fact. If we were already going to have a recession they will make it a deeper one.

Even some liberals have been acting like Trump's massive tax cuts and deregulation will be good for the economy. You won't, they've all been tried before and the results will be a deep recession.
6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Economy grinds to a halt under Trump (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Apr 2017 OP
I wouldn't put it past Trump or his goons to interfere with the Bureau of KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #2
Not that fast Johnny2X2X Apr 2017 #4
It seems you and I merely disagree on the timing and you make some compelling KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #5
NYT: HAB911 Apr 2017 #3
Almost anywhere you look, the facts bear out that republican control is worse for the economy smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #6
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
1. I wouldn't put it past Trump or his goons to interfere with the Bureau of
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 09:24 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Labor Statistics (a unit of the U.S. Department of Labor) to try to skew its reporting in his favor. However, if the BLS is allowed to pursue its long-standing tradition of collection and dissemination of data regarding unemployment, I predict we will see U2 unemployment rate hitting 10% by December 31, 2017 and 15% by December 31, 2018. Most of the newly unemployed will come from Trump's deplorables.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
4. Not that fast
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 09:33 AM
Apr 2017

First of all, we were due for a pull back. Even if Obama were still in office we would probably have seen a slight recession, we've had 8 years without a recession, that is unusual. But the recession still might be a year off, wage growth the last year has been excellent and that will drive consumer spending and the economy. The recession will begin in earnest next year IMO, and it will be made more severe by the radical conservative economic policies of Trump.

And if he gets his tax cuts and deregulation, the recession will be worse than the Bush Great Recession. And the deficits will be absolutely insane! $2 Trillion or more per year, way way over sustainable.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
5. It seems you and I merely disagree on the timing and you make some compelling
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:04 AM
Apr 2017

arguments for why your version is preferable.

However, I would remind you of two things: so-called "Black Swan" events and, related, mass panics (akin to France's The Great Fear in 1789). These two factors could accelerate the decline and stagnation at a terrifying pace.

HAB911

(8,915 posts)
3. NYT:
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 09:32 AM
Apr 2017

The U.S. economy grew at a sluggish 0.7 percent rate to start 2017, the weakest quarterly showing in three years


Trump is the biglyest loser ever

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Almost anywhere you look, the facts bear out that republican control is worse for the economy
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 11:12 AM
Apr 2017

than Democratic control. It has been proven time and time again. So why do people still cling to this myth that republicans are better for the economy?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Economy grinds to a halt ...