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nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
1. You don't have to imagine. Just remembered how they pilloried Hillary and she was far more
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:15 PM
Apr 2017

prepared than Ivanka and she was more compassionate with a record of achievement and service when Bill was President.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
11. I salute those people in the audience for asking her,"just what the hell do you do?"
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 06:58 PM
Apr 2017

Of course she avoided the truth which is she's the official babysitter of her babbling father.

Her response to the question about how her father treats women, was to claim that the 'thousands of women he has employed in his company would say otherwise'. I'd like to know how come we've never met any of those thousands of women she speaks of. During the entire campaign, I saw ONE woman who worked for him interviewed a couple of times and she was the main engineer for many of his projects. In her first interview she said that she was his chief engineer on most of his building projects. She was careful with her words but pretty much said that he gave her an opportunity and she took it and ran with it. So where are all the rests of the thousands of women Ivanka spoke of.

It was well known during the campaign that all his children worked in Trump Towers where their offices were located but the staff was very lean. Those on his building staff subsequently became the campaign staff as well. Even Mika and Joe S. would talk about how 'lean' the staff was. I recall that some members of the media were in the basement of Trump Towers one day reporting and they said that room they were in was the Campaign HQ and the room was empty and looked pretty much deserted. Subsequently they went up to the main floor and they showed some offices, and a conference room I also recall during one TV Special that they showed Ivanka's Office. It was a very large room with a desk off in the corner and the rest of the room was empty. The room seemed oversized for an office but I was most surprised by how empty it was especially for a woman with young children. I would have expected that she would at least have some pictures of her very young children on the desk. The large size of the room, with very little furnishings and no pictures on the walls, even of her kids, led me to believe that that couldn't have been Ivanka's office, and if it was, then she obviously did not do much work from that office space.

Prior to Kellyanne Conway coming on board, there were two women, Hope Hicks, Press Secretary and Katrina Pierson, National Spokesperson, both mouth pieces for Trump, and both hired after the day he announced. Later his former Apprentice Omarosa Manigault joined the Campaign as his Director of African American Outreach. Where are those thousands of women that Ivanka talked of today? Unless she's perhaps talking about the women who worked as cocktail waitresses, or food servers, or maids when he was in his casino businesses, or chambermaids in his hotels, I'm not seeing it, and I followed the campaign very closely. FTR, I'm not trying to demean hotel jobs or working in the casino industry, but just trying to make the point that Ivanka had made the statement earlier today that her father was responsible for hiring thousands of women in high paying jobs, and I'm just making the case that if that were true, why aren't more of them wiling to come forward to make that claim for themselves. They've had plenty of time to do so during the long campaign season, particularly when his opponents were attacking his record as a businessman.

http://www.p2016.org/trump/trumporggen.html

PJMcK

(22,056 posts)
2. The better analogy
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:16 PM
Apr 2017

Can you IMAGINE if Malia or Sasha Obama had sat in all the meetings like Ivanka does?

But you're exactly correct about the Republicans' reaction.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,899 posts)
3. Remember the hissy fits they had about Hillary and health care reform
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:16 PM
Apr 2017

when Bill was president? I guess unelected members of a president's family are welcome participants in the work of an administration so long as they aren't Democrats.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
4. I recall the big big scandal when Rosalyn Carter
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:17 PM
Apr 2017

listened in at a cabinet meeting. Impeachment worthy.

Rhiannon12866

(206,277 posts)
8. I remember that, too
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:21 PM
Apr 2017

There was outrage. She had been very active in his campaigns - the whole family was - and had a lot of questions, so he asked her to sit in. And both of them were criticized terribly. And Rosalynn Carter was never selling anything...

Rhiannon12866

(206,277 posts)
9. That, too! There is still outrage over that!
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:23 PM
Apr 2017

And it was certainly a better option than whatever the GOP has to offer. "Get sick and die quickly..."

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
6. Remember how they all birthed a cow when Hillary Clinton was given the job
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:54 PM
Apr 2017

of developing a workable health care plan and started to sit in on meetings that covered it? How dare she! She was only a wife! She should have stayed in the kitchen while the menfolk discussed the important stuff!

I guess a daughter is different, especially if she's purty.

Media wimps will never call them on this shit, either.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
7. Ha! I remember when Hillary was First Lady
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:11 PM
Apr 2017

When Bill was first President and Hillary was going to sit in a couple meetings, the right howled.
They went after her so bad.
How dare a woman, a mere first lady and a democrat at that, know about policy!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
12. Both Michelle and Hillary are a LOT more qualified than Ivanka
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 07:06 PM
Apr 2017

Both were lawyers with impressive records of achievement independent of their husbands. Yet they (and their husbands) were villified for having ANY role, other than of course the "traditional" First Lady's a la Pat Nixon or Mamie Eisenhower.

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