"I'm ashamed to admit I voted for him."

[tavernier]

My friend is the live-in for the mom of a son and DIL who were Trump voters. My friend just called me and reported that over the weekend they entertained friends and the conversation turned to Trump. Both pretended that they had voted for HRC. When my friend later asked the DIL why she told her friends a fib, she admitted that she was too embarrassed and ashamed.

I know them both and they were quite vocal Trump fans at one time.

The worm has turned.

[Ohioblue22]

1. now that the damage is done

[meadowlark5]

7. I remember hearing peopel say, "it's only for 4yrs"

Like give him a chance, vote for Trump, it's only 4yrs

I said, a lot can be done in 4yrs. Things that could be reversed and changed that might not even be able to be corrected in that person's lifetime. And we see that already and it's not been 100 days. His anti-government cabinet will make sure of that.

[airmid]

54. These are probably the same people who feel abused and wronged by President Obama.

I get very exasperated by their responses if confronted about just what horrible thing have you suffered that can be attributed to President Obama.

[not fooled]

96. Yeah, a politically ignorant acquaintance smugly told me,

when he saw how distraught I was after the election, that his far-right family was equally distressed when Obama won, saying that "now I know how they felt".

I informed him that no, the situations were not equivalent: his family was upset because they believed in a bunch of nonsense such as that Obama was coming to take away their guns, whereas my distress arose from the mountains of evidence that dump was a thug and con man who would screw the country like he has screwed others. Plus, that he was manifestly unqualified and would be a disaster in office.

Well, he has a boy in the army. I do hope it works out OK for them

[politicaljunkie41910]

61. You're right. It's been less than 100 days, and I don't even bother to check my blood pressure any

more. The first time I was diagnosed with high blood pressure was the 2000 election during the recount debacle. After the recount dragged on, I literally came down with a bad headache at work, and my supervisor insisted that I go over to the medical clinic at the defense contractor's plant where I worked. They told me that my blood pressure was through the roof, and that their policy did not allow them to permit me to leave on my own. They had to call an ambulance. I was 41 and in good shape, but coming from a large family with a father and sister who had been on medication for high blood pressure for years. I started exercising regularly, my BP eventually came down and stayed down and after a year got off the BP medicine. With high BP, your thoughts count and they can be lethal. But I can't ignore him as long as he's in office and doing stupid things. Trying to ignore the news is just as stressful when you've been a news junkie all your life.

[Orrex]

9. Yeah. Let's see how they vote in 2018 and 2020

I'm confident that nearly all of these allegedly remorseful Trump voters will still find the courage to pull the Red lever again the next time around.

[stopbush]

12. Yep. All it will take is a pubic hair's worth of competence shown by anyone

in this cabal and the rubes will line up in lockstep behind anyone the Rs put up.

[not fooled]

109. Or a manufactured "social issues" scandal

cue faux noise and the rest of the GOPee propaganda machinery, in 3, 2, 1...before the next election.

What will it be? Abortion, transgendered rights, ????? They will come up with something to distract and rile up their dimwitted base in order to drive them to the polls and vote to cut their throats economically.

[NewRedDawn]

30. Sure enough.

Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers)

[HughBeaumont]

36. The only way they won't is if something personal happens to them.

A financial catastrophe, perhaps.

Even then, the cultists seem hypnotized by the brand of Trump.

I kind of lost hope with America with 1) the re-Selection of Bewsh, 2) 57 million people thinking "The Possibility of President Sarah Palin" was a good idea . . . even AFTER 8 years of Bewsh and 3) 62 million people thinking "President Donald Trump" was a great idea at ALL.

[LuckyLib]

46. Your last paragraph says it all. It's why so many of us are so discouraged.

Resist in any form possible. March for Science, tomorrow, April 22 -- all over the nation.

marchforscience.com

[HughBeaumont]

100. As luck would have it, there's one in Cleveland.

GOING.

[BamaRefugee]

48. Yep. Robo-voting. n/t

[calimary]

98. Welcome to DU, BamaRefugee!

Robotic voting. They've turned their brains over to the propagandizing.

It's hard to feel sorry for them. I've been trying. Just not getting there. The truth was available. But they chose to believe Pox Noise, limbaugh and clones, and Alex Jones and fiends. Or just "...but, but, but, her emails..."

When it just seems so glaringly obvious, when we've all KNOWN this guy and seen him in action and seen slicky-boy sales pitches that we all know not to trust - but THEY still do, it's damn hard. I find myself thinking to myself quite often that these folks deserve what they get because they made the colossal and totally avoidable mistake of believing him. Only problem with that is - while I think these idiots might deserve it, the rest of us DON'T!!!

[vlyons]

57. They may not vote at all

Depends if a Republican primaries Trump. I think that A LOT of Republicans will run against him. People like John Kasich, Marco Rubio, and Jeb Bush will no doubt run again. But should Trump win his primary again, which I deeply doubt, Trump supports will not vote for a Dem. They'll just stay home. Which is plenty OK with me.

[calimary]

99. Let 'em stay home. That's a net gain for our side.

[Tribalceltic]

2. Lies come so easy for Republicans NT

[Hamlette]

49. They wouldn't admit it to pollsters before the election either

I heard reports (rumors?) that people who voted for Trump would not admit it, even to pollsters, before the election because they got such shit from people when they admitted they supported Trump.

Even more reason to lie (?) now?

[jrthin]

59. They do, don't they.

Just say I voted for him, and I am sorry I did.

[Bengus81]

3. A wee bit late NOW. We're stuck with this ass for a long time. Look at the damage already done n't

[Binders Keepers]

4. whoever couldn't see Trump for what he was from the very first moment is just not very perceptive

[azureblue]

5. and now comes the snapback

I come from the South, and a lot of people down there are people of their word. They do not like it when they put their trust in someone and they find out they have been lied to and made a fool of. Not one bit. They can be very vengeful, and I expect this is what is going on right now with Trump voters. They finally woke up to the fact that they were conned and lied to, taken for fools and rubes, and they are pissed.

[NewRedDawn]

32. Really?

So all the red politicians that have been lying to them for the past 40 yrs. Fucking them over, so why are they not blue then?

[Marcuse]

52. After all - he is from New York City.

[argyl]

91. An anus with teeth.

[tazkcmo]

58. They made fools of themselves.

Just like most members of the Party of Personal Responsibility, they blame someone else for their idiocy. Screw 'em.

[tblue37]

83. His approval ratings are still very high with Republicans. nt

[RT Atlanta]

6. Kryptonite

I want to hang that vote for Trump around every elected (r) politician out there that supported/endorsed or otherwise dutifully fell in line for that shitstain drumpf.

Glad your friend admitted the mistake....

[Maraya1969]

8. We need to translate this type of regret from just Trump to all Republicans

They are all bad. It is only the Democrats who vote in favor of people, animals and the environment.

People need to know that a tax cut does not equal prosperity and more often than not leads to economic problems because there is less revenue to keep the economy running

[classykaren]

10. Between collusion with the Russians and Dementia he should be out soon.

[FiveGoodMen]

43. Long as Ryan's around and has a majority, we're still pretty screwed

[Saviolo]

11. Lots of news stories about Trump regret

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-obamacare-trump-voter-20170224-story.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-iowa-trump-voter-regrets-20170226-story.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/9/1641835/-First-time-voter-who-voted-for-Trump-is-double-sad-that-her-insurance-looks-like-a-nightmare-now

And I don't get it. Am I supposed to feel sad for these people? I mean, sure, we'll need their votes going forward, and I don't wish them harm, but I also feel no sympathy for them. They ignored the racism and the sexism (which is tacit approval), and they voted for Trump. They ignored what he said about gutting Medicare and ACA and now they're upset that he's planning on gutting Medicare and the ACA? And they're -embarrassed-?

Sorry, I have no sympathy for your embarrassment. People have died and more are dying because of a choice you made. Those people need to do some atoning, and the first thing they need to do is vote Democrat. I mean, it's hard for me to understand someone who's 55 and has never voted. I don't understand that lack of engagement. And then to make such a low-information choice. You've had 55 years to watch what's going on!

Also, all of these people are middle-aged white suburbanites. They have the luxury to be embarrassed. Poor people, POC, LGBTQ people are actually suffering. Apologize to them, first.

[GWC58]

15. We all voted for the competent candidate,

the one who actually knew what SHE was doing and how government works. But ya know, e-mails & Benghazi!

[Hekate]

18. Don't forget: "She's a hawk. She'll get us into war."

[redwitch]

35. That one made me nuts!

Jeezus how could they fail to see????

[TommyCelt]

26. And that's my major beef with these people...

...the ones with "regret".

No matter what they believed about his policies, Drumpf's sexism, racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, misogyny, etc. ad nauseum were on full display for well over a year since he announced his candidacy, not to mention his rhetoric during the Obama Administration.

None of these things, by themselves or collectively, were deal-breakers as far as casting their vote for him.


I don't give a frog's fat one about their "embarrassment".

[NewRedDawn]

38. Democratic

Not Democrat. That is what the pukes say as their little put down. In their little warped non existent brains they compare to Democ-Rat.
with the emphasis on rat.

[LisaM]

13. Nevertheless, we will never have Hillary as president, and for that.....

well, while I can find it in my heart at some level to forgive people, the fact that having HRC as president was taken away from me (twice), it's a really bitter pill to swallow.

[stevenleser]

14. The difference between having a very good President who is well prepared for the job and

the worst President ever cannot be overstated.

I argue with people who say they didn't like either candidate.

"Who cares who you don't like?" I tell them. "This isn't elementary school classs president! This is a difficult job that requires some very specific skills that she has a lot of and he had none of."

It's that simple. It's not complicated at all.

[GWC58]

17. This election convinced me

this country will never elect a female president. Never gonna happen!!

[Hekate]

19. OTOH I thought we wouldn't elect a black man either, then along came Barack

Of course, the backlash has been ferocious, so there you have it.

Some time ago I read a telling article about interviews done with successful black women. One of the questions asked was what had held them back more: racism or sexism? It raised my eyebrows to read they agreed that sexism hurt their progress the most.

So, again, there you have it. "Never" is a long time, but we have a very long way to go as a society, don't we? American exceptionalism means getting to hold on to your guns and other harmful lifeways until the last possible moment.

[LisaM]

21. Yes, of course, but for me it's Hillary herself, not just any woman.

Of course I'll be enthusiastic when and if we nominate another woman. But it's a hard pill for me, because I have been an enormous fan of her, specifically, since 1992. I have never seen any single person in politics weather so much and bounce back up swinging every time. We passed on an enormous opportunity.

Among other things, she remembers the struggle over abortion from both sides - what is was like before it was legal and after. It's difficult to explain to people who don't remember classmates vanishing for a few months to "visit an aunt" what an enormous gain that was. And that's just one example.

[StevieM]

22. It is sad that so few Americans remember or care about the Baby Scoop Era.

These are the days that Republicans want to bring us back to. The girl is given the opportunity to "redeem herself" by parting with her own child.

Those girls were traumatized by the loss of their children. They didn't just give up their babies and happily move on with their lives.

[LisaM]

50. I've never heard the term "Baby Scoop Era", actually.

Can you elaborate? My point was actually about abortion rights, not people being forced to carry a pregnancy to term, so I'm a little lost here.

[StevieM]

65. I am saddened that so many Americans are unfamiliar with the Baby Scoop Era.

The Baby Scoop Era refers, roughly, to the period from 1945-1972 when women and girls had very few options other than adoption. Society was determined to push through an adoption of all babies born out of wedlock.

Here are a couple of brief, good articles on the era. They will give you the basics and I think they are both absolutely worth reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Scoop_Era

http://babyscoopera.com/home/what-was-the-baby-scoop-era/

[LisaM]

67. I have just never heard this term. I do know about people being pushed to give up babies.

And of course it's unfortunate and very wrong, but I was referring to abortion rights - not having to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term at all.

[StevieM]

70. I agree that we should never force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term against her wishes.

I just wish that we would also have more protection against coerced adoptions.

[LisaM]

71. Well, sure, I doubt anyone on this board suports that (I hope not!)

Interesting term, Baby Scoop, I had never heard it before. I could (but won't) tell you the name of two girls in our school who vanished for a few months in the early 70s. I don't know if they carried pregnancies to term or went to New York (which a lot of people did). Had abortion been easily available and accessible, I might never have known this about either one of them.

[StevieM]

73. An author named Ann Fessler termed those girls "the girls who went away."

Here are a couple of links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girls_Who_Went_Away

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Girl_Like_Her

[LisaM]

74. Safe, legal, non-stigmatized abortion would have solved many of those problems.

I don't know if the people in my school went away to have abortions in a state where it was legal at the time, or had babies that they had to give up. I just know that both were bad choices. If they'd had access to the morning after pill or a safe abortion, it would have been a wonderful thing.

[StevieM]

77. I completely agree. I hope you don't think I am trying to downplay the importance of having access

to safe, legal, affordable, non-stigmatized abortions. I am definitely not.

But we also need to protect against coerced adoptions. And we need to recognize the legitimacy of the grief often felt by first mothers and first families (often called birth mothers and birth families).

One other thing we need is long-lasting, effective contraception, including for men. Here is one more link for you to check out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasalgel

[LisaM]

84. Well, I was trying to steer the train back a little bit!

Coerced adoption is a terrible thing, just a little bit different issue.

[StevieM]

88. Fair point. I have always had trouble staying on topic, LOL. My brain just veers all over the place.

eom

[GWC58]

105. I've never heard that term either.

At any rate now they, Rethugs, not only want no abortions, No exceptions - even for the life of the mother, the women, if they try and give up the baby will be publicly shamed. I believe Jeb! did this a few years back. It's like "you're having the child AND you're going to raise the child. If you need help? You'll figure it out."

[Hekate]

23. I know. You and I and Hillary are of an age. I admire her tremendously...

This country is going to suffer tremendously (is already) for this mistake.

[LisaM]

33. She's actually eleven years older than I am, but yes, generally the same era.

Sadly, many of us are being shoved aside now, even while we still have so much to offer.

[StevieM]

29. I am putting up a separate reply to respond to what you said about HRC because I felt that

the Baby Scoop Era issue deserved its own post.

I agree that it is sad that Hillary will never be president, especially given the way it was stolen from her by a totally corrupted FBI. And, of course, it is always sickening when the bad guys win by doing evil things.

Elizabeth Warren could be elected in 2020. And there is a Representative from New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham, who is running for governor in 2018. I could see her running for president in 2028. Her cousin, Ben Ray Lujan, is chairman of the DCCC. He could be Speaker of the House some day. That would be interesting--to have a president whose cousin is Speaker of the House.

[GWC58]

78. Yeah, me too.

I've always thought a lot Hillary since she was First Lady, then Senator, then candidate, then Madame Secretary.

[NewJeffCT]

37. If you had asked me 15-20 years ago

I would have that a woman as president was more likely than a black person (male or female) as president. I would have obviously been wrong.

That said, as much as I supported Clinton, she had 25 years of baggage - 99% of it lies and/or exaggerations - to deal with. If a woman is elected president, I think it will be somebody like Obama without a lot of experience on the national stage so there is a lot less there to play "the politics of personal destruction" with when they run for president. Look at how much Obama got hammered for Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, while McCain/Palin got less coverage for associating with more controversial figures (Rev Hagee and the Alaska Independence Party, for example)

[Skittles]

51. sexism is far more pervasive than racism

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who got the right to vote first?

Clinton's "baggage" was greatly influenced by a 25 year non-stop campaign of hatred directed at her....the fact is, she was the most qualified person ever to run for president and while Obama was held to a higher standard and Trump was held to no standard at all, Hillary was held to an impossible standard

[WyLoochka]

92. you got it on the standards thing, Skittles

Hillary impossible standard - Trump no standard at all

[Skittles]

93. now try to imagine what the standards would be for a black woman

yes indeed

[TexasBushwhacker]

25. You don't think Warren could get elected?

Granted, she'll be 71 in 2020.

[LisaM]

34. I don't know, but her resume in politics is thinner.

Granted, Hillary's was exceptional (not just elected office, but being a very engaged First Lady at both the state and national level, not to mention her own work as both a legal advocate and on women's issue generally). I like Elizabeth Warren just fine, but I am still burned over this loss.

[Skittles]

94. no

[TNLib]

41. I think this country could elect a woman

Just not a smart woman.

People in this country don't like smart people, especially smart, strong women.

[PoliticAverse]

103. Sure it will, when the right one comes along. n/t

[madokie]

16. definitely turning

before long there won't be anyone admitting they voted for the orange ASS

[tavernier]

64. Only the three mental giants who

stood in front of Hillary's portrait yesterday and showed the world what the words white trash really mean.

[madokie]

68. You got me there

I wasn't thinking. mybad

[TNLib]

20. That just wrong

You shouldn't get to vote for a mentally ill lunatic then pretend that you didn't. Trump voters own that shit.

They should put on those ridiculous little red hats so everyone knows they suck!

[NewJeffCT]

40. Nobody admits to voting for Nixon

even though he won in a huge landslide in 1972. I think Trump could be even worse.

[Portland_Anni]

42. I actually liked Nixon in 1968. But I was forteen and going to a private school

I was trying to fit in with my peers from wealthy families. (I got in on a scholarship.) I supported McGovern the first time I voted. I also am way to aware about the dark side of Repugs, I have no use for them.

[NewJeffCT]

44. I turned 6

right after election day in 1972... my memory of Nixon is disliking him because the Watergate Hearings were on TV all the time a few years later and they pre-empted my afternoon cartoons after I got home from school.

[kydo]

85. Whew! I am not the only one that thought the same and had the same issue

Dude interfered with my viewing of Speed Racer and Star Trek when I was 4. Never forgave him.

[Kittycow]

87. ...

[stevenleser]

89. Compared to the incompetent jerk we have now Nixon was terrific. nt

[progressoid]

24. But will they vote for a Democrat?

[Hekate]

27. Anyone remember the disappearing Nixon voters? By the time Watergate was over...

...if all the people who said they'd voted for the other guy actually had done so, Nixon would never have gotten into the WH.

[Hortensis]

86. Or the magically A-ppearing Lincoln legacy here in the South.

Lincoln was so generally hated that he wasn't even on the ballot in most southern states. And of course, since southern conservatism has taken over the "party of Lincoln," if he ran today they'd be claiming he raped white women, dealt drugs, and murdered people who threatened to expose him.

[czarjak]

28. Fuck you, anyway.

[tavernier]

66. Me? Why?

(And I didn't even get dinner)

[czarjak]

110. Not you..

The Trumptard.

[Johnny2X2X]

31. Had a friend turn on him

He said the only reason he voted for Trump is because he wanted to avoid a war in Syria. Huh? Yeah, that's just how gullible Trump voters were.

[tazkcmo]

62. Sorry, your friend isn't gullible.

He and every other Shit Gibbon voter is an idiot. The man has over a 45 year documented history of lies, deception, narcissism and bloviating. These people are selfish, racist, misogynist and all other kinds of stupid. May as well add lazy for not doing basic research. Dumb asses all of 'em.

[flying-skeleton]

39. The Damage is done ....

The Damage is done. They don't get to lie to escape their support that delivered a ShitGibbon in the WHitehouse !!

[samnsara]

45. kinda late for that!

[benpollard]

47. Blame DWS and the DNC

Democrats are clueless when it comes to elections. They need to get away from identity politics and learn how to fight.

[geek tragedy]

55. "get away from identity politics"

nice dogwhistle

note: it's Republicans playing identity politics, but straight white people tend to not notice that because their civil rights aren't being threatened

[tazkcmo]

63. No

If that's who you blame then you haven't been paying attention.

[stevenleser]

72. No, we are not abandoning women, African Americans, LGBT or Latinos among others that you

neatly dismiss under the banner "identity politics"

[StevieM]

81. It's not the fault of DWS or the DNC that Bernie got a lot fewer votes than Hillary.

He had a lot of money and name recognition. He had the advantage of dominating her in the undemocratic caucus states.

Minority voters went overwhelmingly against him. That is why he lost. Also, a lot of voters were hesitant to vote for a Democratic Socialist. Maybe they were wrong, but either way that has nothing to do with DWS or the DNC.

Maybe in 2020 he will run again, do better among minorities and win the nomination. He will have every opportunity to win just like he did in 2016.

[NNadir]

97. I have a very different opinion of who is clueless in this conversation. n/t

[Starry Messenger]

106. If you aren't fighting for minorities you are no better than the GOP

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. But the multi million dollar question is WHY are they embarrassed?

That he isn't doing enough harm to minorities? Hasn't killed the Iran deal YET?

etc

[tavernier]

69. I'm thinking one major reason is his COPD

and the fact that he lives in Detroit. He can barely breath the air since its been cleaned up. Soon the city will be black smoke again.

[tazkcmo]

56. Who needs them?

While it is only slightly pleasing to know they have some remorse, I would have preferred for them to have some brains. Anyway, we out number them and I'll not lose one bit of sleep over Shit Gibbon voters, remorseful or other wise.

[MFM008]

60. Im ashamed they voted for him as well

E MAILS...................

[LeftishBrit]

75. Good.

I hope there are lots of people like them, and they vote for an opposition to American Psycho in 2018.

[Aristus]

76. What does she want? A round of applause?

Everyone on the planet who doesn't have his/her head up Trump's ass told them not to vote for him.

Her confession that she's been had is a little late, at this point...

[tblue37]

79. Well, SOME worms have turned--for now. nt

[Cha]

90. That worm has turned.. we need more worms turning..

Thank you for the anecdote, Tavernier

[NNadir]

95. They should be ashamed. They're obviously not decent human beings.

I have no sympathy and no compassion for anyone that even thought of voting for this racist coddler of the worst Americans in the world.

[mvd]

101. Thank you for that story!

I have a hard time forgiving them for their votes and the damage they caused, but it would help if they join us in resisting.

[J_William_Ryan]

102. Tragic they didnt have this epiphany on or before November 9th of last year.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

104. Please...

,... these Buyer's Remorse stories are rubbish. Use the same anti-Black, anti-immigrant rhetoric, and they'll vote for 45 again.

[tavernier]

107. Don't doubt you a bit.

I shouldn't take pleasure in an "I told you so" moment, but it did give me a small grin, even though it doesn't change anything. If every trump voter changed their mind, it still doesn't make any difference for now.

[Buns_of_Fire]

108. I have a hard time understanding their mindset.

I hear more and more of these "buyer's regret" stories where the person is worried about losing their healthcare under Rump -- yet they voted for him.

Usually, they say something like "I didn't think he'd really do it."

So (1) they voted for someone who said he'd stab them in the back, or (2) they voted for the same person who they thought was outright lying to them.

Of course, there's the third option: They voted for someone whose name wasn't "Hillary", and who cares about anything else so long as she didn't win.

Dumbasses.

At this point, I have only one thing to say about "sympathy" for these people: It's in the dictionary, between "shit" and "syphilis". So suck it up, buttercups. You got what you wanted, so don't come whining to me about it.