Note to Democratic Leadership for Voter Outreach

[boston bean]

If you compromise on womens basic human rights to win a vote (ie support a candidate who is publicly against a womans autonomy over her body), I will fight you with every ounce of strength l have in my body. I can predict for you I will not be the only one.

You will win elections by proudly supporting civil right for half of this country or you can go to fucking hell.

I will not sit down and accept political or societal abuse by anyone who throws my rights out the window to win the vote of or appease a misogynist or sexist.

Fuck.that.shit.and.NO!!!!

[lillypaddle]

1. Gotcha

agree 100%.

[Equinox Moon]

2. I'm not sure of what is going on, but at our recent district Dem meeting

the first two speakers talked about ANTI-choice. Not acceptable!

[betsuni]

3. K&R

[Omaha Steve]

4. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), has expressed personal opposition to abortion rights too

Seems it didn't stop him from getting the VP slot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/omaha-mayoral-candidate-under-fire-says-he-would-never-do-anything-to-restrict-access-to-reproductive-health-care_us_58f8e868e4b018a9ce590a84

Nebraska Democratic Party Chair Jane Kleeb, who sits on the board of Our Revolution and backed Sanders during the primary, told the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday that Mello’s abortion views were not disqualifying.

“Voters know he’s pro-life but we have a lot of pro-life Democrats in our state,” Kleeb said. “It’s not the single issue people vote on anymore.”

DNC Chair Tom Perez also defended the party’s support for Mello in a statement Thursday.

“Our job at the DNC is to help Democrats who have garnered support from voters in their community cross the finish line and win ― from school board to Senate,” Perez said. “The biggest threat to women’s reproductive rights is the relentless Republican attacks on women’s health care, including legal, accessible abortion services. And I won’t let anyone get in the way of our fight to protect a woman’s right to choose.”

[JustAnotherGen]

6. I didn't realize Tim Kaine

Sponsored a bill in VA or at the Fed Level to 'put women' in our place and at the mercy of the sick fucks in our government. I can't find that bill.

Can you direct me to it? A link?

[Omaha Steve]

7. Start here

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-abortion-predicament-225053

But he hasn’t always advanced policies directly in line with those of abortion rights advocacy groups. He pledged in his 2005 gubernatorial campaign to reduce the number of terminated pregnancies in the state by promoting adoption and abstinence-focused education. That cycle, the state NARAL chapter ripped Kaine’s GOP opponent, Jerry Kilgore, as “an extremely anti-choice candidate” but still withheld its endorsement of Kaine because he “embraces many of the restrictions on a woman’s right to choose.”

In a 2007 NARAL scorecard, Kaine was described as a “mixed-choice” governor and his state got an F grade thanks in part to a number of laws and other policies restricting access to abortions. Two years later, Kaine upset both local and national reproductive rights groups by signing a law that authorized the sale of customized “Choose Life” license plates. Kaine argued he was supporting free speech, but his critics complained that the law would fund pro-life organizations and didn’t square with another very important hat that he was wearing at the time: Obama’s personally picked head of the Democratic National Committee.

Kaine brings many other attributes as a running mate, including a widely respected reputation for bipartisanship, after serving just under four years in the Senate, and his own proven political chops winning three straight statewide races in the critical battleground of Virginia. But the hot button issue of abortion, where he has a much more nuanced stance than many of his fellow Democrats, is the baggage he carries.

“People use labels all the time,” Kaine explained in a recent interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” an exchange emblematic of the challenge he faces in talking about a politically volatile topic where his religion conflicts with his policy stance. “I’m kind of a traditional Catholic. Personally, I’m opposed to abortion, and personally, I’m opposed to the death penalty.”


Kaine and Mello are both Catholics.

[boston bean]

9. I suggest you read this and stop making such ridiculous claims about Tim Kaine.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Tim_Kaine_Abortion.htm

Then get back to me about he is just like that anti choice nut Sen Sanders supports.

[Omaha Steve]

12. I suggest you read this

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-abortion-predicament-225053


But he hasn’t always advanced policies directly in line with those of abortion rights advocacy groups. He pledged in his 2005 gubernatorial campaign to reduce the number of terminated pregnancies in the state by promoting adoption and abstinence-focused education. That cycle, the state NARAL chapter ripped Kaine’s GOP opponent, Jerry Kilgore, as “an extremely anti-choice candidate” but still withheld its endorsement of Kaine because he “embraces many of the restrictions on a woman’s right to choose.”

In a 2007 NARAL scorecard, Kaine was described as a “mixed-choice” governor and his state got an F grade thanks in part to a number of laws and other policies restricting access to abortions. Two years later, Kaine upset both local and national reproductive rights groups by signing a law that authorized the sale of customized “Choose Life” license plates. Kaine argued he was supporting free speech, but his critics complained that the law would fund pro-life organizations and didn’t square with another very important hat that he was wearing at the time: Obama’s personally picked head of the Democratic National Committee.

Kaine brings many other attributes as a running mate, including a widely respected reputation for bipartisanship, after serving just under four years in the Senate, and his own proven political chops winning three straight statewide races in the critical battleground of Virginia. But the hot button issue of abortion, where he has a much more nuanced stance than many of his fellow Democrats, is the baggage he carries.

“People use labels all the time,” Kaine explained in a recent interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” an exchange emblematic of the challenge he faces in talking about a politically volatile topic where his religion conflicts with his policy stance. “I’m kind of a traditional Catholic. Personally, I’m opposed to abortion, and personally, I’m opposed to the death penalty.”

[FSogol]

14. How does this smear square with the FACT that Kaine has an 100% LIFETIME rating from NARAL & Planned

Parenthood?

[Omaha Steve]

22. He wasn't rated before 2013!

His perfect record is for US Senate, not his time as Gov when he did all those things at the politico link I provided.

His record is not a smear.

https://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/50772/tim-kaine

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-2016-vp-pick-tim-kaine-213997

Partly it’s the way he navigates tricky subjects. On abortion, he carries a perfect score from Planned Parenthood regarding his Senate votes—but Kaine is also a devout Catholic who says, as he did on Meet the Press last Sunday, “I don't like it personally. I'm opposed to abortion.” On the budget, Kaine rejected the Simpson-Bowles deficit commission recommendation to reduce Social Security benefits as a Senate candidate in 2012, but he embraced the underlying anti-Keynesian principle of the commission proposal: “two or three dollars of cuts for every dollar of revenue.”

[Cha]

18. Why Is the DNC Embracing an Aggressively Anti-Choice Democrat

Dkos pulled their endorsement of Heath Mello

snip//

He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life.

Heath Mello has sponsored a range of anti-choice measures, including a 20-week abortion ban.

Heath Mello is a sponsor of the final version of a 20-week abortion ban approved by the governor in 2010, and cast anti-choice votes in favor of requiring physicians to be physically present for an abortion in order to impede access to telemedicine abortion care, and a law banning insurance plans in the state from covering abortions.

snip// Dkos pulls their endorsement of Heath Mello

The Daily Kos, which describes itself as “a news organization, community, and activist hub,” pulled its endorsement of Mello after revelations about the Democrat’s stance on abortion. The site said it had been unaware of Mello’s anti-choice stance, but that “as soon as we learned this information, we withdrew our endorsement, because this legislation clearly runs contrary to Daily Kos’ deepest values, including our support for women’s reproductive rights and our staunch opposition to laws that in any way impede women’s access to reproductive health care.”

musette https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8955986

https://rewire.news/article/2017/04/20/why-is-dnc-embracing-aggressively-anti-choice-democrat/

But, BS "doesn't know" Jon Ossoff, who is Pro-Choice, and, is running for an important Congressional seat.. Tom Price's in Georgia!

"Jon Ossoff on the issues, presented in a way Bernie Sanders can understand"

snip//

Women’s Heath & Planned Parenthood”

Ossoff is an unapologetic supporter of the concept of women being able to make their own decisions regarding reproductive health care, and Ossoff is a strong supporter of Planned Parenthood.

What a concept for a "progressive"!!!

snip//

National Security”

•Ossoff has promised to “oppose unnecessary military intervention overseas and...only support the use of force where US national security is at stake”
•Ossoff opposes the use of torture
•Ossoff has called for an investigation into "Russian interference in American politics”
•Ossoff referred to the Iraq War as “reckless”

Much More.. https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/04/19/1654449/-Jon-Ossoff-on-the-issues-presented-in-a-way-Bernie-Sanders-can-understan

Jon Ossoff took the high road in Georgia.. I hope he wins so badly.. Nancy Pelosi was there for him as was Samuel L Jackson.. Hollywood came out for him! Alyssa Milano and Christopher Gorham got the Vote out!

We'll never know if a few positive words instead of dismissal could have made the difference from the "most popular politician in America".

Not sure why BS wouldn't want to have gotten to know Jon Ossoff who would have immediately gone to Congress if he had won 50% and we would have had one more Dem to fight the Fascistrumps.

[Demsrule86]

10. Why get involved in a mayors race anyway.

[boston bean]

11. The comparision he feels compelled to make as well, is quite thin. And really not the facts

of Kaines positions.

Sort of like when they said Hillary was against abortion, because she would support a law on partial birth abortion if the life of the mother was taken into consideration.. Tim Kaine did the same. Knowing that this was already the case and NO republican would sign on to it anyhow... it was a way to keep the sicko's from winning... a way to frame the issue themselves with no risk to access to abortion for women.

So, be careful what one puts out there as "facts" on this issue... As I have come to know, not all "facts" are "facts".

Lastly, using partial birth abortion is coopting anti choice language... late term abortion, which never happens unless the life of the mother is at risk, occurs.

[Demsrule86]

20. Why support a...

pro-choice candidate for mayor...while ignoring national elections that could take back the house. It is personal for me...I had a miscarriage in Georgia and was rushed to the hospital where I was place in a room by myself bleeding profusely and unconscious while my pro-life doctor waited for 'proof' the fetus was gone...an ultrasound had clearly shown this previously. My husband was traveling and arrived at the hospital just in time to save my life. My dear husband fired the doctor, and a young intern/resident saved my life...I needed a complete transfusion and had to be tested for hep C and aids for years...still can't give blood. I became infertile. I had gone to the doctor's office that morning and told the nurse I felt something was very wrong...she said the doctor would not even see me until blood work came back...I was always wishy washy on abortion as I had miscarried before in New York where you had a simple D&C and it was done. I was fortunate enough to have children already, but you always want another when you miscarry...After this pro-life doctor was fine with allowing me to die for his fanatical pro-life ideology, I understood why abortion is a health care issue...and that women will die without that right...and while I might vote for a pro-life Dem if they were the only choice (Tim Ryan evolved on this issue), I say now I will not vote for anyone who supports this pro-life guy period. This is not a case of holding your nose and voting for the Democrat...this is actively supporting a pro-life candidate ...I find it appalling. As far as I am concerned, it amount to throwing women under the bus and is a betrayal of progressive values.

[Adrahil]

13. I am "personally" pro-life and politically pro-choice.

I suspect a lot of Democrats are. To me, an elective abortion should be avoided whenever possible. But I also recognize it's not my call.

But I've been told here before that PERSONALLY opposing abortion makes me the enemy. Go figure.

I ABSOLUTELY support pro-choice political positions and candidates.

[boston bean]

16. That is not the case. What is the case is Mr. Mellow is not a pro choice candidate.

He is the EXACT opposite.

Tim Kaine was 100% pro choice politically. No matter how that politico article tries to make it seem.

[Adrahil]

17. Oh I know... just making a comment about Kaine, really...

As I understand, he personally opposes abortion, but support pro-choice policies.

[Stellar]

5. You've got that right!!!

and I mean every word that boston bean said!

[BumRushDaShow]

8. The uneducated, racist, bigoted, mysogynistic white male's last hurrah.

supported apparently by some who claim allegiance to the party without being a member of it.

"His" hegemony or nothing at all is the dog whistle.

[Kentonio]

15. Just remind me..

Did you post a thread like this about Manchin or Heitkamp when they said they'd approve Gorsuch for the Supreme Court? Or does your anger only come out when its a mayoral race rather than a decision that could affect womens basic human rights nationally for decades to come?

[boston bean]

19. I wasn't aware that my credentials for advocacy for womens rights were to be questioned by some dude

on DU.

[Kentonio]

21. Was that a Bernie Sanders quote?